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Walter: New page: :'''''' Good morning everyone :'''''' good morning ;) :'''''' Or afternoon to those of you on the other side of the Atlantic. :'''''' I have a few topic...

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New page: :'''<walter>''' Good morning everyone :'''<dirakx1>''' good morning ;) :'''<walter>''' Or afternoon to those of you on the other side of the Atlantic. :'''<walter>''' I have a few topic...

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:'''<walter>''' Good morning everyone

:'''<dirakx1>''' good morning ;)

:'''<walter>''' Or afternoon to those of you on the other side of the Atlantic.

:'''<walter>''' I have a few topics for today: the Lima sprint; the small deployment guide; LiveUSB

:'''<walter>''' Are there other things people want to add?

* erikos can only listen sporadically, since he has another meeting next door

:'''<dirakx1>''' nope i have only some comments but nothing further to add.

:'''<walter>''' Shall we start with the Lima sprint?

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes.

:'''<walter>''' I spoke with Hernan last night. (I don't know if he can join us today)

:'''<walter>''' He said he could arrange a meeting room with internet access at the university.

:'''<walter>''' He may also be able to arrange some lodging

:'''<walter>''' We need to get back to him regarding dates and numbers

:'''<walter>''' (I still haven't looked into changing my flight--I better to that)

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok..i have his gmail contact..

:'''<dirakx1>''' which time do you have your flight?

:'''<dirakx1>''' time/date

:'''<walter>''' Presently, I am not scheduled to arrive in Lima until mid-week.

:'''<dirakx1>''' so like 23th october?

:'''<walter>''' 11PM on the 21st.

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok..i'll make arrangements to book my flight to that also.

:'''<walter>''' I'd like to switch it to arriving Sunday night, the 19th, so we can use M/T to work

:'''<dirakx1>''' that date.

:'''<dirakx1>''' M/T ?

:'''<walter>''' There is a 3-day conference at the university beginning on Wednesday that I need to attend.

:'''<walter>''' So I though we could get started on Monday.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes the game jam!

* andresambrois (n=aa@r190-135-183-150.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #sugar-meeting

:'''<walter>''' The game jam and a FOSS meeting as well.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i've spoked to samuel. and olpc has offer to refund my tickets.

:'''<walter>''' Great.

:'''<walter>''' Will you be traveling from Colombia?

:'''<walter>''' Maybe they could sponsor Yama too?

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes.

:'''<walter>''' I think he could come if someone could take care of his travel.

:'''<dirakx1>''' olpc is going to sponsor also sebastian silva from chile.

:'''<walter>''' Great. All for the game jam too?

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah!

:'''<dirakx1>''' i don't know yama.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i'll have to ask

:'''<walter>''' So it sounds like 5-6 people for the book jam?

:'''<walter>''' Yama is in Bolivia.

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes like 5-6 people.

:'''<walter>''' I'll let Hernan know and I'll try to move my ticket to fly on Sunday.

:'''<walter>''' I'll ask Hernan to recommend lodging.

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok i can do that also.

:'''<dirakx1>''' fine..copy me on that if you can.

:'''<dirakx1>''' so we have to divide time between the jam/conf and the book sprint..

:'''<walter>''' Maybe you and I can spend a few minutes with the flossmanual translation tools before hand

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah that would be ok.

:'''<walter>''' Adam Hyde may be able to walk us through the process.

:'''<dirakx1>''' perfect

:'''<walter>''' I'll ping Adam and ask when a good time to do it would be.

:'''<dirakx1>''' nice.

:'''<dirakx1>''' do you know if other besides olpc can sponsor yama to come to Peru?

:'''<walter>''' Also, we should see if we can recruit a few locals to participate.

:'''<walter>''' I'm working on raising money for such things, but I don't have any yet.

:'''<cjb>''' Morning all.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i have received some mails from local devs, so i guess they'll join us also.

:'''<dirakx1>''' cjb: morning

:'''<dirakx1>''' walter: ok

:'''<walter>''' I'll also ping Carla to see if she may be able to join us. (She couldn't attend today's meeting as she is in the air)

:'''<dirakx1>''' i can contact claudia urrea..to meet us next time, she is in the learning team also.

:'''<walter>''' Claudia is running a workshop in Venezuela this month, I think. But for Schlumberger, not OLPC.

:'''<walter>''' But it would be great if she could join us too.

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok.

:'''<walter>''' So maybe I should ask Hernan for a room big enough for 10 people.

:'''<dirakx1>''' that seems fine to me. i guess the uni will have one to suit our needs.

:'''<dirakx1>''' any more issues related to the peru conf?

:'''<walter>''' Not that I can think of. I've written to Adam to see if there are any issues re the tools.

* aa has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

:'''<walter>''' We could try to do some prep work if people have time--generating some screen shots, etc.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah that's fine.

:'''<walter>''' My second topic is more of a question: how do we light a fire under the small deployment guide?

:'''<dirakx1>''' walter: i've pinged the educators and some pedagogical institutions about that..

:'''<walter>''' It was very clear from the Open Minds conference I attended that lots of people are interested in Sugar (and OLPC), but they don't know how to get stated.

:'''<dirakx1>''' but not much of retroalimentation yet.

