Oversight Board/2008/Log-2008-10-31


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 *   'morning greg
 * <_bernie> morning
 *   ciao Bernardo
 *   hi all!


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 *  hi _bernie


 * gregdek hullos.
 *   hi. Marco won't be joining us, but I think David is going to be here.
 *   Any word from Chris?
 * <_bernie> cjb: ping


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 *  Good morning all
 *   I think we have a quorum. Let's get started, as I have a hard 15UTC deadline today.
 *   I posted a few items on the wiki...
 *   I think everyone saw the email from Karen re SFC?
 *   We still are not listed on their site, but we are officially official now.
 *   yup, was nice to read
 *  Yes! that is good news
 *   Sorry for the delay getting us there. :/
 *   I set up a stub for donation on the wiki... We have a few other odds and ends to take care of...
 *   @gregdek: NP
 *   Bernie, how do we set up new aliases on sugarlabs?
 *   We need to set up an alias for our correspondence with the SFC.
 *  walter, you have admin rights for setting up email at start.sugarlabs.org
 *   walter: for people like me - it would be good to send a reminder to the list - i would have forgotten :)
 *   @erikos: did you subscribe to the calendar...


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 * <_bernie> walter: go to mail.sugarlabs.org, you should have an account
 *   walter: oh i don't use gmail :/
 *   there is an ical version too
 *   shall the sfc email go to slobs?
 * <_bernie> erikos: I think you don't need gmail... it's a caldav thing that works with any calendar app
 *   walter: ok i guess i will just add it to my old-school calendar then - don't worry
 *  That sounds reasonable
 *   yeah, sending to slobs sounds good
 *   _bernie: i don't use any digital one :)
 *   tomeu: me not on slobs
 *   david, have you heard back from karen re your list?
 *  walter no not yet.
 *   erikos: no, we are talking about an address to where SFC will send email when need anything from sugarlabs
 *   tomeu: oh sorry :p
 * <_bernie> erikos: (me neither)
 *   I think there is no harm in everyone on the oversight board getting that email.
 *   as long as it's not totally public, I think we are good
 *   David: maybe we should plan to call Karen next week?
 *   Let me know what works for you.
 *  That sounds good. Any time you set up should be good for me
 *   Bernie, Seth and I were discussing membership.
 *   I think the threshold for membership should be to ask a question...
 *   even "how do I become a member?"
 *   I don't think this would be an issue.
 * <_bernie> walter: I agree to a low barrier membership policy
 *   me too
 *  At this point I was waiting for feedback from SFC about the ICA before raising the issue
 * <_bernie> some FOSS projects require the applicants to go on "trial" and show their past contribution as evidence
 *   Yeah. But we should go into the conversation with the SFC with a position we are targeting.
 * <_bernie> to become a fedora sponsor, I had to say what packages and reviews I made
 *  Ok
 *   There was an interesting PHD thesis I read about the other types of contributions, e.g., documentation, testing, support, that are vital parts of the community in FLOSS
 *  I restart working on guidelines this week
 *   OK.
 *  Yes the non-traditional nature of Sugar Labs will be interesting
 *   Anything else re SFC? I am waiting to hear back re Google Checkout and Paypal.
 *  just the pending trademark discussion
 *   Yeah. Now that we have a logo.
 *  also we need to start looking into partner organization and local support organizations
 *  a discussion with SFC on these issues would be helpful
 *   Yes. Colombia is not the only instance.


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 *   Peru is interested. Pakistan is interested.
 *  very nice
 *   in establishing local partners of sugarlabs?
 *   yes.
 * <_bernie> seth seems to be willing to fill the gap for the learning^2 foundation
 *  we are interested in formally partnering with organization like solutions grove and resara
 * <_bernie> he wants to develop content
 *   I am working on this with USMP in Peru and with a team in Pakistan
 *   walter: sounds good, those local organizations would also take care of local deployments?
 *   @dfarning_: yes... a different sort of partnership.
 *   @tomeu: exactly the point
 *   walter: have you already prospected linux user groups, etc?
