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User talk:Ndoiron

2009-09-18T16:57:08Z

Dennis Daniels:

Greetings. I did a quick review of the map activity here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMtQIqdfQ

[[User:Dennis Daniels|Dennis Daniels]] 15:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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I'm running Sugar on emulation mode under Ubuntu904. The page sizing is a problem with other OLPC spec. activities as well so you're not alone. :) [[User:Dennis Daniels|Dennis Daniels]] 16:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T16:39:56Z

Dennis Daniels:

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
**fix is to restart Sugar... :(
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*That every open source developer make more screencasts
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===write===
*new icons don't say much about their functionality
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved? v67 no joy
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking recordmydesktop think learn read explore guided_instruction

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T16:38:49Z

Dennis Daniels: /* activities */ TA no html save

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
**fix is to restart Sugar... :(
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*That every open source developer make more screencasts
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===write===
*new icons don't say much about their functionality
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved? v67 no joy
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking recordmydesktop

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T16:33:23Z

Dennis Daniels: /* general */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
**fix is to restart Sugar... :(
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*That every open source developer make more screencasts
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking recordmydesktop

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T16:02:45Z

Dennis Daniels:

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*That every open source developer make more screencasts
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking recordmydesktop

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T16:01:11Z

Dennis Daniels: /* general */ **In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T15:49:12Z

Dennis Daniels: *sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

Activities/Turtle Art-0.86

2009-09-18T15:45:05Z

Dennis Daniels: /* Where to get Turtle Art */ Version 67]

<noinclude>{{Translations | [[Activities/Turtle Art|english]] | [[Activities/Turtle Art/lang-es|español]] |}}</noinclude>
<noinclude>{{GoogleTrans-en}}</noinclude>
{{TOCright}}
==Where to get Turtle Art==

[[Image:Activity-turtleart.png]]

Turtle Art is a [[Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities|fructose module]], so it is included as part of the standard Sugar (sucrose) distribution.

[http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 Version 67] | [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 addons] | [http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/turtleart Source] | [http://en.flossmanuals.net/turtleart FLOSS Manual] | [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TurtleArt laptop.org Turtle Art page] | [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Turtle_Art_student_guide Student Guide] | [http://www.reducativa.com/wiki/index.php?title=Proyecto_OLPC_-_Plan_Ceibal#Turtle_Art activity guides (es)] [http://ceibalpuertosauce.blogspot.com/2009/06/tortugarte.html mas TortugaArte] | [[Activities/TAExperimental|Experimental fork]] | [http://www.turtleart.org/ Turtle Art Gallery] | [[0.86/Turtle Art|0.86 release notes]] | [http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs/video/15708788 Introductory video]

'''Note:''' The first time you run Turtle Art, it takes about 60 seconds to load. You'll see a mostly blank screen after the initial flashing of the icon. Subsequently, the loading time is ~5 seconds (on an OLPC-XO-1 laptop).
=== i18n ===

Turtle Art currently has support for: de, el, en, es, fi, fr, it, mn, nl, pt, ru, sl, sv, ta, tr, vi, and zh_TW

(See [https://dev.laptop.org/translate/ our Pootle server] for details about how to translate Turtle Art into your language.)

==Background==

Turtle Art is an activity with a Logo-inspired graphical "turtle" that draws colorful art based on [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Scratch Scratch]-like snap-together visual programming elements.

Turtle Art is intended to be a stepping stone to the Logo programming language, but there are many restrictions compared to Logo. (Only numeric global variables and stack items are available, no lists or other data-structures. The conditionals and some of the functions only take constants or variables, not expressions. Limited screen real-estate makes building large programs unfeasible.) However, you can export your Turtle Art creations to [[#Exporting to Berkeley Logo|Berkeley Logo]]. The [[Activities/TAExperimental|experimental version of Turtle Art]] also has a (limited) facility for sensor input, so, for example, you can move the Turtle based upon sound volume or pitch.

A [[Activities/Turtle Art/Templates|portfolio feature]] lets you use Turtle Art to create multimedia slide shows from material retrieved from your Journal. The basic idea is to import images (and eventually movies, audio, and text files) into slide templates, not unlike Powerpoint, and then show a presentation by stepping through them. The portfolio includes the typical major functions of presentation software: an editor that allows text to be inserted and formatted (this is largely incomplete), a method for inserting images (from the Journal), and a slide-show system to display the content. What makes it a bit different than tools such as Powerpoint is that you can program your slides using Turtle Art blocks. Turtle Art also has an export-to-HTML function so that presentations can be viewed outside of the Sugar environment.

Turtle Art was written by Brian Silverman and is maintained by Walter Bender. Arjun Sarwal added the sensor features. Luis Michelena contributed to the "named" action and box blocks. Tony Forster has been the lead test engineer and has really [[#From_the_field|stretched the boundaries]] of Turtle Art.

===Learning with Turtle Art===

Play with Turtle Art to draw colorful art patterns using a turtle that accepts instructions for movement.

With visual programming blocks, you can snap together programs by compiling (combining) them in ways to create anything you can imagine.

[[Image:TA-sample1.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample2.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample3.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample4.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample5.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample6.png|400px]]

====maths====
A clock activity

[[Image:TAclock1.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock2.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock3.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock4.png|400px]]

Calculating the hypotenuse and approximating the angle of a right triangle; Stepping through the program is a nice way to visualize the process of approximation; The final result of the approximation.

[[Image:TAgeometry.png|400px]] [[Image:TAgeometry1.png|400px]] [[Image:TAgeometry2.png|400px]]

And on-the-fly function definitions:

[[Image:Ta-sin.png]] [[Image:Sine.png|300px]]

Tony Forster describes his "adventures" with on-the-fly definitions to create an [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fTmGyLerUL4/SY0URR-P7TI/AAAAAAAAAN4/XySQUPHmiME/s1600-h/clockface.jpg analog clock] in [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-insert-function-block-in.html his blog.]

Try any of the [http://docs.python.org/library/time.html time] or [http://docs.python.org/library/math.html math] library functions, e.g.,

localtime().tm_min

sin(x) + sin(pi/2)

====presentations====
[[Image:Portfolio14.png|400px]] [[Image:Portfolio10.png|400px]]

====games====
Turtle Art can be used to write games, such as a simple falling block game:

[[Image:WeGotGame.png|400px]] [[Image:WeGotGame2.png|400px]]

===Portfolios===

In the era of high-stakes testing, we have the means to measure “which child knows more”; these data tell us about relative merit of the school in which a child is enrolled. The Turtle Art portfolio feature is an assessment tool that shows “what a child knows”; children become the curators of their own work. They advance their own learning and help their teachers, parents, and school administrators understand better the depth and breadth of what they have learned.

A [http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/3668/electronic-portfolios-a-path-to-the-future-of-learning recent article] in the ''Chronicle of Higher Education'' claims:
# ePortfolios can integrate student learning in an expanded range of media, literacies, and viable intellectual work;
# ePortfolios enable students to link together diverse parts of their learning including the formal and informal curriculum;
# ePortfolios engage students with their learning;
# ePortfolios offer ''colleges'' a meaningful mechanism for accessing and organizing the evidence of student learning.

Turtle Art portfolios engage children in the process of reflecting on their work—what they have done, how they have done it, and how success these efforts have been—as they create a multimedia narrative to show their teachers, parents and peers what they have learned. Turtle Art Portfolio builds upon the journaling functionality of the Sugar learning platform, where every action or activity a child takes in the classroom is automatically recorded in a folder: (1) by enabling the child to select important learning achievements, be they in reading, writing, arithmetic, arts, music, physical education, history and social science, etc. Children answer questions such as “I chose this piece because...” (2) creating a multimedia narrative presentation from their selections (including audio voice-overs and video), reflective of the multiple ways in which children learn; and (3) sharing their presentation with classmates, both to celebrate what they have learned, but also to engage in a critical dialog about their work.