:'''<walter>''' A simple step-by-step guide would be of great utility.

:'''<walter>''' I am going to try to walk a Boston public school through the process of converting a computer lab using USB keys.

:'''<walter>''' I'll try to document the process in detail.

:'''<dirakx1>''' but why can't they get started?..or what were their issues regarding to that?.

:'''<walter>''' I really believe making that as easy and painless as possible is key to their willingness to try the more ambitious deployments of laptops.

:'''<dirakx1>''' regarding live usb's that would be of great help..

:'''<walter>''' The laptop deployment is easier, because everything is prepackaged and in a known state.

:'''<walter>''' the random computer lab with a random configuration of hardware, software, and network is probably impossible

:'''<walter>''' but we'll give it a try--because the teachers are willing to take such a risk.

:'''<dirakx1>''' in a workshop we had in colombia the situation was solved working with live cds..

:'''<walter>''' but the Live USB situation is anything but stable yet.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah, i guess we need to put more work into that.

:'''<walter>''' LiveCD is great for a demo or a workshop, but not a real trial, unless there is some trick to saving user data

:'''<walter>''' DId you use the Ubuntu LiveCD? With the old Sugar bits?

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah that's the problem ..

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes..

:'''<dirakx1>''' IIRC

:'''<walter>''' The Boston trial is interesting because they want the kids to run Sugar at home too.

:'''<walter>''' The same USB key would move the data back and forth and they are very excited about having a jabber connection for the kids at home.

:'''<dirakx1>''' wow..that's cool we can extract info of great value there.

:'''<walter>''' But we are still not quite there in terms of packaging. I think we'll need to do a lot of fine-tuning, which we can document and hopefully learn from.

:'''<dirakx1>''' ok...i'm going to take a note of that ;).

:'''<dirakx1>''' i've done a little work on debian packaging but there is a lot of work to do in that field.

:'''<dirakx1>''' but back into the small deployment discussion..

:'''<walter>''' One important thing to capture are all the roadblocks people are experiencing so that we can begin to address them.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i'm expecting some retroalimentation about the work that has been happening in the field in Colombia by a pedagogical foundation.

:'''<walter>''' I've heard many, but haven't done a good job of writing them down.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i'm expecting that educators can help on that...but i think that they are not to much adjusted to wikis and irc maybe?

:'''<walter>''' Some of it is pedagogical, but most is bureaucratic.

:'''<walter>''' Yes. We need the educators' input.
:'''<dirakx1>''' bureaucratic in what sense?.

:'''<walter>''' Not wanting to change anything on the computers they already have...

:'''<dirakx1>''' ah..ok.

:'''<dirakx1>''' that's bad.

:'''<walter>''' It is what makes LiveUSB so attractive. But it is an imperfect solution.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yes, so far.

* andresambrois is now known as aa

:'''<dirakx1>''' so we need to put work into that ;).

:'''<walter>''' Greg and the Fedora team is making some progress and I think Morgan is back on the case with Ubuntu...

:'''<dirakx1>''' cool.

:'''<dirakx1>''' so..a conclusion of the meeting could be that we have to wait and keep on trying for a better feedback?.

:'''<walter>''' While we are waiting, we should be gathering data regarding potential pitfalls.

:'''<dirakx1>''' yeah..

:'''<dirakx1>''' one pitfall is that lack of understanding of communication tools..

:'''<dirakx1>''' for example IRC and wikis.

:'''<dirakx1>''' so we can start from that.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i'll put some notes on the small deployment page related to that

:'''<walter>''' OK.

:'''<walter>''' Anything else for today?

:'''<walter>''' You had some comments?

:'''<dirakx1>''' and i'll keep on pinging about feedback...and some more deeply involved besides OLPC-sur

:'''<dirakx1>''' one positive thing is that we are seeing more involvement on the OLPC-sur mailist related to teachers..so that's good.

:'''<walter>''' Yes. OLPC-Sur has been a great resource.

:'''<dirakx1>''' we will see...i think we need more time to socialize ideas and communication.

:'''<dirakx1>''' but a key subject is that the educators need to use some other resources to share their ideas.

:'''<dirakx1>''' more conferences like openmind are needed!

:'''<dirakx1>''' that's all :).

:'''<walter>''' OK. I did hear back from Adam and he can help us get started. Also, I just got my flight switched to the 20th.

:'''<walter>''' I mean the 19th.

:'''<dirakx1>''' i'll book my flight to 19th also, then.

:'''<walter>''' I'll let Hernan know and be back in touch about the Lima details.

:'''<dirakx1>''' walter: great thanks.

:'''<walter>''' OK. Talk to you all later.

:'''<dirakx1>''' bye all.

Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs - Revision history

Cjl: moved Walter is a wanker 8/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs to Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs over redirect: revert

Faggot: moved Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs to Walter is a wanker 8/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs: Walter is a wanker

FGrose: DeploymentTeam/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs moved to Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs: deCamel casing

Dfarning-bot: DeploymentTeam/MeetingLog/2008-10-01 moved to DeploymentTeam/Meetings/2008-10-01/Logs: Robot: moved page

Walter: New page: :'''''' Good morning everyone :'''''' good morning ;) :'''''' Or afternoon to those of you on the other side of the Atlantic. :'''''' I have a few topic...