 *   and developing new features driven by local needs.
 *   I met with the Ubuntu group in Lima. There will be lots of Ubuntu folks in Boston in the coming weeks... we should plan to connect with them during SugarCamp
 *   I don't know the Pakistan community very well yet.
 *   But Rafael is driving the Colombia effort...
 * <dfarning_> Structurally, the local support will be likely be organized as 'Sugar Labs - Region'
 *   walter: which SugarCamp - in Paris ?
 *   erikos: SugarCamp in Boston__what was to have been XOCamp.
 * <dfarning_> this will allow them to leverage the Sugar Labs name and avoid the headaches of setting up their own foundations
 *   Yes
 *   erikos: scott proposed this: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp_proposal
 *   walter: ok so you guys will meet with tomeu and marco basically


 * _bernie thinks that rafael rocks
 *   erikos: well, sugarcamp is a set of technical talks
 *   I think people like Michael and Scott and others will be there too.
 *   yeah, dirakx++
 *   tomeu: ok i see now
 *   I personally think we'll have enough non-technical stuff to do at boston, but well...
 *   I will be in Europe from the 12th to the 19th, so I'll only partial overlap.
 *   And I will probably be back in Europe again around the 1st of December.
 *   walter: right i remembered that - we should coordinate maybe i can join at some place
 *   I have interest from Telecom Italia, BT, and a new Nokia lead all to follow up on as well.
 *   @erikos: I'll be in Dusseldorf, Balzano, and Tampere.
 *   walter: oh, so you are going to paris on the 15th?
 *   I cannot get to Paris on the 15th. I will try to get there on the 1st
 *   I see
 *   Maybe Simon can go?
 *   was interesting to hear about mandriva in the codecamp
 *   i will check a bit dates and see what makes sense
 *   There has been great movement in all the distros... Fedora leading the way for Ubuntu, Gentoo, Debian, etc.
 * <_bernie> tomeu, erikos: someone should make proposals of simple tasks for the upcoming codecamp in Paris
 * <dfarning_> There is also a netbook conference in paris that mandriva has invited us to
 * <_bernie> tomeu, erikos: anything that a team of novices could complete in one day
 *   Yes. That is on the 1st, I believe.
 * <_bernie> janitorial tasks are ok if not too boring
 *   _bernie: yup - on my list of tasks
 *   Maybe we should segway to events?
 *   yeah, the sugar fedora spin rocks
 * <_bernie> Bastien expects to have 5 developers willing and capable to contribute to sugar.
 *   segway?
 *   _bernie: a pity 0.83 is unstable, we added some new hooks to sugar that makes easier to write extensions
 * <dfarning_> tomeu, smart person talk for 'goto'
 *   aha ;)
 *   I though it was a two-wheel electronic scooter...
 *   http://www.segway.com/
 *   would be very good to establish some presence between paris and belgium, there's a lot of FOSS movement there
 *   yeah, the prague center is full of tourists killing pidgeons on that


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 * _bernie doesn't have the latest adobe flash player
 * _bernie is a fundamentalist
 * <_bernie> tomeu: one important point when we approach new FOSS groups is to have a TODO list of tasks we'd like to get done
 *   what's about trac?
 *   _bernie: me the same :)
 * <_bernie> tomeu: and a simple procedure to get started
 *   Anything we need to discuss re SugarCamp? Does everyone have a place to stay who is coming?
 *   _bernie: agreed, we have done some, but didn't had much luck
 * <_bernie> tomeu: mentoring is very important I think
 *   _bernie: but we should keep trying
 *   tomeu: jumped over ?
 * <_bernie> tomeu: yeah even if only 1 out of 10 becomes a regular contributor, it might be worth the effort.
 *   Bernie and I pledged to deal with the outstanding infrastructure issues by the end of next week.
 * <dfarning_> I do not yet have a place to stay
 *   walter: marco and me are still undecided where to stay, would be good if a local said which of the available options makes more sense
 *   about trac - i heard from marco that there are efforts for the trac and git hosting - what is the status here?
