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Talk:Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:28:40Z

Nmayhew: Break up into sections separated by horizontal lines

== Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) ==

I'm moving these comments from the main page, since I can more easily respond to them here. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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[[User:Nmayhew|Neil Mayhew]] 16:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorites_layout -t string ring-layout
I think this will be fixed by adding the right gconf schema to the package, and hopefully will be fixed in version 0.84.

There are still lots of non-fatal error messages in the terminal, but it looks like these can be ignored. I used <code>sugar-emulator --dpi=200</code>. Logging in to a Sugar session from <code>gdm</code> worked too.

Previously, it was thought that [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 a problem with Xephyr and dbus] was at fault, but the above workaround shows that it's a Sugar packaging problem.
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[[User:satellit|satellit]] 04/30/2009
*NOTE 1: Also tried synaptic install of sugar, neither method runs correctly. sugar-emulator will not start, terminal: sugar-emulator shows errors and will not start.??

(VMworkstation 6.5.2 install (runnng Ubuntu 8,04 Hardy) and Ubuntu 9.04 VM install of Ubuntu 9.04 made 2Gb SD startup disk with persistence tested in EeePC900 both installations were updated before trying install of sugar.

Here are error messages from terminal:

robert@ubuntu:~$ sugar
root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?)
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py:19: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/keydialog.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 173, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 134, in main
cleanup_logs()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 74, in cleanup_logs
os.remove(os.path.join(root, f))
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/robert/.sugar/default/logs/1241095852/datastore.log'

sugar command Does not work from sudo either..

:The error you're getting above is because you ran it as root. Now it has some log files lying around that it's trying to use, but you don't have permission to modify them. You can do something like this to resolve that problem:
sudo chown -R robert ~/.sugar
:That will get you back to the point where you see the underlying problem, which is reported in <code>~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log</code> that has to do with dbus. See [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 here] for a possible resolution. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*Note 2: Ubuntu 9.04 USB Startup disk program makes SD which can be updated. If you add user and switch to new user, the Install icon goes away from the desktop and is now located in System Administration unlike Fedora 11 Preview where it is not removed from a user's desktop, And a system update fails.

*Note 3: sugar-emulator in terminal results in a black screen with mouse coursor. Have to Alt-Tab get out..

Talk:Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:21:45Z

Nmayhew: /* Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) */ Make satellit's user link work

== Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) ==

I'm moving these comments from the main page, since I can more easily respond to them here. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[[User:nmayhew|Neil Mayhew]] 2009-07-10: I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorites_layout -t string ring-layout
I think this will be fixed by adding the right gconf schema to the package, and hopefully will be fixed in version 0.84.

There are still lots of non-fatal error messages in the terminal, but it looks like these can be ignored. I used <code>sugar-emulator --dpi=200</code>. Logging in to a Sugar session from <code>gdm</code> worked too.

Previously, it was thought that [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 a problem with Xephyr and dbus] was at fault, but the above workaround shows that it's a Sugar packaging problem.

[[User:satellit|satellit]] 04/30/2009
*NOTE 1: Also tried synaptic install of sugar, neither method runs correctly. sugar-emulator will not start, terminal: sugar-emulator shows errors and will not start.??

(VMworkstation 6.5.2 install (runnng Ubuntu 8,04 Hardy) and Ubuntu 9.04 VM install of Ubuntu 9.04 made 2Gb SD startup disk with persistence tested in EeePC900 both installations were updated before trying install of sugar.

Here are error messages from terminal:

robert@ubuntu:~$ sugar
root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?)
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py:19: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/keydialog.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 173, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 134, in main
cleanup_logs()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 74, in cleanup_logs
os.remove(os.path.join(root, f))
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/robert/.sugar/default/logs/1241095852/datastore.log'

sugar command Does not work from sudo either..

:The error you're getting above is because you ran it as root. Now it has some log files lying around that it's trying to use, but you don't have permission to modify them. You can do something like this to resolve that problem:
sudo chown -R robert ~/.sugar
:That will get you back to the point where you see the underlying problem, which is reported in <code>~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log</code> that has to do with dbus. See [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 here] for a possible resolution. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*Note 2: Ubuntu 9.04 USB Startup disk program makes SD which can be updated. If you add user and switch to new user, the Install icon goes away from the desktop and is now located in System Administration unlike Fedora 11 Preview where it is not removed from a user's desktop, And a system update fails.