Turtle Art portfolio is innovative in three ways: (1) it builds upon a journal of *all* learning activities that is automatically collected; (2) it has unique programmability, fun and accessible to even the youngest elementary school children, but interesting and engaging to middle-school children as well; and (3) it has unique tools for both collaborating on the construction of the portfolio and its subsequent sharing with others.

Portfolios have been shown to be “a powerful means for children to assess their own work, set goals, and take responsibility for their future learning.” But portfolio assessment has seen limited applicability. It is a practical, engaging means to using portfolios. By building upon the automatic accumulation of work in journal (including a “screen capture” of their work) the portfolio process can readily be integrated into the classroom routine. Reflection becomes the norm: children are encouraged write in their journals (young children record audio notes) for a few minutes after *every* class. The numbing question, “what did you do in school today?” need no longer a necessary part of the parent-child dialog. Instead, the parent can talk to the child about actual artifacts.

Culling from the journal becomes part of the end-of-term assessment process. The process of telling one's story as a learning requires further reflection. At a “portfolio social”, parents are invited to view presentations and ask children about their learning; the child's voice is heard.

The classroom teacher can add addition assessment slides to the portfolio about themes such as work habits and personal growth, as part of an archive that travels with a child across grade levels. Through juxtaposition, the child and teacher can see what has changed over the course of the years, trends, and areas for improvement, Also, a classroom portfolio can be assembled as part of a teacher-assessment process.

Some additional background on ePortfolios can be found here:
* [http://ncepr.org/ Inter/National Coalition for ePortfolio Research]
* [http://epac.pbwiki.com/ ePortfolio Action & Communication – ePAC]
* [http://electronicportfolios.org/ Helen Barrett’s ePortfolio site]
* [http://www.igi-pub.com/reference/details.asp?ID=5072&v=preface Handbook of Research on ePortfolios]
* [http://www.epforum.eu/ EuroPortfolio]
* [http://www.eportfolio.lagcc.cuny.edu/conference/connections.html Making Connections National Resource Center]

==Getting Started==

[[Image:TA-1.png|400px]]

Start by clicking on (or dragging) blocks from the Turtle palette. Use multiple blocks to create drawings; as the turtle moves under your control, colorful lines are drawn.

You add blocks to your program by clicking on or dragging them from the palette to the main area. You can delete a block by dragging it back onto the palette. Click anywhere on a "stack" of blocks to start executing that stack or by clicking in the Rabbit (fast) or Turtle (slow) buttons on the Project Toolbar.
===tips===
Did you know that you can copy/paste stacks to/from the clipboard? You type Ctrl-C to copy whatever stack is under the cursor to the clipboard. Ctrl-V will paste from the clipboard onto whatever TA project you have open.

===Video Tutorials===
I know there are a few but they are not categorized on this page... we'll make that happen soon. Help would be appreciated.

* [http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pleabargain+sugar+turtle+art&search_type=&aq=o introductory videos here on Turtle Art]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa71j3_to-square-final-2 To Square—a tutorial by the Summer Spot youths at the Lilla G. Frederick Pilot Middle School]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHd6nEmXT34 A basic tutorial].
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9cpzd_turtleartportfoliobasics_creation a video of the portfolio basics]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9dsjf_hotcold-game_creation Get your hot cold Turtle Art Video here!]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9xz9o_stategame_tech Name that State!]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa7dle_shapes A Shapes and Colors Game]

===Project Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-Projecttoolbar2.png]]

From left to right: show/hide palette; show/hide blocks; run project fast; run project slow; stop project; erase canvas; full-screen mode

Keyboard short cuts for the above: Alt+ '''p'''alette; '''b'''locks; '''r'''un; '''w'''alk; '''s'''top; '''e'''rase; e.g., Alt+e will erase the screen.

Notes: The run buttons are tied to the [[#descriptions (6)|Start Block]]. If no Start Block is used, then all blocks are run when either run button is clicked. The "rabbit" button runs the blocks at maximum speed. The "turtle" button pauses and displays the turtle between each step.

===Save/Load Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-savetoolbar.png]]

Load sample project; Save to HTML; [[#Exporting to Berkeley Logo|Save to Logo]]; Save as an image; and [[#Programmable Brick|Programmable Brick]]

===Edit Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-edittoolbar.png]]

The Edit toolbar is used to copy stacks of blocks to the clipboard and to paste stacks from the clipboard. To copy a stack, place the cursor on any block in the stack and then type Ctrl-c. To paste a stack from the clipboard, type Ctrl-v.

===Activity Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-activitytoolbar.png]]

The standard Sugar Activity toolbar: activity name; [[#Sharing|share]]; keep; and stop

==Palettes==
There are seven palettes of program elements available for program construction: [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Turtle|Turtle movements]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Pen|Pen attributes]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Numbers|Numeric operators]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Sensors|Misc. functions]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Flow|Logical operators]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Blocks|Logical blocks]]; and [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Templates|Presentation blocks]]


[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Turtle http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/6/6d/TA-turtle-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Pen http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/8/81/TA-pen-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Numbers http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/46/TA-numbers-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Sensors http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/6/6c/TA-sensors-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Flow http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/a/ac/TA-flow-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Blocks http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/45/TA-myblocks-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Templates http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/5/51/TA-templates.png]




==Quick Tutorial on using the portfolio features==
[[Image:Portfolio1.png|thumb|left|Start by selecting a slide template from the palette.]]
[[Image:Portfolio2a.png|thumb|left|Click on the Journal icon to initiate a search for slide content.]]
[[Image:Portfolio3.png|thumb|left|Select a journal object.]]
[[Image:Journal1.png|thumb|left|The Journal preview and description will be used.]]
[[Image:Portfolio4.png|thumb|left|A thumbnail will appear in the template.]]
[[Image:Portfolio5.png|thumb|left|Click on the slide template to view the slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio6.png|thumb|left|Click on the Hide Blocks button on the toolbar to hide any blocks that are covering your slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio7.png|thumb|left|Congratulations. You've made a slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio8.png|thumb|left|Try using some of the other templates.]]
[[Image:Portfolio10.png|thumb|left|View them by clicking on them (you may want to use the Eraser button first).]]
[[Image:Portfolio11.png|thumb|left|You can program a simple slide show by making a stack: clear the screen; show Slide 1; wait; clear the screen; show Slide 2.]]
[[Image:Portfolio12.png|thumb|left|You can also program stacks for your slide decorations and slide transitions.]]
[[Image:Portfolio13.png|thumb|left|In this example, we draw a rule under the title of each slide and poll for keyboard input to transition between slides.]]
[[Image:Portfolio14.png|thumb|left|Run your slide show by clicking on the Run Button (rabbit) on the toolbar.]]
[[Image:Portfolio15.png|thumb|left|In this example, we use microphone input to transition between slides.]]
[[Image:Lock-block.png|thumb|left|Using "lock blocks" to extend long stacks.]]

<div class="visualClear"></div>

A video of the portfolio basics is available [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9cpzd_turtleartportfoliobasics_creation here].

==Sharing==

Turtle Art supports a simple sharing model. Whomever joins a shared activity will get a copy of the current state of the project from the initiator of the share. Subsequent changes to the project are shared between all participants. It is not recommended to share among more than 2–3 people at a time. Please note that if different versions of Turtle Art are used in the same share instance, there may be problems, as old versions won't know how to handle new bricks introduced in later versions.