 *   _bernie: totally, 1 of 10 would be very good
 * <dfarning_> OSL has our vm up and running
 *   @dfarning: You can stay at my place for the later have of the week...
 * <dfarning_> git should come online today or monday
 *   dfarning_: yeah!!!
 *   nice ;)
 *   dfarning_: thanks so much for these efforts - this will be a huge step!
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: cool! I've been falling behind on my email yesterday but I've seen there was some activity
 *   @tomeu: my house is a bit of a hike: about an hour by public transportation... 45 minutes by bicycle...
 *   Did you guys see the GCompris email today from Bruno?
 * <dfarning_> trac a few day later - there are some version issues between cenos5.2 and recent trac packages
 *   We need to host activities...
 *   walter: yeah, what can SL do about it? do we have enough bw?
 * <_bernie> as for our second server, olpc might have hardware to offer, according to hhardy.
 *   We have the same b'width as OLPC--we are on the MIT network.
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: do you think we can reach the SFC admins on irc or jabber?
 *   walter: so would be easier to host the gcompris activities?
 * <_bernie> communication between me and them has been a bit sloppy
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: they keep replying only to you! ;-)
 * <dfarning_> walter: what would be involved in hosting activities
 *   I don't see why we don't offer to host activities, once we have the server set up.
 * <dfarning_> _bernie: you are now on the osl RT
 *   It is really just the git tree and a web page...
 * <_bernie> walter: no, what gcompris email?
 *   ok, so if 3TB is not too much, let's do it
 *   _bernie: bruno had to pull down the activities because too many kids were downloading them
 *   Bruno turned off downloads from Gcompris because he couldn't handle the load. He had requested OLPC hosting and never heard back.
 * <_bernie> we need to host them
 *   yup
 *   i think hosting activities would be very important
 *   +1.
 * <_bernie> erikos: me too
 *   so if we all agree, can someone create an user for bruno and make some place for him to upload the activities?
 * <dfarning_> Could we host them from downloads.sugarlabs.org I think that is on the sun machine ivan has access to
 * <_bernie> being an activity author is a natural first step to becoming a sugar contributor
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: yes
 *   and activities are what users really care about
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: only problem is that we don't have much space
 *   I suppose we can host the downloads without hosting the source (until we get git)
 * <_bernie> but it's ok for activities
 * <dfarning_> ok good, I promised OSL we would self host our resource hogs for now
 * <dfarning_> walter: git is coming very soon
 * <dfarning_> _bernie: do we need more hard drives for the sun machine?
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: not unless we want to host big downloads (such as isos)
 *   I think we want to the distros to host the ISOs.
 * <_bernie> ivan proposed to buy a usb disk enclosure and hook it to solarsail. crude, but cheap.
 *   @bernie: we have to go shopping next week...
 * <_bernie> gregdek: do you think we could get an account on people.redhat.com or similar to host large downloads?
 * <dfarning_> who would like to like handle the move to our own get server?
 * <_bernie> walter: lol
 * <dfarning_> s/get/git/
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: me... should be rather easy
 *   people.rh.c is already complaining about hosting the Fedora Sugar ISO. :/
 * <_bernie> dfarning_: but for now, let's just _add_ not move
 *   yes.
 *   dfarning_: think as _bernie
 *   dfarning_: we have some new stuff to host there
 *   moving will be very easy technically, as it's git
 * <dfarning_> tomeu: I will try to become one with bernie:)
 * <_bernie> and even when we move a project, git makes it easy to maintain two independent trees synchronized
 *   dfarning_: sorry, I meant I thought the same as _bernie ;)
 * <_bernie> "easy" is a relative term of course
 * <_bernie> nothing is easy in git ;-)
 *   _bernie: I think it's the only thing that git makes easy ;)
 *   I need to take off soon...
 *   Can I give a quick update re fundrasing?
 * <dfarning_> yes!
 * <_bernie> "git, designed to make forking easy -- and nothing else"
 *   We still have no money :)
 *   if our own git is up - i write a new activity only to have something new to host :)
 *   no money, no problems
 * <_bernie> I will move xaos
 *   erikos: write an activity day ;)
 *   But we have a modest travel budget from Pininfarina beginning next year.