*Note 3: sugar-emulator in terminal results in a black screen with mouse coursor. Have to Alt-Tab get out..

Talk:Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:19:43Z

Nmayhew: /* Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) */ Include link to old bug report

== Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) ==

I'm moving these comments from the main page, since I can more easily respond to them here. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[[User:nmayhew|Neil Mayhew]] 2009-07-10: I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorites_layout -t string ring-layout
I think this will be fixed by adding the right gconf schema to the package, and hopefully will be fixed in version 0.84.

There are still lots of non-fatal error messages in the terminal, but it looks like these can be ignored. I used <code>sugar-emulator --dpi=200</code>. Logging in to a Sugar session from <code>gdm</code> worked too.

Previously, it was thought that [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 a problem with Xephyr and dbus] was at fault, but the above workaround shows that it's a Sugar packaging problem.

[satellit] 04/30/2009
*NOTE 1: Also tried synaptic install of sugar, neither method runs correctly. sugar-emulator will not start, terminal: sugar-emulator shows errors and will not start.??

(VMworkstation 6.5.2 install (runnng Ubuntu 8,04 Hardy) and Ubuntu 9.04 VM install of Ubuntu 9.04 made 2Gb SD startup disk with persistence tested in EeePC900 both installations were updated before trying install of sugar.

Here are error messages from terminal:

robert@ubuntu:~$ sugar
root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?)
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py:19: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/keydialog.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 173, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 134, in main
cleanup_logs()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 74, in cleanup_logs
os.remove(os.path.join(root, f))
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/robert/.sugar/default/logs/1241095852/datastore.log'

sugar command Does not work from sudo either..

:The error you're getting above is because you ran it as root. Now it has some log files lying around that it's trying to use, but you don't have permission to modify them. You can do something like this to resolve that problem:
sudo chown -R robert ~/.sugar
:That will get you back to the point where you see the underlying problem, which is reported in <code>~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log</code> that has to do with dbus. See [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 here] for a possible resolution. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*Note 2: Ubuntu 9.04 USB Startup disk program makes SD which can be updated. If you add user and switch to new user, the Install icon goes away from the desktop and is now located in System Administration unlike Fedora 11 Preview where it is not removed from a user's desktop, And a system update fails.

*Note 3: sugar-emulator in terminal results in a black screen with mouse coursor. Have to Alt-Tab get out..

Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:16:04Z

Nmayhew: /* Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) */ Revise problem description, mentioning workaround

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[[Image:Ubuntu.jpg]]

= Sugar on Ubuntu =

The Sugar packages for Ubuntu provide a Sugar environment that is easy to install and can be configured as an X session in gdm or run in a window with sugar-emulator.

It is a much simpler platform to set up for activity developers than jhbuild, although is not bleeding-edge.

:{I might get flamed for this; I know I shouldn't post on a wiki like this, but no one will read the discussion: can we list a simple way of installing from jhbuild on Ubuntu 9.04 or installing from a PPA? Is 0.83 in the Ubuntu sugar PPA recent enough? How about installing from source (not git/jhbuild) and then adding an X session? With Ubuntu being the most popular Linux distribution, it is in the interest of this project to flesh out these details.}

Sugar on Ubuntu is packaged and maintained by the [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam Ubuntu Sugar team], who welcome new contributors to test, document, triage, and make packages.

== Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) ==

Jaunty, the current Ubuntu release, has Sucrose 0.83 packages synced from [[Community/Distributions/Debian|Debian]].

Sugar does not work out-of-the-box under Jaunty as of 2009-07-01, although there is a workaround. See the [[Talk:Community/Distributions/Ubuntu|discussion here]] for more information.

=== Installing ===

Installation instructions:
sudo apt-get install sugar sugar-activities

== Sugar on Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) ==

Intrepid, the previous Ubuntu release, has Sucrose 0.82 packages synced from [[Community/Distributions/Debian|Debian]].