[[Image:TAsharing.png|400px]]

==Exporting to Berkeley Logo==
Turtle Art can export its projects to [http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ Berkeley Logo] (using the Save as Logo button on the [[#Project Toolbar|Project Toolbar]])

[[Image:Taspin.png|thumb|left|a Turtle Art project]]
[[Image:UCB-Logo.png|thumb|left|the UCB Logo version]]
<div class="visualClear"></div>

'''Note:''' The project is saved to the Journal as "logosession.lg". UCB Logo does not yet access the Journal directly, so it is necessary to copy the project out of the Journal using the "copy-from-journal" command in the Terminal Activity and then accessing the project using the File menu within the UCB Logo Activity.

copy-from-journal logosession.lg

===Internals===
Some procedures for setting up the palette and the shade functionality:

to tasetpalette :i :r :g :b :myshade
make "s ((:myshade - 50) / 50)
ifelse lessp :s 0 [
make "s (1 + (:s *0.8))
make "r (:r * :s)
make "g (:g * :s)
make "b (:b * :s)
] [
make "s (:s * 0.9)
make "r (:r + ((100-:r) * :s))
make "g (:g + ((100-:g) * :s))
make "b (:b + ((100-:b) * :s))
]
setpalette :i (list :r :g :b)
end

to rgb :myi :mycolors :myshade
make "myr first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
make "myg first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
make "myb first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
tasetpalette :myi :myr :myg :myb :myshade
output :mycolors
end

to processcolor :mycolors :myshade
if emptyp :mycolors [stop]
make "i :i + 1
processcolor (rgb :i :mycolors :myshade) :myshade
end

to tasetshade :shade
make "myshade modulo :shade 200
if greaterp :myshade 99 [make "myshade (199-:myshade)]
make "i 7
make "mycolors :colors
processcolor :mycolors :myshade
end

to tasetpencolor :c
make "color modulo round :c 100
setpencolor :color + 8
end

make "colors [
100 0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45 0
100 50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95 0
100 100 0 90 100 0 80 100 0 70 100 0 60 100 0 50 100 0 40 100 0 30 100 0 20 100 0 10 100 0
0 100 0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45
0 100 50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95
0 100 100 0 95 100 0 90 100 0 85 100 0 80 100 0 75 100 0 70 100 0 65 100 0 60 100 0 55 100
0 50 100 0 45 100 0 40 100 0 35 100 0 30 100 0 25 100 0 20 100 0 15 100 0 10 100 0 5 100
0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45 0 100
50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95 0 100
100 0 100 100 0 90 100 0 80 100 0 70 100 0 60 100 0 50 100 0 40 100 0 30 100 0 20 100 0 10]
make "shade 50
tasetshade :shade

to tasetbackground :color :shade
tasetshade :shade
setbackground :color + 8
end

The project:

to ta
clearscreen tasetbackground 21 100 setpensize 25.0 make "box1 0.0
repeat 300.0 [ tasetpencolor xcor / 6.0 tasetshade heading forward :box1 right 91.0 make "box1 :box1 + 1.0 ]
end

ta

==Looking under the hood==

Turtle Art projects are stored as two files: (1) a .ta file contains a [http://docs.python.org/library/json.html json-encoded] serialization of the project; and (2) a .png file of the canvas.

The json encoding of a repeat 4 forward 100 right 90 project:

[[0,"repeat",331,158,[null,1,2,null]],[1,["number","4"],417,167,[0,null]],[2,"forward",426,207,[0,3,4]],[3,["number","100"],500,216,[2,null]],[4,"right",426,246,[2,5,null]],[5,["number","90"],500,255,[4,null]],[-1,"turtle",0,0,0,0,50,5]]

==Programmable Brick==

The following feature is only available in versions 44+ of Turtle Art.

=== myblock.py ===

And a block that can be programmed by the Pippy interface:

A copy of the tamyblock.py module is stored in the Journal when you first launch Turtle Art. You can edit the module in Pippy and then import your custom code into Turtle Art using the Pippy button.

[[Image:TAPippyButton.svg]]

[[Image:TA-pippy.png|300px]]

To use the customized block, select the "view source" block from the Sensors palette.

[[Image:TAMyblock.svg]]

Examples:

def myblock(lc,x):
# draw a dotted line of length x
# make sure x is a number
if type(x) != int and type(x) != float:
return
dist = 0
# save current turtle pen state
pen = lc.tw.turtle.pendown
# repeat drawing dots
while dist+lc.tw.turtle.pensize < x:
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, True)
forward(lc.tw.turtle, 1)
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, False)
forward(lc.tw.turtle, (lc.tw.turtle.pensize*2)-1)
dist += (lc.tw.turtle.pensize*2)
# make sure we have moved exactly x
forward(lc.tw.turtle, x-dist)
# restore pen state
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, pen)
return

[[Image:TA-dotted-line.png]]

def myblock(lc,x):
# push an uppercase version of a string onto the heap
if type(x) != str:
X = str(x).upper()
else:
X = x.upper()
# push result onto heap (use the pop block to use the new string)
lc.heap.append(X)
return

def myblock(lc,x):
# push hours, minutes, seconds onto the heap
# use three pop blocks to retrieve the values
# remember: the heap is a FILO (first in, last out)
# the first value you will pop will be seconds
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_hour)
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_min)
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_sec)
return

def myblock(lc,x):
# add a third dimension (gray) to the color model
# calculate the value (brightness) of the current color
val = 0.3 * lc.tw.rgb[0] + 0.6 * lc.tw.rgb[1] + 0.1 * lc.tw.rgb[2]
# make sure gray is in range from 0 to 100
if x != 100:
x = int(x)%100
# mix in gray
r = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[0]*x)/100)
g = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[1]*x)/100)
b = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[2]*x)/100)
# reallocate current color
lc.tw.fgcolor = lc.tw.cm.alloc_color(r<<8,g<<8,b<<8)
return

===From the field===

Tony Forster has written a number of blog posts about his experiments with Turtle Art: [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-python-blocks-in-turtleart.html Using Python blocks in TurtleArt] [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/turtle-lander.html Turtle Lander] [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/01/reprogramming-sugar.html Reprogramming Sugar]

An bringing it all together, [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-oscilloscope.html the Turtle Art Oscilloscope].

[http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-oscilloscope.html http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fTmGyLerUL4/Sbyd3ClYTJI/AAAAAAAAARs/21Q1ERocXzE/s400/Untitled.jpg]

Tony has also used the programmable block to do [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-fileview.html file IO].

==Just for fun==

[[Image:Galapagos.png|400px]]

[[Image:Hot-cold.png|400px]]
[http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9dsjf_hotcold-game_creation (video)]

[[Image:Yes-no.png|400px]]

[[File:State-game.png|400px]]
[http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9xz9o_stategame_tech (video)]

[[File:Pie1.png|200px]][[File:Pie2.png|200px]]
[http://5toescuela3.blogspot.com/2009/07/actividades-para-sugar.html Using Turtle Art for pie charts]

[[File:Keyboard.png|400px]] Q: How do I cast keyboard input to a string? Looking at the source your are using ord() to fetch the input... is there a way to convert that back to string before showing it? ANS: Use chr(). See the example in the illustration.

[[Category:Activities]]

Activities/Turtle Art-0.86

2009-09-18T15:41:43Z

Dennis Daniels: /* Where to get Turtle Art */ 66

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==Where to get Turtle Art==

[[Image:Activity-turtleart.png]]

Turtle Art is a [[Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities|fructose module]], so it is included as part of the standard Sugar (sucrose) distribution.

[http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 Version 66] | [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 addons] | [http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/turtleart Source] | [http://en.flossmanuals.net/turtleart FLOSS Manual] | [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TurtleArt laptop.org Turtle Art page] | [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Turtle_Art_student_guide Student Guide] | [http://www.reducativa.com/wiki/index.php?title=Proyecto_OLPC_-_Plan_Ceibal#Turtle_Art activity guides (es)] [http://ceibalpuertosauce.blogspot.com/2009/06/tortugarte.html mas TortugaArte] | [[Activities/TAExperimental|Experimental fork]] | [http://www.turtleart.org/ Turtle Art Gallery] | [[0.86/Turtle Art|0.86 release notes]] | [http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs/video/15708788 Introductory video]

'''Note:''' The first time you run Turtle Art, it takes about 60 seconds to load. You'll see a mostly blank screen after the initial flashing of the icon. Subsequently, the loading time is ~5 seconds (on an OLPC-XO-1 laptop).
=== i18n ===

Turtle Art currently has support for: de, el, en, es, fi, fr, it, mn, nl, pt, ru, sl, sv, ta, tr, vi, and zh_TW

(See [https://dev.laptop.org/translate/ our Pootle server] for details about how to translate Turtle Art into your language.)