 * <_bernie> we are poor but honest
 *   And I have submitted three more grant proposal yesterday (to the Knight Foundation)
 *   walter: nice, in what else are we partnering with pininfarina?
 *   walter: what company/org is this ?
 *   and one more going in today.
 * <_bernie> walter: wow
 * <_bernie> walter: do we get ferraris?
 * <_bernie> walter: Make sure I get a Testarossa
 *   _bernie: yeah saw the page and was wondering as well ;p
 *   Pininfarina designs jets too. And speed boats, so our travel woes are over!!
 * <dfarning_> I have also advocated the position that it is hard to make spending mistakes when one has no money
 *   but they also design toothbrushes...
 *   And maybe Sugar-enabled devices...
 * <_bernie> "meanwhile, the SLOBs are riding on their invisible jet to a their secret headquarters..."
 *   We just use our "transporter". Beam me up, Bernie.
 * <_bernie> "oops, I had the wrong version of libcompress.so... you're screwed"
 *   ok, we are going to be rich and famous soon, what else?
 *   Anyway, I'll be talking to several more funding agencies in the coming weeks. And I am starting to push on industry--for in kind support, i.e., engineers. Some interest from BT just yesterday.
 *   oh, nice
 *   I didn't write up much of a trip report yet from Peru--but lots of great stuff happening there.
 *   I'll try to get something written up this weekend: I have some data on how children are learning with Sugar
 *   dramatic numbers!
 * <_bernie> nice
 * <dfarning_> walter: in kind support will be very helpful - dependable engineering support - without us allowing ourselves to close ranks
 *   walter: looking forward to that
 *   In kind as important or more important than cash, in many cases.
 *   imho.
 *   Yeah. Bernie and I go to Resara on Monday...
 * <_bernie> When we have a moment, I'd like to introduce jkridner and aleph. They have been lurking on the channel for a while.
 *   @gregdek: the RH example being one :)
 *   wonder if we could get some of the .uy teachers in translating, aggreggating lesson plans, etc
 *   Where would we be without RH?
 *   sure, for manning, in kind is best
 * <_bernie> Jason Kridner is the FOSS lead at Texsas Instruments. They hosted our talk at ESC Boston
 *   _bernie: did you make new friends in the embedded world ? ;p
 *   The Peru team is doing great material too.
 *   And there is a translation project at IBM I am tapping into.
 *   Engish/Arabic only to start...
 * <_bernie> Stefano "aleph" Fedrigo has been helping out with the Sugar ->''' BB port, and before that he helped me with my X11 work at 1cc
 *   walter: any progress in getting more teachers from peru in olpc-sur?
 *   Well. I need to go. Can someone transcribe the notes after this point in the wiki?
 *   @tomeu: yes. More Peru engagement for one...
 *   hi jkridner|work, aleph_6510
 *   Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes/Log-2008-10-31
 *   welcome jkridner|work, aleph_6510
 *  	walter: I can take care of that, will be around for at least one more half an hour
 * <_bernie>	Walter and Jason had incompatible schedules this week so they couldn't meet in person
 *  	@tomeu: I'll take care of the formating later...
 *  	TI/BB may be interesting for deployers of Sugar interested in crafting their own devices
 *  	ciao
 *  	fine, see you
 * <_bernie>	(jason was on a phone call a few minutes ago... might still be busy)
 * <_bernie>	uh, are we finished already?
 * <_bernie>	;-)
 *  	well, I wanted to hear about the BugSquad
 * <dfarning_>	tomeu: yes the TI relationship is premised on embedded developers and designers building embedded devices running sugar
 *  	as it's in the agenda...
 * <_bernie>	I have time
 * <_bernie>	dfarning_: that's my expectation too.
 *  	the XO hardware is very sweet, but there must be ways of improving it ;)
 * <_bernie>	dfarning_: the chip maker reference designs often turn into dozens of products from different companies in the same industry.
