Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs


 *   Good morning everyone


 *   good morning ;)


 *   Or afternoon to those of you on the other side of the Atlantic.


 *   I have a few topics for today: the Lima sprint; the small deployment guide; LiveUSB


 *   Are there other things people want to add?


 * erikos can only listen sporadically, since he has another meeting next door


 *   nope i have only some comments but nothing further to add.


 *   Shall we start with the Lima sprint?


 *   yes.


 *   I spoke with Hernan last night. (I don't know if he can join us today)


 *   He said he could arrange a meeting room with internet access at the university.


 *   He may also be able to arrange some lodging


 *   We need to get back to him regarding dates and numbers


 *   (I still haven't looked into changing my flight--I better to that)


 *   ok..i have his gmail contact..


 *   which time do you have your flight?


 *   time/date


 *   Presently, I am not scheduled to arrive in Lima until mid-week.


 *   so like 23th october?


 *   11PM on the 21st.


 *   ok..i'll make arrangements to book my flight to that also.


 *   I'd like to switch it to arriving Sunday night, the 19th, so we can use M/T to work


 *   that date.


 *   M/T ?


 *   There is a 3-day conference at the university beginning on Wednesday that I need to attend.


 *   So I though we could get started on Monday.


 *   yes the game jam!


 * andresambrois (n=aa@r190-135-183-150.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #sugar-meeting


 *   The game jam and a FOSS meeting as well.


 *   i've spoked to samuel. and olpc has offer to refund my tickets.


 *   Great.


 *   Will you be traveling from Colombia?


 *   Maybe they could sponsor Yama too?


 *   yes.


 *   I think he could come if someone could take care of his travel.


 *   olpc is going to sponsor also sebastian silva from chile.


 *   Great. All for the game jam too?


 *   yeah!


 *   i don't know yama.


 *   i'll have to ask


 *   So it sounds like 5-6 people for the book jam?


 *   Yama is in Bolivia.


 *   ok.


 *   yes like 5-6 people.


 *   I'll let Hernan know and I'll try to move my ticket to fly on Sunday.


 *   I'll ask Hernan to recommend lodging.


 *   ok i can do that also.


 *   fine..copy me on that if you can.


 *   so we have to divide time between the jam/conf and the book sprint..


 *   Maybe you and I can spend a few minutes with the flossmanual translation tools before hand


 *   yeah that would be ok.


 *   Adam Hyde may be able to walk us through the process.


 *   perfect


 *   I'll ping Adam and ask when a good time to do it would be.


 *   nice.


 *   do you know if other besides olpc can sponsor yama to come to Peru?


 *   Also, we should see if we can recruit a few locals to participate.


 *   I'm working on raising money for such things, but I don't have any yet.


 *   Morning all.


 *   i have received some mails from local devs, so i guess they'll join us also.


 *   cjb: morning


 *   walter: ok


 *   I'll also ping Carla to see if she may be able to join us. (She couldn't attend today's meeting as she is in the air)


 *   i can contact claudia urrea..to meet us next time, she is in the learning team also.


 *   Claudia is running a workshop in Venezuela this month, I think. But for Schlumberger, not OLPC.


 *   But it would be great if she could join us too.


 *   ok.


 *   So maybe I should ask Hernan for a room big enough for 10 people.


 *   that seems fine to me. i guess the uni will have one to suit our needs.


 *   any more issues related to the peru conf?


 *   Not that I can think of. I've written to Adam to see if there are any issues re the tools.


 * aa has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))


 *   We could try to do some prep work if people have time--generating some screen shots, etc.


 *   yeah that's fine.


 *   My second topic is more of a question: how do we light a fire under the small deployment guide?


 *   walter: i've pinged the educators and some pedagogical institutions about that..


 *   It was very clear from the Open Minds conference I attended that lots of people are interested in Sugar (and OLPC), but they don't know how to get stated.


 *   but not much of retroalimentation yet.


 *   A simple step-by-step guide would be of great utility.


 *   I am going to try to walk a Boston public school through the process of converting a computer lab using USB keys.


 *   I'll try to document the process in detail.


 *   but why can't they get started?..or what were their issues regarding to that?.


 *   I really believe making that as easy and painless as possible is key to their willingness to try the more ambitious deployments of laptops.


 *   regarding live usb's that would be of great help..


 *   The laptop deployment is easier, because everything is prepackaged and in a known state.


 *   the random computer lab with a random configuration of hardware, software, and network is probably impossible


 *   but we'll give it a try--because the teachers are willing to take such a risk.


 *   in a workshop we had in colombia the situation was solved working with live cds..


 *   but the Live USB situation is anything but stable yet.


 *   yeah, i guess we need to put more work into that.


 *   LiveCD is great for a demo or a workshop, but not a real trial, unless there is some trick to saving user data


 *   DId you use the Ubuntu LiveCD? With the old Sugar bits?


 *   yeah that's the problem ..


 *   yes..


 *   IIRC


 *   The Boston trial is interesting because they want the kids to run Sugar at home too.


 *   The same USB key would move the data back and forth and they are very excited about having a jabber connection for the kids at home.


 *   wow..that's cool we can extract info of great value there.


 *   But we are still not quite there in terms of packaging. I think we'll need to do a lot of fine-tuning, which we can document and hopefully learn from.


 *   ok...i'm going to take a note of that ;).


 *   i've done a little work on debian packaging but there is a lot of work to do in that field.


 *   but back into the small deployment discussion..


 *   One important thing to capture are all the roadblocks people are experiencing so that we can begin to address them.


 *   i'm expecting some retroalimentation about the work that has been happening in the field in Colombia by a pedagogical foundation.


 *   I've heard many, but haven't done a good job of writing them down.


 *   i'm expecting that educators can help on that...but i think that they are not to much adjusted to wikis and irc maybe?


 *   Some of it is pedagogical, but most is bureaucratic.


 *   Yes. We need the educators' input.
 *   bureaucratic in what sense?.


 *   Not wanting to change anything on the computers they already have...


 *   ah..ok.


 *   that's bad.


 *   It is what makes LiveUSB so attractive. But it is an imperfect solution.


 *   yes, so far.


 * andresambrois is now known as aa


 *   so we need to put work into that ;).


 *   Greg and the Fedora team is making some progress and I think Morgan is back on the case with Ubuntu...


 *   cool.


 *   so..a conclusion of the meeting could be that we have to wait and keep on trying for a better feedback?.


 *   While we are waiting, we should be gathering data regarding potential pitfalls.


 *   yeah..


 *   one pitfall is that lack of understanding of communication tools..


 *   for example IRC and wikis.


 *   so we can start from that.


 *   i'll put some notes on the small deployment page related to that


 *   OK.


 *   Anything else for today?


 *   You had some comments?


 *   and i'll keep on pinging about feedback...and some more deeply involved besides OLPC-sur


 *   one positive thing is that we are seeing more involvement on the OLPC-sur mailist related to teachers..so that's good.


 *   Yes. OLPC-Sur has been a great resource.


 *   we will see...i think we need more time to socialize ideas and communication.


 *   but a key subject is that the educators need to use some other resources to share their ideas.


 *   more conferences like openmind are needed!


 *   that's all :).


 *   OK. I did hear back from Adam and he can help us get started. Also, I just got my flight switched to the 20th.


 *   I mean the 19th.


 *   i'll book my flight to 19th also, then.


 *   I'll let Hernan know and be back in touch about the Lima details.


 *   walter: great thanks.


 *   OK. Talk to you all later.


 *   bye all.