==Background==

Turtle Art is an activity with a Logo-inspired graphical "turtle" that draws colorful art based on [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Scratch Scratch]-like snap-together visual programming elements.

Turtle Art is intended to be a stepping stone to the Logo programming language, but there are many restrictions compared to Logo. (Only numeric global variables and stack items are available, no lists or other data-structures. The conditionals and some of the functions only take constants or variables, not expressions. Limited screen real-estate makes building large programs unfeasible.) However, you can export your Turtle Art creations to [[#Exporting to Berkeley Logo|Berkeley Logo]]. The [[Activities/TAExperimental|experimental version of Turtle Art]] also has a (limited) facility for sensor input, so, for example, you can move the Turtle based upon sound volume or pitch.

A [[Activities/Turtle Art/Templates|portfolio feature]] lets you use Turtle Art to create multimedia slide shows from material retrieved from your Journal. The basic idea is to import images (and eventually movies, audio, and text files) into slide templates, not unlike Powerpoint, and then show a presentation by stepping through them. The portfolio includes the typical major functions of presentation software: an editor that allows text to be inserted and formatted (this is largely incomplete), a method for inserting images (from the Journal), and a slide-show system to display the content. What makes it a bit different than tools such as Powerpoint is that you can program your slides using Turtle Art blocks. Turtle Art also has an export-to-HTML function so that presentations can be viewed outside of the Sugar environment.

Turtle Art was written by Brian Silverman and is maintained by Walter Bender. Arjun Sarwal added the sensor features. Luis Michelena contributed to the "named" action and box blocks. Tony Forster has been the lead test engineer and has really [[#From_the_field|stretched the boundaries]] of Turtle Art.

===Learning with Turtle Art===

Play with Turtle Art to draw colorful art patterns using a turtle that accepts instructions for movement.

With visual programming blocks, you can snap together programs by compiling (combining) them in ways to create anything you can imagine.

[[Image:TA-sample1.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample2.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample3.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample4.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample5.png|400px]] [[Image:TA-sample6.png|400px]]

====maths====
A clock activity

[[Image:TAclock1.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock2.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock3.png|400px]] [[Image:TAclock4.png|400px]]

Calculating the hypotenuse and approximating the angle of a right triangle; Stepping through the program is a nice way to visualize the process of approximation; The final result of the approximation.

[[Image:TAgeometry.png|400px]] [[Image:TAgeometry1.png|400px]] [[Image:TAgeometry2.png|400px]]

And on-the-fly function definitions:

[[Image:Ta-sin.png]] [[Image:Sine.png|300px]]

Tony Forster describes his "adventures" with on-the-fly definitions to create an [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fTmGyLerUL4/SY0URR-P7TI/AAAAAAAAAN4/XySQUPHmiME/s1600-h/clockface.jpg analog clock] in [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-insert-function-block-in.html his blog.]

Try any of the [http://docs.python.org/library/time.html time] or [http://docs.python.org/library/math.html math] library functions, e.g.,

localtime().tm_min

sin(x) + sin(pi/2)

====presentations====
[[Image:Portfolio14.png|400px]] [[Image:Portfolio10.png|400px]]

====games====
Turtle Art can be used to write games, such as a simple falling block game:

[[Image:WeGotGame.png|400px]] [[Image:WeGotGame2.png|400px]]

===Portfolios===

In the era of high-stakes testing, we have the means to measure “which child knows more”; these data tell us about relative merit of the school in which a child is enrolled. The Turtle Art portfolio feature is an assessment tool that shows “what a child knows”; children become the curators of their own work. They advance their own learning and help their teachers, parents, and school administrators understand better the depth and breadth of what they have learned.

A [http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/3668/electronic-portfolios-a-path-to-the-future-of-learning recent article] in the ''Chronicle of Higher Education'' claims:
# ePortfolios can integrate student learning in an expanded range of media, literacies, and viable intellectual work;
# ePortfolios enable students to link together diverse parts of their learning including the formal and informal curriculum;
# ePortfolios engage students with their learning;
# ePortfolios offer ''colleges'' a meaningful mechanism for accessing and organizing the evidence of student learning.

Turtle Art portfolios engage children in the process of reflecting on their work—what they have done, how they have done it, and how success these efforts have been—as they create a multimedia narrative to show their teachers, parents and peers what they have learned. Turtle Art Portfolio builds upon the journaling functionality of the Sugar learning platform, where every action or activity a child takes in the classroom is automatically recorded in a folder: (1) by enabling the child to select important learning achievements, be they in reading, writing, arithmetic, arts, music, physical education, history and social science, etc. Children answer questions such as “I chose this piece because...” (2) creating a multimedia narrative presentation from their selections (including audio voice-overs and video), reflective of the multiple ways in which children learn; and (3) sharing their presentation with classmates, both to celebrate what they have learned, but also to engage in a critical dialog about their work.

Turtle Art portfolio is innovative in three ways: (1) it builds upon a journal of *all* learning activities that is automatically collected; (2) it has unique programmability, fun and accessible to even the youngest elementary school children, but interesting and engaging to middle-school children as well; and (3) it has unique tools for both collaborating on the construction of the portfolio and its subsequent sharing with others.

Portfolios have been shown to be “a powerful means for children to assess their own work, set goals, and take responsibility for their future learning.” But portfolio assessment has seen limited applicability. It is a practical, engaging means to using portfolios. By building upon the automatic accumulation of work in journal (including a “screen capture” of their work) the portfolio process can readily be integrated into the classroom routine. Reflection becomes the norm: children are encouraged write in their journals (young children record audio notes) for a few minutes after *every* class. The numbing question, “what did you do in school today?” need no longer a necessary part of the parent-child dialog. Instead, the parent can talk to the child about actual artifacts.

Culling from the journal becomes part of the end-of-term assessment process. The process of telling one's story as a learning requires further reflection. At a “portfolio social”, parents are invited to view presentations and ask children about their learning; the child's voice is heard.

The classroom teacher can add addition assessment slides to the portfolio about themes such as work habits and personal growth, as part of an archive that travels with a child across grade levels. Through juxtaposition, the child and teacher can see what has changed over the course of the years, trends, and areas for improvement, Also, a classroom portfolio can be assembled as part of a teacher-assessment process.

Some additional background on ePortfolios can be found here:
* [http://ncepr.org/ Inter/National Coalition for ePortfolio Research]
* [http://epac.pbwiki.com/ ePortfolio Action & Communication – ePAC]
* [http://electronicportfolios.org/ Helen Barrett’s ePortfolio site]
* [http://www.igi-pub.com/reference/details.asp?ID=5072&v=preface Handbook of Research on ePortfolios]
* [http://www.epforum.eu/ EuroPortfolio]
* [http://www.eportfolio.lagcc.cuny.edu/conference/connections.html Making Connections National Resource Center]

==Getting Started==

[[Image:TA-1.png|400px]]

Start by clicking on (or dragging) blocks from the Turtle palette. Use multiple blocks to create drawings; as the turtle moves under your control, colorful lines are drawn.

You add blocks to your program by clicking on or dragging them from the palette to the main area. You can delete a block by dragging it back onto the palette. Click anywhere on a "stack" of blocks to start executing that stack or by clicking in the Rabbit (fast) or Turtle (slow) buttons on the Project Toolbar.
===tips===
Did you know that you can copy/paste stacks to/from the clipboard? You type Ctrl-C to copy whatever stack is under the cursor to the clipboard. Ctrl-V will paste from the clipboard onto whatever TA project you have open.

===Video Tutorials===
I know there are a few but they are not categorized on this page... we'll make that happen soon. Help would be appreciated.