 *  	tomeu: i have not kept up with the bugsquad lately
 * <aleph_6510>	hello all! Nice to meet you :-)
 * <_bernie>	and clearly soon or later we'll see a generation of non-x86 ultraportables
 *  	tomeu: maybe with the new development release we have something to test and i can coordinate and update a bit
 *  	erikos: maybe later in the cycle, and once we have trac
 * <dfarning_>	hey aleph_6510 thanks for helping _bernie on the beagle board
 * <_bernie>	aleph_6510: thanks for all your help
 *  	erikos: wonder if there are people interested in packaging 0.83.1 in distros
 *  	_bernie, aleph_6510: how well does sugar run on it?
 * <_bernie>	tomeu: we already have that in fedora right? I'm just a fedora developer...
 *  	_bernie: no 0.83 packages yet in fedora, but we could do
 * <_bernie>	perhaps I should find the time and use this opportunity to learn packaging for debian/ubuntu
 *  	_bernie: would be nice to update sugar on joyride
 *  	_bernie: the problem is that this requires NM 0.7
 *  	tomeu: yeah was just thinking about the packing issue as well
 *  	_bernie: and joyride is now F9+NM 0.6
 * <_bernie>	tomeu: ok I'll talk with cscott about it
 *  	tomeu: NM is ready soon
 * <_bernie>	tomeu: I'm sure we can coordinate this
 *  	_bernie: nice, I can help with sugar rpms
 * <_bernie>	F9 normally would come with NM 0.7... we downgraded it because sugar was not yet ready
 *  	oh, ok
 * <dfarning_>	_bernie: Jonas is keeping up with the debian packages he is smart but quirky
 *  	_bernie: I actually tried to install NM 0.7 in joyride, but didn't managed to get it to work
 * <dfarning_>	The SugarTeam at ubuntu has recently gotten up to spead
 * <aleph_6510>	dfarning_: I think Sugar is a wonderful project... I look forward contribute someway
 * <_bernie>	aleph_6510: when you have time, we have bugs
 * <dfarning_>	aleph_6510: we also look forward to your help:)
 * <_bernie>	or missing features
 * <aleph_6510>	Nice, I'm good at debugging ;-)
 *  	aleph_6510: what are your interests? we can think something fun and useful
 * <jkridner|work>	hi tomeu, erikos
 * <jkridner|work>	nice to meet you all.
 * '''*	jkridner|work was on a phone call earlier.
 * <dfarning_>	jkridner|work: how did you feel that the sugar on beagleboard talk went?
 * <jkridner|work>	I think it was quite interesting, but needed more activities loaded on the card to get people familiar with Sugar.
 * <jkridner|work>	It was certainly able to reach a few people in the audience who had a lot of interest and cornered Bernie after the talk.
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: low level and system stuff. I'm very proficient with C/C++, but a beginner in python. Anyway I could take the chance to learn something of it
 * <jkridner|work>	others were confused how education and embedded systems overlapped.
 * <dfarning_>	I have jumped on a education thread on the beagleboard to try gathering support
 * <jkridner|work>	most people were very interested in playing with the interface, but were stymied by not having activities installed and no net/serial connection as the lab was setup.
 *  	jkridner|work: was mentioned the possibility of doing custom UIs similar to Sugar for non-educational stuff?
 * <jkridner|work>	that is a very interesting area to me.
 * <jkridner|work>	of course, non-educational stuff is still educational stuff too. :)
 *  	aleph_6510: from the links in Goals, you can see what we are up to in this release: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap/0.84#Goals
 *  	everything is educational! :p
 *  	jkridner|work: yeah - people should not separate these things too much
 * <jkridner|work>	things like block diagram building are very interesting for embedded systems...
 * <dfarning_>	There is a team at the uw madison that is working on using sugar as the interface for medical devices
 * <jkridner|work>	and makes a nice UI for connecting digital signal processing blocks.
 * <jkridner|work>	embedded devices should be more programmable and I think sugar can help with that.
 * <jkridner|work>	some people made the connection, so I see that as a success.
 * <jkridner|work>	most didn't, so I see that as room for improvement.
