https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Petriceanu&feedformat=atomSugar Labs - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T01:07:30ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.35.2https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Design_Team/Logo_Ideas&diff=712Talk:Design Team/Logo Ideas2008-05-20T20:26:26Z<p>Petriceanu: </p>
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<div>We shouldn't change the Sugar icon. It is the central metaphor for the child on the XO and it works well w/ the other icons in the mesh view. I have changed the main XO icon on my XO to the OLE Nepal logo and then changed it back because it made the mesh view absolutely confusing.<br />
[[User:BryanWB|BryanWB]] 04:29, 10 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Right. I think that, regardless of what we chose as a logo for Sugar as an OS, it's critical to retain the XO representation for the people within the UI, at least by default. -[[User:Eben|Eben]]<br />
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Eben: I like your logo idea. It's simple and neutral and plays well with the sugar look and feel. I think that we could go with blue for the main color. A weakness of that design could be that it looks like s ugar, as if "ugar" was a word in itself. Can you also make a version with the words "sugar labs" in it? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 13:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I feel like playing into the simple stroke/fill visual style is a good way to go, since that in itself is part of Sugar's identity. I agree with your comment regarding the kerning between the 's' and the 'ugar', but played with a number of possibilities and didn't find any I liked better. Feel free to glance at my [[Media:Logo_sketches.eben.jpg|sketches]] for insight into my process, and potentially food for further discussion. I feel that the "sugar cube" logo needs the 's' when it's used alone, but perhaps we could pull the 's' out of the cube for the logotype version. Also, I was aiming to find an identity of Sugar itself; do we need a "Sugar Labs" logo independent of that? Could we license the Sugar logo under CC and simply use a logotype with "labs" appended, perhaps in a lighter gray? -[[User:Eben|Eben]]<br />
:"Labs" could just be a little word beneath "sugar". As for the kerning problem, I don't know yet how to best solve that. Do you mind putting the source file (SVG?, AI?, EPS?) online, so I can play with it a bit? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Just a thought: Why not use just the symbol with the s in it and typeset ”sugar“ and/or „sugarlabs“ additional - like f.e. the Superman-logo, it contains only an S, without uperman afterwards ... --[[User:Helga|Helga]] 19:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I like it too (as well the colour blue as new maincolour) ... --[[User:Helga|Helga]] 13:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I don't get it. What does the cube represent? And, alas, I don't think the kerning works in any of the sketchs. Can I be so bold as to suggest something along the lines of the word sugarlabs in an outline font using the line weights from the Sugar icon design rules? perhaps each letter in its own color dyad taken from the Sugar palette? --[[User:Walter|Walter]]<br />
:The cube is a "sugar cube". At least, that's the logical association intended, while attempting to retain a simple form in the Sugar icon style. I think that rendering the complete text in that style will feel quite heavy -- perhaps only the first letter? I also retain the goal of coming up with an icon ''for Sugar'', and not specifically for sugarlabs (Though a modification to the icon could certainly serve that purpose). The fact that Sugar lacks an identity seemed to be the reason this process was initiated. Finally, I think it's important, regardless of what we choose, that there is an iconic form that we can use to represent sugar without associating the word "Sugar" with it. Think of an apple with a bite, a flying window, or a penguin. These logos all stand alone, and I think we need something equally succinct. Regarding kerning, by the way, I do offer that it might be worth pulling the 'S' out of cube in the logotype, which eliminates the kerning issues, as seen in a few of the sketches. -[[User:Eben|Eben]]<br />
::I think the distinguishing feature of Sugar is collaboration. So something that suggests multiple elements working together is in part what I had in mind with the multiple letters rendered a la a Sugar icon. I don't think a Sugar cube means a whole lot. Maybe cubes in the form of a Soma puzzle might be more apropos? --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 16:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Thought of trying something [[Media:Sugarlabs_project.png|different]]. Tell me what you think. --[[User:Petriceanu|Petriceanu]]<br />
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== Sugar CRM ==<br />
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I've always thought the Sugar was an unfortunate collision in open-source namespace with the [http://www.sugarforge.org/ Sugar CRM], but there is not much you can do about that now. However, you should be careful to avoid mark confusion. Sugar CRM does have [http://www.sugarcrm.com/crm/open-source/trademark-information.html trademarks] that they can rightfully defend, including the word mark "Sugar" -- when used in the context of a Sales, Marketing or Customer Service business software application and [http://www.sugarcrm.com/crm/images/tm_images/SugarLabs.png this registered mark] (specific to the font, etc.) on a stylized "SugarLabs" logo as well as [http://www.sugarcrm.com//crm/images/tm_images/sugarcrm_tm.png this registered mark] with a cube. I'm not saying anything currently proposed necessarily interferes with their marks (I'm not a copyright lawyer), but you should be aware of their marks so as to avoid confusion, and you don't want to mess with nice guys who make a good CRM and give it away anyway. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 22:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Crowded namespace ==<br />