* [http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pleabargain+sugar+turtle+art&search_type=&aq=o introductory videos here on Turtle Art]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa71j3_to-square-final-2 To Square—a tutorial by the Summer Spot youths at the Lilla G. Frederick Pilot Middle School]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHd6nEmXT34 A basic tutorial].
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9cpzd_turtleartportfoliobasics_creation a video of the portfolio basics]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9dsjf_hotcold-game_creation Get your hot cold Turtle Art Video here!]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9xz9o_stategame_tech Name that State!]
* [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa7dle_shapes A Shapes and Colors Game]

===Project Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-Projecttoolbar2.png]]

From left to right: show/hide palette; show/hide blocks; run project fast; run project slow; stop project; erase canvas; full-screen mode

Keyboard short cuts for the above: Alt+ '''p'''alette; '''b'''locks; '''r'''un; '''w'''alk; '''s'''top; '''e'''rase; e.g., Alt+e will erase the screen.

Notes: The run buttons are tied to the [[#descriptions (6)|Start Block]]. If no Start Block is used, then all blocks are run when either run button is clicked. The "rabbit" button runs the blocks at maximum speed. The "turtle" button pauses and displays the turtle between each step.

===Save/Load Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-savetoolbar.png]]

Load sample project; Save to HTML; [[#Exporting to Berkeley Logo|Save to Logo]]; Save as an image; and [[#Programmable Brick|Programmable Brick]]

===Edit Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-edittoolbar.png]]

The Edit toolbar is used to copy stacks of blocks to the clipboard and to paste stacks from the clipboard. To copy a stack, place the cursor on any block in the stack and then type Ctrl-c. To paste a stack from the clipboard, type Ctrl-v.

===Activity Toolbar===
[[Image:TA-activitytoolbar.png]]

The standard Sugar Activity toolbar: activity name; [[#Sharing|share]]; keep; and stop

==Palettes==
There are seven palettes of program elements available for program construction: [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Turtle|Turtle movements]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Pen|Pen attributes]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Numbers|Numeric operators]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Sensors|Misc. functions]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Flow|Logical operators]]; [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Blocks|Logical blocks]]; and [[Activities/Turtle_Art/Templates|Presentation blocks]]


[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Turtle http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/6/6d/TA-turtle-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Pen http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/8/81/TA-pen-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Numbers http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/46/TA-numbers-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Sensors http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/6/6c/TA-sensors-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Flow http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/a/ac/TA-flow-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Blocks http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/45/TA-myblocks-palette.png]
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Templates http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/5/51/TA-templates.png]




==Quick Tutorial on using the portfolio features==
[[Image:Portfolio1.png|thumb|left|Start by selecting a slide template from the palette.]]
[[Image:Portfolio2a.png|thumb|left|Click on the Journal icon to initiate a search for slide content.]]
[[Image:Portfolio3.png|thumb|left|Select a journal object.]]
[[Image:Journal1.png|thumb|left|The Journal preview and description will be used.]]
[[Image:Portfolio4.png|thumb|left|A thumbnail will appear in the template.]]
[[Image:Portfolio5.png|thumb|left|Click on the slide template to view the slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio6.png|thumb|left|Click on the Hide Blocks button on the toolbar to hide any blocks that are covering your slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio7.png|thumb|left|Congratulations. You've made a slide.]]
[[Image:Portfolio8.png|thumb|left|Try using some of the other templates.]]
[[Image:Portfolio10.png|thumb|left|View them by clicking on them (you may want to use the Eraser button first).]]
[[Image:Portfolio11.png|thumb|left|You can program a simple slide show by making a stack: clear the screen; show Slide 1; wait; clear the screen; show Slide 2.]]
[[Image:Portfolio12.png|thumb|left|You can also program stacks for your slide decorations and slide transitions.]]
[[Image:Portfolio13.png|thumb|left|In this example, we draw a rule under the title of each slide and poll for keyboard input to transition between slides.]]
[[Image:Portfolio14.png|thumb|left|Run your slide show by clicking on the Run Button (rabbit) on the toolbar.]]
[[Image:Portfolio15.png|thumb|left|In this example, we use microphone input to transition between slides.]]
[[Image:Lock-block.png|thumb|left|Using "lock blocks" to extend long stacks.]]

<div class="visualClear"></div>

A video of the portfolio basics is available [http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9cpzd_turtleartportfoliobasics_creation here].

==Sharing==

Turtle Art supports a simple sharing model. Whomever joins a shared activity will get a copy of the current state of the project from the initiator of the share. Subsequent changes to the project are shared between all participants. It is not recommended to share among more than 2–3 people at a time. Please note that if different versions of Turtle Art are used in the same share instance, there may be problems, as old versions won't know how to handle new bricks introduced in later versions.

[[Image:TAsharing.png|400px]]

==Exporting to Berkeley Logo==
Turtle Art can export its projects to [http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ Berkeley Logo] (using the Save as Logo button on the [[#Project Toolbar|Project Toolbar]])

[[Image:Taspin.png|thumb|left|a Turtle Art project]]
[[Image:UCB-Logo.png|thumb|left|the UCB Logo version]]
<div class="visualClear"></div>

'''Note:''' The project is saved to the Journal as "logosession.lg". UCB Logo does not yet access the Journal directly, so it is necessary to copy the project out of the Journal using the "copy-from-journal" command in the Terminal Activity and then accessing the project using the File menu within the UCB Logo Activity.

copy-from-journal logosession.lg

===Internals===
Some procedures for setting up the palette and the shade functionality:

to tasetpalette :i :r :g :b :myshade
make "s ((:myshade - 50) / 50)
ifelse lessp :s 0 [
make "s (1 + (:s *0.8))
make "r (:r * :s)
make "g (:g * :s)
make "b (:b * :s)
] [
make "s (:s * 0.9)
make "r (:r + ((100-:r) * :s))
make "g (:g + ((100-:g) * :s))
make "b (:b + ((100-:b) * :s))
]
setpalette :i (list :r :g :b)
end

to rgb :myi :mycolors :myshade
make "myr first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
make "myg first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
make "myb first :mycolors
make "mycolors butfirst :mycolors
tasetpalette :myi :myr :myg :myb :myshade
output :mycolors
end

to processcolor :mycolors :myshade
if emptyp :mycolors [stop]
make "i :i + 1
processcolor (rgb :i :mycolors :myshade) :myshade
end

to tasetshade :shade
make "myshade modulo :shade 200
if greaterp :myshade 99 [make "myshade (199-:myshade)]
make "i 7
make "mycolors :colors
processcolor :mycolors :myshade
end

to tasetpencolor :c
make "color modulo round :c 100
setpencolor :color + 8
end

make "colors [
100 0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45 0
100 50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95 0
100 100 0 90 100 0 80 100 0 70 100 0 60 100 0 50 100 0 40 100 0 30 100 0 20 100 0 10 100 0
0 100 0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45
0 100 50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95
0 100 100 0 95 100 0 90 100 0 85 100 0 80 100 0 75 100 0 70 100 0 65 100 0 60 100 0 55 100
0 50 100 0 45 100 0 40 100 0 35 100 0 30 100 0 25 100 0 20 100 0 15 100 0 10 100 0 5 100
0 0 100 5 0 100 10 0 100 15 0 100 20 0 100 25 0 100 30 0 100 35 0 100 40 0 100 45 0 100
50 0 100 55 0 100 60 0 100 65 0 100 70 0 100 75 0 100 80 0 100 85 0 100 90 0 100 95 0 100
100 0 100 100 0 90 100 0 80 100 0 70 100 0 60 100 0 50 100 0 40 100 0 30 100 0 20 100 0 10]
make "shade 50
tasetshade :shade

to tasetbackground :color :shade
tasetshade :shade
setbackground :color + 8
end

The project:

to ta
clearscreen tasetbackground 21 100 setpensize 25.0 make "box1 0.0
repeat 300.0 [ tasetpencolor xcor / 6.0 tasetshade heading forward :box1 right 91.0 make "box1 :box1 + 1.0 ]
end

ta

==Looking under the hood==

Turtle Art projects are stored as two files: (1) a .ta file contains a [http://docs.python.org/library/json.html json-encoded] serialization of the project; and (2) a .png file of the canvas.