=== Installing ===

Installation instructions:
sudo apt-get install sugar sugar-activities

=== Running Sugar ===

Run sugar in a window under a gnome login, using the Applications menu > Other > Sugar Emulator, or running the following in a terminal:
sugar-emulator

If everything is working fine, you can log into Sugar from the gdm login screen instead of running sugar-emulator.


=== Upgrading ===

If you are experiencing problems after upgrading from 8.04 (Hardy), please do the following to uninstall the partially-upgraded packages:
sudo apt-get purge sugar sugar-\*
and repeat the installation command outlined above to install only the new packages.

=== Reporting Bugs ===

If you need log files for debugging, use the following command in a GNOME terminal ''(not Sugar Terminal)'' to run sugar with debug logs turned on:
SUGAR_LOGGER_LEVEL=debug PRESENCESERVICE_DEBUG=1 sugar-emulator

This generates log files in the .sugar/default/logs directory under your home directory.

To report a bug on Sugar or one of the Sugar activities on Ubuntu, use the following steps:
* Go to https://launchpad.net/sucrose which represents all the Sugar components and activities supported in Ubuntu.
* Click on the appropriate component at the bottom of the page. If in doubt, click "Sugar shell" which is the base Sugar component.
* On the resulting page, scroll down to "Packages" and click on the hardy or intrepid package.
* On the resulting page, click on the "Bugs" tab at the top of the page.
* That takes you to a page listing known bugs on the package, and with a red "Report a bug" button.

Please include any relevant log files in a bug report: activity log files usually are named similarly to "org.laptop.Chat-1.log" (which is the log file for Chat). If you have run the activity multiple times in the current Sugar session, there will be Chat-2, Chat-3, etc so try to include the appropriate one.

If a problem or bug involves seeing (or not seeing) people in Neighborhood View, or activity sharing/collaboration, please also include presenceservice.log in the bug report.

'''Please note''': The Ubuntu Sugar team will do their best to provide fixes for bugs, but it does take time to get an updated package uploaded through Ubuntu's [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates Stable Release Updates] process. Where possible we'll suggest a workaround, or provide a fix in the [https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive Sugar Team PPA] first.

== Sugar on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (hardy) ==

hardy includes an old version of Sugar, 0.79. You can install the current stable release of Sugar, 0.82, with the instructions below.

For bug reporting, please follow the instructions above as for intrepid.

=== Sugar 0.79.0 ===

'''Old, but included in Hardy'''

Sugar was packaged in Universe for Hardy (Ubuntu 8.04) by Jani Monoses. The version packaged is 0.79.0, similar to the version in OLPC Release 8.1.0.

[http://janimo.blogspot.com/2008/02/sugar-finally-in-hardy-universe.html Installation instructions]

There are extra packages in a [https://launchpad.net/~sugar/+archive/ PPA], including activities that could not be included in the Ubuntu archive due to license issues, as well as updated abiword packages.

We do recommend using the version 0.82 packages instead, as mentioned below:

=== Sucrose 0.82 ===

'''Up-to-date version, extra repository'''

The Ubuntu packages were updated to the latest [[Development Team/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.82|0.82]] point release in the [https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive Sugar Team PPA].

Installation instructions:
sudo -s
echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sugarteam/ubuntu hardy main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sugar.list
apt-get update
apt-get install sugar sugar-emulator sugar-activities

Not working, tried it from Hardy Install 05/06/2009 [satellit]

= ejabberd collaboration server on Ubuntu =

We use ejabberd for a collaboration server. Ubuntu 8.10 ships with the required patches included in ejabberd, so you can install ejabberd, configure it and have working collaboration within minutes, using these installation instructions: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd/deb

For Ubuntu 8.04 you need to build from source: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd

[[Category:Supported systems]]

Talk:Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:12:48Z

Nmayhew: /* Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) */ Add info about error messages

== Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) ==

I'm moving these comments from the main page, since I can more easily respond to them here. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[[User:nmayhew|Neil Mayhew]] 2009-07-10: I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorites_layout -t string ring-layout
I think this will be fixed by adding the right gconf schema to the package, and hopefully will be fixed in version 0.84.