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'''sugar-lab.com'''<br />
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According to their web-site [http://www.sugar-lab.com/index.html sugarlab corporation] is a progressive entertainment studio that embraces both traditional entertainment and emerging media developments, including open content creation models. I don't know who Lisa Voldeng is, but I wouldn't want to mess with any of their "uberbabe superhero pantheon".<br />
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'''sugarlab.com'''<br />
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You've also got a dead page for a [http://www.sugarlab.com/ digital media studio], but probably not the same one from the whois info.<br />
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'''sugarlabs.com''' is being squatted on by a domain troll.<br />
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'''sugar-lab.net and sugarlab.net'''<br />
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gives you [http://www.sugar-lab.net/blog/ someone's blog], I think, and I can't tell what [http://www.sugarlab.net/ this is].</div>Petriceanuhttps://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=User:Petriceanu&diff=672User:Petriceanu2008-05-19T18:54:18Z<p>Petriceanu: New page: Hey! I'm new!</p>
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<div>Hey! I'm new!</div>Petriceanuhttps://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Design_Team/Logo_Ideas&diff=671Design Team/Logo Ideas2008-05-19T18:45:37Z<p>Petriceanu: </p>
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<div>Please add your logo ideas to the image gallery.<br />
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====Molecule====<br />
{| <br />
| http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Ribofuranose-2D-skeletal.png Ribose Sugar<br />
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Beta-D-glucose-3D-vdW.png Glucose Sugar<br />
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====Another Sugar Cube====<br />
This logo variation is an axonometric sugar cube with the name sugar labs wrapping around the base. The name is set in Tempo heavy Condensed.<br />
[[Image:Dk_sugar_labs_logo_v1.png]]<br />
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:May violate [[Talk:Logo-ideas#Sugar_CRM|Sugar CRM]]'s trademark.<br />
====Sugar Cube====<br />
[[Image:logo_proposal.eben.png]]<br />
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:May violate [[Talk:Logo-ideas#Sugar_CRM|Sugar CRM]]'s trademark.<br />
====Building Blocks====<br />
Here's a derivative idea, based on the "Sugar cube" proposal from before. If we consider representing Sugar as a building block, we could treat Sugarlabs as community structure composed of those blocks, emphasizing both construction(ism) and collaboration. Please note that this is a really quick sketch, and details such as size, placement, color, font, and even the rendition of the cube should be considered in detail, if this direction seems worth exploring.<br />
[[Image:sugarlabs_proposal.eben.png|left]]<br />
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====Text in pseudo-Sugar icon style====<br />
The colors and line weights need adjusting, but just to give an idea. It is simple and flexible and it intends to give the impression of multiple elements making a whole--in this case a word.<br />
[[Image:sugarlabs_text1.png|left]]<br />
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====Eye Metaphor====<br />
I considered trying something different. Our eyes are the organs we humans absorb the most information with, especially when using a computer. Also, SugarLabs may represent an eye for its users gathering information from all over the world. This metaphor was also incorporated in the rest of the suite, while each logo incorporates the function/tool it represents in a metaphorical way.<br />
An other thing that was taken into consideration is that the SugarLabs logo can be recognized/memorized easily and additionally it is functional in some cases on its own, without the need of the "SugarLabs" badge. Hope this helps<br />
[[Image:Sugarlabs_project.png|left]]<br />
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====Introduce "Lab" visual element?====<br />
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[[Image:Spoon-flask3.png]]<br />
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[[Image:sugarlabs.test-tube.eben.png]]I had taken a crack at a similar idea myself, when working with the "droplet of sugar" idea.<br />
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[[Image:SugarLabsLogo.JPG]] Just to give idea about logo based on "Sugarcane" image with SUGAR painted on it, and pieces of Sugarcane making "LABS" structure<br />
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[[Image:Lolbulb.png]] Galaxy looking lollipop w/ lightbulb,<br />
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[[Category:Design]]</div>Petriceanuhttps://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=File:Sugarlabs_project.png&diff=670File:Sugarlabs project.png2008-05-19T18:36:26Z<p>Petriceanu: </p>
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