The json encoding of a repeat 4 forward 100 right 90 project:

[[0,"repeat",331,158,[null,1,2,null]],[1,["number","4"],417,167,[0,null]],[2,"forward",426,207,[0,3,4]],[3,["number","100"],500,216,[2,null]],[4,"right",426,246,[2,5,null]],[5,["number","90"],500,255,[4,null]],[-1,"turtle",0,0,0,0,50,5]]

==Programmable Brick==

The following feature is only available in versions 44+ of Turtle Art.

=== myblock.py ===

And a block that can be programmed by the Pippy interface:

A copy of the tamyblock.py module is stored in the Journal when you first launch Turtle Art. You can edit the module in Pippy and then import your custom code into Turtle Art using the Pippy button.

[[Image:TAPippyButton.svg]]

[[Image:TA-pippy.png|300px]]

To use the customized block, select the "view source" block from the Sensors palette.

[[Image:TAMyblock.svg]]

Examples:

def myblock(lc,x):
# draw a dotted line of length x
# make sure x is a number
if type(x) != int and type(x) != float:
return
dist = 0
# save current turtle pen state
pen = lc.tw.turtle.pendown
# repeat drawing dots
while dist+lc.tw.turtle.pensize < x:
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, True)
forward(lc.tw.turtle, 1)
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, False)
forward(lc.tw.turtle, (lc.tw.turtle.pensize*2)-1)
dist += (lc.tw.turtle.pensize*2)
# make sure we have moved exactly x
forward(lc.tw.turtle, x-dist)
# restore pen state
setpen(lc.tw.turtle, pen)
return

[[Image:TA-dotted-line.png]]

def myblock(lc,x):
# push an uppercase version of a string onto the heap
if type(x) != str:
X = str(x).upper()
else:
X = x.upper()
# push result onto heap (use the pop block to use the new string)
lc.heap.append(X)
return

def myblock(lc,x):
# push hours, minutes, seconds onto the heap
# use three pop blocks to retrieve the values
# remember: the heap is a FILO (first in, last out)
# the first value you will pop will be seconds
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_hour)
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_min)
lc.heap.append(localtime().tm_sec)
return

def myblock(lc,x):
# add a third dimension (gray) to the color model
# calculate the value (brightness) of the current color
val = 0.3 * lc.tw.rgb[0] + 0.6 * lc.tw.rgb[1] + 0.1 * lc.tw.rgb[2]
# make sure gray is in range from 0 to 100
if x != 100:
x = int(x)%100
# mix in gray
r = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[0]*x)/100)
g = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[1]*x)/100)
b = int((val*(100-x) + lc.tw.rgb[2]*x)/100)
# reallocate current color
lc.tw.fgcolor = lc.tw.cm.alloc_color(r<<8,g<<8,b<<8)
return

===From the field===

Tony Forster has written a number of blog posts about his experiments with Turtle Art: [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-python-blocks-in-turtleart.html Using Python blocks in TurtleArt] [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/02/turtle-lander.html Turtle Lander] [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/01/reprogramming-sugar.html Reprogramming Sugar]

An bringing it all together, [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-oscilloscope.html the Turtle Art Oscilloscope].

[http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-oscilloscope.html http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fTmGyLerUL4/Sbyd3ClYTJI/AAAAAAAAARs/21Q1ERocXzE/s400/Untitled.jpg]

Tony has also used the programmable block to do [http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-fileview.html file IO].

==Just for fun==

[[Image:Galapagos.png|400px]]

[[Image:Hot-cold.png|400px]]
[http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9dsjf_hotcold-game_creation (video)]

[[Image:Yes-no.png|400px]]

[[File:State-game.png|400px]]
[http://www.dailymotion.com/user/sugarlabs/video/x9xz9o_stategame_tech (video)]

[[File:Pie1.png|200px]][[File:Pie2.png|200px]]
[http://5toescuela3.blogspot.com/2009/07/actividades-para-sugar.html Using Turtle Art for pie charts]

[[File:Keyboard.png|400px]] Q: How do I cast keyboard input to a string? Looking at the source your are using ord() to fetch the input... is there a way to convert that back to string before showing it? ANS: Use chr(). See the example in the illustration.

[[Category:Activities]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T15:35:58Z

Dennis Daniels: /* general */ *users are not notified of new .xo versions

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats

==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User talk:Ndoiron

2009-09-18T15:28:00Z

Dennis Daniels: Created page with 'Greetings. I did a quick review of the map activity here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMtQIqdfQ ~~~~'

Greetings. I did a quick review of the map activity here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMtQIqdfQ

[[User:Dennis Daniels|Dennis Daniels]] 15:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Activities/Map

2009-09-18T15:26:32Z

Dennis Daniels: /* Development */ =Review= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMtQIqdfQ

<noinclude>{{TOCright}}
[[Category:Activities|Map]]</noinclude>

The Map activity allows children to create geo-tagged media mashups. Children can place images, videos, and audio recordings onto maps of their communities. They can use the XO's mesh network and the Internet to collaborate on maps, or save the map they're working on to their [[Journal]].

Download the activity here: http://maptonomy.appspot.com/Map-3b.xo

This activity needs your help to get out of Beta. '''Please edit this or the discussion page if you have a question.''' The [[olpc:Log]] activity should have information on any errors.

= Tutorial =

== '''[[olpc:Map_(activity)/v3pagina |(Página en Español)]]''' ==

== Getting Started ==
Navigate the map using the compass arrows on the sides of the map. You can zoom in and out using the '''+''' and '''-''' buttons, or double-clicking. Enter a location into the '''Find''' bar to jump to a new part of the world. Like other activities, you can invite other XOs in your network to view the map.
 
 
[[Image:Map-Screenshot.jpg‎]]
 
 
== Adding Media ==
To add media from your journal onto the map, click on the '''Add Media''' button.
 
[[Image:Map-AddMedia.jpg‎]]
 
This will open a file chooser dialog. Select a picture or video you made in the Record activity.
 
 
[[Image:Map-SelectMedia.jpg‎]]
 
 
Your mouse will become a crosshair. Click the map to place the marker.
 
 
[[Image:Map-MediaIsOn.jpg‎]]
 
 
== Adding Text ==
You can add a text marker by clicking the '''i''' button in the '''Edit''' section. A text marker is shared with other XOs in your network. You can edit your own or others' text markers by clicking the marker and clicking the '''Edit''' button.

You can add images from the internet using the code '''img::'''www.example.org/picture.jpg

You can add articles from Simple English Wikipedia using the code '''wiki::'''Article Name

You can add articles from other languages' Wikipedias by adding its language code. For example, Spanish (ES.wikipedia.org) is '''wikiES::''' and French (FR.wikipedia.org) is '''wikiFR::'''

Other codes are '''google::''' to embed a Google search, and '''vid::''' for OGG videos only.

[[Image:InfoMarkers.jpg]]

== Saving Maps ==
You can save a map by clicking the '''star''' button. Saved maps are added to the tray at the bottom of the activity. If you click a map button, the map will be returned to the location and zoom level as when the map was saved.
 
 
[[Image:Map-SavedMap.jpg‎]]
 
 
You can copy an image of this map state to the clipboard if you want to use it in other activities, such as Write or Paint.
 
You can also describe this map as seen in the next screenshot:
 
 
[[Image:Map-DescribeSaveMap.jpg‎]]
 
 
== Measuring Distance and Area ==
The new Measure feature can measure polyline distance or rectangle area. This is useful for geometry, surveying, or learning units.

Click the Ruler icon in the '''Edit''' tab.
 
 
[[Image:Map-MeasureOn.jpg‎]]
 
 
Select Distance and click two points to begin measuring. When you are finished, click '''Done'''.
 
 
[[Image:Map-MeasureDistance.jpg‎]]
 
 
To measure Area, click opposite corners (for example, the northeast and southwest corners of Colorado)
 
 
[[Image:Map-MeasureArea.jpg‎]]

== Online Content ==
===The Maps4xo Library===
Click the Browse icon in the '''Edit''' Menu to view the library. Maps4xo shows new and nearby map content, as well as links to maps full of '''Wikipedia''' articles and '''Panoramio''' photos.
 