 *  	dfarning_: wow
 *  	yeah the seed is spread - now we wait to let it grow
 *  	dfarning_: what would they want to use it for exactly - is there a page or something?
 *  	when universities in peru, uruguay, etc start to get involved in sugar development because their kids are using it, sugar may catch interest in the robotics department, etc
 * <dfarning_>	tomeu: It is still in the proposal phase but the have the guy who invented the algorithm for the EKG machine in their corner
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: there is a lot of interesting stuff to work on
 *  	dfarning_: sounds promising
 *  	aleph_6510: we are few people, even if there's a name attached to it, you can probably take it up
 *  	aleph_6510: do you have an XO?
 * <jkridner|work>	eToys is my favorite Sugar application and seems perfect for robotics and many signal processing apps.
 * '''*	jkridner|work has an XO, but broke it somehow and now needs to learn to fix it.
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: yes, I do, a B4
 *  	aleph_6510: if so, you could work in performance and memory usage, for example
 *  	aleph_6510: for direct coordination - you can jump into #sugar, use the ml - or we have as well a weekly developers meeting http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Meetings
 *  	jkridner|work: a kid could do fix it for you ;)
 *  	jkridner|work: yeah, watched some video about how graphical objects where hooked up to some source event from hw
 *  	quite cool
 * <jkridner|work>	tomeu: don't have any of those handy. :)
 *  	jkridner|work: bertf is our etoys hacker, he uses to be in #sugar
 * <dfarning_>	jkridner|work: I still have the personal goal of seeing sugar on TI server as a controller for lego mindstorms
 * <jkridner|work>	dfarning_: that is a shared goal then. :)
 * <jkridner|work>	dfarning_: have you looked much at the NI tools/UI?
 * <dfarning_>	jkridner|work: any chance that you will be in the boston some time from Nov 15-23? we are having a physical meeting
 * <jkridner|work>	almost no chance. my office is cutting back on travel thanks to the current US economic state.
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: I could look into it... are there performance problems that are not strictly python dependent?
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: I have a beagleboard too... very useful to check for memory usage :-)
 *  	aleph_6510: how much it has? 128?
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: yes, 128
 *  	aleph_6510: we suspect graphics performance is not as nice as it could be
 * <dfarning_>	jkridner|work: as to Ni tools/UI, no I am mostly working on foundation administartive stuff so the developer can focus on developing
 *  	aleph_6510: you can see for example when scrolling in Browse
 *  	dfarning_: and that's very reassuring!
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: I somewhat looked into Xorg graphics performance on XO months ago, with Bernie
 * <jkridner|work>	well, I think that Lego is doing quite a bit with NI (http://www.ni.com/academic/mindstorms/story.htm).
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: but I'm not up to date with latest developments
 *  	aleph_6510: _bernie talked about last X.org updates being even slower than the older ones
 *  	might be worth looking at that
 * <dfarning_>	jkridner|work: thanks for that
 * <_bernie>	tomeu: when is the sugarlabs meeting in boston?
 * <_bernie>	do we have exact dates?
 * <aleph_6510>	tomeu: so we haven't a specific culprit for bad graphics performance yet?
 * <dfarning_>	but I still have an emotional attachment to TI based on the speak and spell:)
 * <jkridner|work>	Lego seems to be very interested in graphical programming, but I'm sure there are problems that NI solves for Lego that Sugar Labs might struggle with being a non-profit based on open source software.
 *  	_bernie: not yet, but we should start planning
 * <_bernie>	aleph_6510: nobody measured
 * <_bernie>	we really should
 * <_bernie>	with oprofile possibly
 *  	aleph_6510: not that I know of
 * <_bernie>	possibly comparing the previous build with the current one
 *  	aleph_6510: probably some interaction between the driver and something up in the stack like cairo?
 * <aleph_6510>	_bernie: yes! I'm starting to remember :-) I was commited to fix oprofile to have callbacks reports
 * <dfarning_>	Well, thanks for everythink. I've got to go poke at OSL about git and trac.
 * <dfarning_>	Well, thanks for everythink. I've got to go poke at OSL about git and trac.