User:Inkyfingers/Debian

Is this a bug or is it me?

I have seen this behaviour several times in Debian, I now have it reproduceable in two instances. Previous instances have been fixed or ameliorated by adding further packages in a haphazard way till the problem is eliminated.

These two instances have in common that Debian installer has not been used.

Similar behaviour (different cause - GTK3) is described with a fix here: Community/Distributions/Debian

As this seems to me to be a hurdle to Debian users, I am asking for help in resolving:

Definition of Bug / problem
One variant of Sugar launches with errors, while trying another variant in the same environment results in invisible icons,'''

''Is this a symptom of either, partially installed, or partially accessible libraries. If so which libraries and why?''

Instance 1.
The login manager is SLiM and desktop environment Openbox. A fresh install of Debian Squeeze with Sugar installed from Debian repos, via Synaptic, sugar-0.88, sugar-session-0.88, and sucrose-0.88

Aptitude reports no problems.

This, from Sugar environment:


 * About my computer:
 * Build: Debian 6.0.5
 * Sugar: 0.88.1

95% working, sugar-emulator:

Views: F1 to F4 work, no F5 + F6.

To display frame requires impossibly accurate positioning of cursor in corner, or Frame, Activation-Delay, Edge-to-instantaneous in settings. All tested Activities have worked except Turtle Art, Etoys and Write.
 * This is a fresh install - I am (fairly) confident all Activities could be got working eventually - this is not the issue.

Less working, sugar-session:

No F1, F2, F4.

F3 view is available.

F3 top bar: No icons, but text-in-box replaces expected icons, indicates Favorite and List Views; will switch views.

A screen shot cannot be taken.Pressing Alt changes the screen (in a manner similar to "reverse selection")

Cursor and central avatar are invisible. The photo shows an invisible cursor hovering on invisible central avatar revealing working, non-sugarised buttons.



Many other text-on-hover are visible, non-sugarised.

Mostly, any-one-activity will start. A non-Sugar cursor is now present.

Many text-box-to-replace-icons are invisible or show black-on-very-dark-grey. Several Activities tested, within limitations of above, the Activity starts to function. "Activity title" may not be edited. Clicking on stop icon causes sugar-session to hang. Cannot restore session, but in console killall python, closes the session without further error.

Things I checked: ~$ python -V => Python 2.6.6 librsvg2-2 is already the newest version. python-gobject is already the newest version.

lxappearance is already the newest version.
 * Three above report: set to manually installed.

Instance 2.
There is no login manager (startx) desktop is LXDE. A new install of sweets on a Raspberry pi OS: a Debian clone, rpi_pisces Hard Float (armhf), testing, image from http://www.raspbian.org/PiscesImages

Aptitude reports no problems.

This, from Sugar environment:


 * About my computer:
 * Build: Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable
 * Sugar: 0.94.1

Reference known bugs from Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets

1. 23644010 "Fixed"

I am using python 2.7 - said to be "Fixed in version hippo-canvas/0.3.1-1.1"

2. "Polkit authentication doesn't work with xdm display manager, use gdm3, at least, instead."

I have no display manager so I installed Package: gir1.2-polkit-1.0 ~$: sudo apt-get install gir1.2-polkit-1.0 and this eliminated many errors looking like: -- PackageKit install failed: Failed to obtain authentication. (not-authorized) However I do not yet know if this is an adequate solution for Polkit authentication.

70% successful launch command: ~$: sweets sdk/sugar:emulator I have a 70% working result, but without good two-way communication with source.

There are notes on this partially successful, unfinished job here:Talk:Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Advanced Topics

while much less successful launch command: ~$: sweets sdk/sugar:run Produces all the symptoms mentioned in first instance, only worse.