 
[[Image:Map-MapLibrary.jpg‎]]
 
 
The map content is intended to serve as an introduction to GIS/mapping technology uses and concepts. This example is adapted from the real-life use of GPS to track and protect turtles.
 
 
[[Image:Map-TurtleMap.jpg‎]]
 
 

===The OurMaps Wiki===
OurMaps is a wiki for storing or sharing map markers online.

When many markers are in one place, they are combined into a red "cluster" marker:
 
 
[[Image:Map-WikiCluster.jpg‎]]
 
 
A marker can have an image or Wikipedia article embedded inside. This marker uses Simple Wikipedia's mobile site.
 
 
[[Image:Map-EmbedWiki.jpg‎]]
 
 
It is easy to create a marker and add to the map. A school can create a private group to collect markers that only they can see. A public group shares its markers with XO users around the world.
 
 
[[Image:Map-AddToWiki.jpg‎]]
 
 

====Codes for Wikipedia, Pictures, Etc====
In addition to '''wiki::''' , you can add a language code to make '''wikiES::''' for Spanish or '''wikiFR::''' for French.

The code '''img::''' or '''pic::''' will post an image and '''google::''' will embed a Google search. If you have an OGV video, you can use the code '''vid::''' - note that this will load slowly on most connections.

= How to Install =
Download this '''.xo''' file using the Browse activity: (http://maptonomy.appspot.com/Map-3b.xo download)

= Development =
The Map activity was written in PyGTK. It relies on javascript files (including prototype.js) to interface with Google Maps V3 and Google's Static Maps API.

All of the Map activity's code is under an MIT License.

=Review=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvMtQIqdfQ

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-18T15:12:16Z

Dennis Daniels:

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

How to Create a Jabber Server

2009-09-17T16:55:26Z

Dennis Daniels: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/School_Server XS schoolserver

<noinclude>{{GoogleTrans-en}}</noinclude>

Sugar collaboration is built on top of [[wikipedia:Jabber|XMPP (Jabber)]], an open and extensible [[wikipedia:instant messaging|instant messaging]] protocol. Collaboration via a server is more scalable than over link local connections. This server is a Jabber server (with a few extra modules and patches) and is usually included in the [[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/School_Server XS schoolserver]] for school deployments.

Community members such as G1G1 XO users, and developers, can use a Jabber server for collaboration without needing the rest of the schoolserver functionality. In this way, "mesh view" can be extended over the Internet for regional or global communities.

== Running your own server ==

Currently the only Jabber server that works for Sugar collaboration is [[wikipedia:ejabberd|ejabberd]] with Sugar-specific patches. See [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd Installing ejabberd] for instructions on installing and configuring it.

For those interested in the details, more details on the ejabberd configuration are here: [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_Configuration Ejabberd Configuration]

If you get a community server up, consider adding it to [[Community/A list of Jabber networks around the world]].

[[Category:Collaboration]]
[[Category:Jabber]]
[[Category:HowTo]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T16:50:51Z

Dennis Daniels: /* wish */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T16:48:56Z

Dennis Daniels: /* sharing */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)

==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T16:42:30Z

Dennis Daniels: /* sharing */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities==
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans

2009-09-17T16:09:14Z

Dennis Daniels: /* 20 or so people in attendance */ http://www.gnocode.org/

sugar presentation
=Total talking time=
15 min

=20 or so people in attendance=
gnocode in New Orleans:http://www.gnocode.org/
tech group
interested in doing 'public good' projects
setting up computer labs at Non Profits
web page dev
etc
mix of devs from all industries

=overview of Sugar project=
Used a use case diagram to help describe the 'whole' project on one page

=demonstrated =
talked about
future of project
community
contact via the IRC
Turtle Art
Neighbor hood
sharing of files
one person a Ruby guy on a mac installed Sugar on his VM during the presentation
=future=
do a presentation on how to create VM
then have users install Sugar during the meeting
bring SoaS

16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans

2009-09-17T15:59:34Z

Dennis Daniels: Created page with 'sugar presentation =Total talking time= 15 min =20 or so people in attendance= gnocode in New Orleans tech group interested in doing …'

sugar presentation
=Total talking time=
15 min

=20 or so people in attendance=
gnocode in New Orleans
tech group
interested in doing 'public good' projects
setting up computer labs at Non Profits
web page dev
etc
mix of devs from all industries

=overview of Sugar project=
Used a use case diagram to help describe the 'whole' project on one page

=demonstrated =
talked about
future of project
community
contact via the IRC
Turtle Art
Neighbor hood
sharing of files
one person a Ruby guy on a mac installed Sugar on his VM during the presentation
=future=
do a presentation on how to create VM
then have users install Sugar during the meeting
bring SoaS

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T15:57:54Z

Dennis Daniels: /* pages I watch */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]

[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T15:57:38Z

Dennis Daniels: /* pages I watch */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-17T15:36:11Z

Dennis Daniels:

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T15:58:08Z

Dennis Daniels: /* labyrinth */

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as html for publishing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk

===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T15:55:46Z

Dennis Daniels:

=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as html for publishing
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T15:54:30Z

Dennis Daniels: /* tags */

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as html for publishing
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T15:53:21Z

Dennis Daniels: /* sharing */

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==activities
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as html for publishing
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

File:Reporting a bug.png

2009-09-16T03:30:01Z

Dennis Daniels: uploaded a new version of "File:Reporting a bug.png"

Long and tedious process

Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution

2009-09-16T03:27:29Z

Dennis Daniels:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Reporting_a_bug.png

It takes nearly ten minutes to report a bug...

Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution

2009-09-16T03:08:12Z

Dennis Daniels: Created page with 'http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Reporting_a_bug.png'

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Reporting_a_bug.png

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T03:08:00Z

Dennis Daniels: /* pages I watch */

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

File:Reporting a bug.png

2009-09-16T03:06:52Z

Dennis Daniels: Long and tedious process

Long and tedious process

Sugar Perspective

2009-09-16T03:00:39Z

Dennis Daniels:

A diagram I made to simplify Sugar into one UML use case diagram. (I need to learn how to get images to work in the wiki... need a full editor suite/buttons for Wiki.

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar_overview.png

Sugar Perspective

2009-09-16T02:56:57Z

Dennis Daniels:

A diagram I made to simplify Sugar into one UML use case diagram. (I need to learn how to get images to work in the wiki... need a full editor suite/buttons for Wiki.

[[Image:120px-Sugar_overview.png]]

Sugar Perspective

2009-09-16T02:41:56Z

Dennis Daniels: Created page with 'A diagram I made to simplify Sugar into one UML use case diagram. (I need to learn how to get images to work in the wiki... need a full editor suite/buttons for Wiki. [[http://w…'

A diagram I made to simplify Sugar into one UML use case diagram. (I need to learn how to get images to work in the wiki... need a full editor suite/buttons for Wiki.

[[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/7e/Sugar_overview.png/120px-Sugar_overview.png]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T02:34:14Z

Dennis Daniels: /* pages I watch */

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==
[[Sugar Perspective]]

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

File:Sugar overview.png

2009-09-16T02:31:26Z

Dennis Daniels:

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T02:18:00Z

Dennis Daniels:

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T02:09:33Z

Dennis Daniels:

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T02:01:25Z

Dennis Daniels:

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neigborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-16T01:46:52Z

Dennis Daniels:

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

0.82/Roadmap

2009-09-15T01:48:23Z

Dennis Daniels: /* Fructose Dependencies */

noinclude>{{GoogleTrans-en}}{{TeamHeader|Development Team|roadmap_link={{Upcoming Stable Release}}/Roadmap}}</noinclude>
{{TOCright}}
== Sucrose Development ==

Sucrose 0.81.x is an unstable development series intended for testing and
development purposes. Sucrose uses odd minor version numbers to indicate
development status, so this unstable 0.81.x series will eventually become
the 0.82 stable release.