There are still lots of non-fatal error messages in the terminal, but it looks like these can be ignored. I used <code>sugar-emulator --dpi=200</code>. Logging in to a Sugar session from <code>gdm</code> worked too.

[satellit] 04/30/2009
*NOTE 1: Also tried synaptic install of sugar, neither method runs correctly. sugar-emulator will not start, terminal: sugar-emulator shows errors and will not start.??

(VMworkstation 6.5.2 install (runnng Ubuntu 8,04 Hardy) and Ubuntu 9.04 VM install of Ubuntu 9.04 made 2Gb SD startup disk with persistence tested in EeePC900 both installations were updated before trying install of sugar.

Here are error messages from terminal:

robert@ubuntu:~$ sugar
root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?)
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py:19: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/keydialog.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 173, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 134, in main
cleanup_logs()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 74, in cleanup_logs
os.remove(os.path.join(root, f))
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/robert/.sugar/default/logs/1241095852/datastore.log'

sugar command Does not work from sudo either..

:The error you're getting above is because you ran it as root. Now it has some log files lying around that it's trying to use, but you don't have permission to modify them. You can do something like this to resolve that problem:
sudo chown -R robert ~/.sugar
:That will get you back to the point where you see the underlying problem, which is reported in <code>~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log</code> that has to do with dbus. See [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 here] for a possible resolution. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*Note 2: Ubuntu 9.04 USB Startup disk program makes SD which can be updated. If you add user and switch to new user, the Install icon goes away from the desktop and is now located in System Administration unlike Fedora 11 Preview where it is not removed from a user's desktop, And a system update fails.

*Note 3: sugar-emulator in terminal results in a black screen with mouse coursor. Have to Alt-Tab get out..

User:Nmayhew

2009-07-10T16:08:28Z

Nmayhew: Initial creation

I am a software developer working for [http://linux.lsdev.sil.org SIL International].

Talk:Ubuntu

2009-07-10T16:07:07Z

Nmayhew: /* Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) */

== Problems running under Jaunty (9.04) ==

I'm moving these comments from the main page, since I can more easily respond to them here. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[[User:nmayhew|Neil Mayhew]] 2009-07-10: I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/sugar/desktop/favorites_layout -t string ring-layout
I think this will be fixed by adding the right gconf schema to the package, and hopefully will be fixed in version 0.84.

[satellit] 04/30/2009
*NOTE 1: Also tried synaptic install of sugar, neither method runs correctly. sugar-emulator will not start, terminal: sugar-emulator shows errors and will not start.??

(VMworkstation 6.5.2 install (runnng Ubuntu 8,04 Hardy) and Ubuntu 9.04 VM install of Ubuntu 9.04 made 2Gb SD startup disk with persistence tested in EeePC900 both installations were updated before trying install of sugar.

Here are error messages from terminal:

robert@ubuntu:~$ sugar
root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?)
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py:19: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
import sha
/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/jarabe/desktop/keydialog.py:17: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 173, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 134, in main
cleanup_logs()
File "/usr/bin/sugar-session", line 74, in cleanup_logs
os.remove(os.path.join(root, f))
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/robert/.sugar/default/logs/1241095852/datastore.log'

sugar command Does not work from sudo either..

:The error you're getting above is because you ran it as root. Now it has some log files lying around that it's trying to use, but you don't have permission to modify them. You can do something like this to resolve that problem:
sudo chown -R robert ~/.sugar
:That will get you back to the point where you see the underlying problem, which is reported in <code>~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log</code> that has to do with dbus. See [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/325706 here] for a possible resolution. --[[User:HorsePunchKid|HorsePunchKid]] 18:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

*Note 2: Ubuntu 9.04 USB Startup disk program makes SD which can be updated. If you add user and switch to new user, the Install icon goes away from the desktop and is now located in System Administration unlike Fedora 11 Preview where it is not removed from a user's desktop, And a system update fails.

*Note 3: sugar-emulator in terminal results in a black screen with mouse coursor. Have to Alt-Tab get out..