== Timeline ==

[[Image:Sucrose-0-82-roadmap.png|800px|Timeline showing the 0.81.x to 0.82 schedule]]

== Schedule ==

{| cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" border="1"
!Date
!Task
!Notes
|-
|May 8 2008
|Development start
|New features proposal
|-
|May 21
|Sucrose 0.81.1 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|May 22
|Sucrose 0.81.1 Development Release
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.1 Release News]
|-
|June 5
|Sucrose 0.81.2 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|June 6
|Sucrose 0.81.2 Development Release
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.2 Release News]
|-
|June 20
|Sucrose 0.81.3 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|June 21
|Sucrose 0.82 Beta 1 (0.81.3)
|Feature, ABI, String freeze
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.3 Release News]
|-
|July 7
|Sucrose 0.81.4 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|July 8
|Sucrose 0.82 Beta 2 (0.81.4)
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.4 Release News]
|-
|July 21
|Sucrose 0.81.5 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|July 22
|Sucrose 0.82 Release Candidate 1 (0.81.5)
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.5 Release News]
|-
|July 31
|Sucrose 0.81.6 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|August 1
|Sucrose 0.82 Release Candidate 2 (0.81.6)
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.81.6 Release News]
|-
|August 6
|Sucrose 0.82.0 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|August 8
|Sucrose 0.82.0 Final Release!
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.82.0 Release News]
|-
|August 28
|Sucrose 0.82.1 Tarballs Due
|
|-
|August 29
|Sucrose 0.82.1 Stable Release
| [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.82.1 Release News]
|}

== Glucose Development Team/Release/Modules ==

* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#etoys|etoys]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar|sugar]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar-base|sugar-base]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar-datastore|sugar-datastore]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar-presence-service|sugar-presence-service]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar-toolkit|sugar-toolkit]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#sugar-artwork|sugar-artwork]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#journal-activity|journal-activity]]

== Fructose Development Team/Release/Modules ==
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#chat-activity|chat-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#web-activity|web-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#read-activity|read-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#log-activity|log-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#write-activity|write-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#calculate-activity|calculate-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#terminal-activity|terminal-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#pippy-activity|pippy-activity]]
* [[Development Team/Release/Modules#etoys-activity|etoys-activity]]

== Glucose Dependencies ==

* hippo-canvas
* [http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-glib/ telepathy-glib]
* [http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/ telepathy-gabble]
* [http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-salut/ telepathy-salut]
* [http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-python/ telepathy-python]

== Fructose Dependencies ==

* pyabiword
* hulahop
* squeak
:Ahh, squeak is the only package that uses svn, and it's not installed. I added http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Jhbuild#Prequisites

== Tickets ==

* [http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=keywords&next_action=!package&next_action=!add+to+build&next_action=!test+in+build&next_action=!qa+signoff&next_action=!finalize&component=sugar&component=datastore&component=presence-service&component=journal-activity&order=priority&milestone=8.2.0+(was+Update.2) Glucose tickets]
* [http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=keywords&next_action=!package&next_action=!add+to+build&next_action=!test+in+build&next_action=!qa+signoff&next_action=!finalize&component=chat-activity&component=browse-activity&component=read-activity&component=log-activity&component=write-activity+(abiword)&component=calculator-activity&component=terminal-activity&component=pippy-activity&component=etoys-activity&order=priority&milestone=8.2.0+(was+Update.2) Fructose tickets]

== New features ==

Done:

* Control panel (erikos)
* Session management (marco)
* New activity startup notification (marco)
* Object chooser [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Object_Chooser improvements] (tomeu)
* Web activity: autocompletion of bookmarks and history (marco)
* Web activity: Find in context (erikos)
* Web activity: custom certificates "support" (marco)
* Chat with non-sugar Jabber clients (morgs)
* Free form layout of the homepage and ability to move icons around (tomeu)
* Window navigation using tab (benzea)

Delayed:

* Presence scalability when using Jabber by using gadget (gdesmott, daf)

[[Category:Development Team/Release]]
[[Category:Roadmap]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T19:12:57Z

Dennis Daniels:

I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=

==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T18:51:48Z

Dennis Daniels:

Teacher.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in Write acitivity
*no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T18:50:31Z

Dennis Daniels: /* don't work at all */

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in Write acitivity
*no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity

==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T18:49:05Z

Dennis Daniels: /* general */

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in Write acitivity
*no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved?
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity
==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T18:33:27Z

Dennis Daniels: /* ongoing issues */

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
==general==
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in Write acitivity
*no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
*Pippy doesn't load examples

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity
==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-14T17:47:28Z

Dennis Daniels: /* ongoing issues */

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
*no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*Pippy doesn't load examples

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity
==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-11T16:12:14Z

Dennis Daniels: /* ongoing issues */

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
=ongoing issues=
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-pippy doesn't load examples
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

User:Dennis Daniels

2009-09-11T16:10:43Z

Dennis Daniels:

Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].

=ongoing issues=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
-ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
-pippy doesn't load examples
-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
-can't name chats
-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
-control over edits to shared docs?

==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration

==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
==links==
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]

==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run

=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!

<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!

<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you

<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)

<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run

<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run

<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?

<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?

<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)

<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)

<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)

==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJbtY67VYQ part I]
This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAfqzttEVA part II]
This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmYWz_p7Hc part III]
F1 to see network view.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZe-ICRxUs part IV]
This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bwB3aAVVo part V]
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-Tj6XbYpk part VI]
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.

===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]

==notes==

Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.

Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pleabargain&view=videos&query=sugaronastick videos]

==pages I watch==

[[Make error on hulahop]]

[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]

[[hotkeys]]

[[How to make screencasts on Sugar]]

[[How to play video on Sugar]]

[[How to shut down Sugar]]

[[How to add other applications as Activities]]
i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.

[[How to close unresponsive activities]]

[[How to wipe away Sugar]]

[[What is a COW?]]

Hotkeys

2009-09-11T15:26:52Z

Dennis Daniels: /* Sugar Hotkeys */ :Is there another way to make a screengrab? An activity?

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==Sugar Hotkeys==
(These may or may not work, for example many of these DON'T work if you are running Sugar in emulation mode in [http://fedoraproject.org/ Fedora 11].)
* '''F1''' for Neighborhood view (wireless network view), See [[Human Interface Guidelines/The Laptop Experience/Zoom Metaphor]].
* '''F2''' for Groups view,
* '''F3''' for Home view,
* '''F4''' for Activity view,
* '''Alt + Tab''' to change between Activities,
* '''Alt + 1''' to make a screengrab (saves to Journal)
:Is there another way to make a screengrab? An activity?

==in emulation mode==
* '''Alt + Shift + F''' makes the frame appear and disappear
* '''Ctrl + q''' quits an activity
* '''Alt + Shift + Q''' quits Sugar
* '''Alt + Shift + O''' opens the search
* '''Alt + Shift + R''' rotates the screen

==Terminal hotkeys==
* '''Ctrl + Shift + c''' = copy to clipboard
* '''Ctrl + Shift + v''' = paste from clipboard

==Keys that should work==
Some combination of hotkeys should always work to close an application. Somtimes
* '''Ctrl + q''' works
but not always.
==Activities==
===Turtle Art Hotkeys===
* '''Alt + p''' = palette;
* '''Alt + b''' = blocks;
* '''Alt + r''' = run;
* '''Alt + w''' = walk;
* '''Alt + s''' = stop;
* '''Alt + e''' = erase the screen.

==The undiscoverables==
* Hidden Features:[[The_undiscoverable]]

==Keys that don't work but should==
* '''Esc''' doesn't appear to do anything at the activity level ... if Sugar is to help kids learn about computers then they should know that escape, outside of Sugar, does a lot of stop-gap good. Is there no 'Esc' on OLPC machines?
:Try using the '''Ctrl + Esc''' combination--[[User:Dennis Daniels|Dennis Daniels]] 15:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

==See also==
The [[olpc:Keyboard shortcuts]] for the OLPC XO-1.