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Inkyfingers: /* Discover The Undiscoverable */

2011-11-02T08:27:12Z

Discover The Undiscoverable

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	We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
			:A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! Primary idea, have you read Getting Started. Secondary idea, - finding help, the navigation bar revealed, at a primary level. This implies my initial framework is wrong. The FAQ paragraph breaks the development of these ideas, I now feel FAQ should be the third paragraph. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
	A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! Primary idea, have you read Getting Started. Secondary idea, - finding help, the navigation bar revealed, at a primary level. This implies my initial framework is wrong. The FAQ paragraph breaks the development of these ideas, I now feel FAQ should be the third paragraph. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		::all implemented except Finding help --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 04:27, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Inkyfingers: removed naive question

2011-10-30T11:14:47Z

removed naive question

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	===Most directive links aimed at new learners===		===Most directive links aimed at new learners===
	1. Study [[Getting Started]].		1. Study [[Getting Started]].
	::Is it possible to include the '''link only''' to the Floss manual, I feel the whole orange logo etc, is wrong for this part of the page.--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:20, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
	2. Sugar Labs FAQ <[[Sugar Labs/FAQ]]> - compilation of the team FAQs		2. Sugar Labs FAQ <[[Sugar Labs/FAQ]]> - compilation of the team FAQs

Inkyfingers: Thinking about layout of paragraph 1 to 3

2011-10-29T11:18:01Z

Thinking about layout of paragraph 1 to 3

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	We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

	A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! Primary idea, have you read Getting Started. Secondary idea, - finding help, the navigation bar revealed, at a primary level. This implies my initial framework is wrong. The FAQ paragraph breaks the development of these ideas, I now feel FAQ should be the third paragraph. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Inkyfingers: /* Discover The Undiscoverable */

2011-10-28T23:22:11Z

Discover The Undiscoverable

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	We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

			A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

FGrose at 16:31, 28 October 2011

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	'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.		'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.
	I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested) --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested) --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
			: These sites, http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org and http://wiki-testing.sugarlabs.org, are also available for development and testing outside of the main wiki.
	How about these for more directive headings?: --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 11:59, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		How about these for more directive headings?: --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 11:59, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
	==Find help==		==Find help==

FGrose at 16:15, 28 October 2011

2011-10-28T16:15:26Z

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	===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===		===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===
	===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===		===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===

			We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

FGrose at 15:59, 28 October 2011

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FGrose at 15:56, 28 October 2011

2011-10-28T15:56:16Z

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	I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

	How about these for ~~the~~ directive headings?:		How about these for more directive headings?:
	==Find help==		==Find help==
	===Review [[Sugar Labs/FAQ\|Sugar Labs FAQs]]===		===Review [[Sugar Labs/FAQ\|Sugar Labs FAQs]]===
	===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===		===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===
	===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===		===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===

FGrose at 15:55, 28 October 2011

2011-10-28T15:55:13Z

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	'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.		'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.
	I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

			How about these for the directive headings?:
			==Find help==
			===Review [[Sugar Labs/FAQ\|Sugar Labs FAQs]]===
			===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===
			===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===

FGrose at 15:40, 28 October 2011

2011-10-28T15:40:45Z

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			__NOTOC__
	==A newbie suggestion to remove some duplication between this page and [[Getting Started\|Get started]]==		==A newbie suggestion to remove some duplication between this page and [[Getting Started\|Get started]]==
	==Most directive links aimed at new learners==		===Most directive links aimed at new learners===
	1. Study [[Getting Started]].		1. Study [[Getting Started]].
	::Is it possible to include the '''link only''' to the Floss manual, I feel the whole orange logo etc, is wrong for this part of the page.--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:20, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		::Is it possible to include the '''link only''' to the Floss manual, I feel the whole orange logo etc, is wrong for this part of the page.--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:20, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
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	:c) The Undiscoverable <[[The Undiscoverable]]>		:c) The Undiscoverable <[[The Undiscoverable]]>

	==Less Directive==		===Less Directive===
	4. OLPC Project Help and Information		4. OLPC Project Help and Information

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	::::::I have left a section at the bottom unfinished - I did not actually check it was '''all''' duplicated. I was going to come back to the style for '''headings''', esp. in relation to Contents, depending what the finished job looked like!--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 22:16, 27 October 2011 (EDT)		::::::I have left a section at the bottom unfinished - I did not actually check it was '''all''' duplicated. I was going to come back to the style for '''headings''', esp. in relation to Contents, depending what the finished job looked like!--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 22:16, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
	:::::::Anything missed can be retrieved from one of the history pages. Messages to other editors are best left on talk pages (like this) or inline, with <nowiki><!-- inline comment --></nowiki> markup, and not on high traffic pages, unless the comments apply generally. Also please notice the edit summary comments on the history pages. Thanks for you contributions! --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 23:45, 27 October 2011 (EDT)		:::::::Anything missed can be retrieved from one of the history pages. Messages to other editors are best left on talk pages (like this) or inline, with <nowiki><!-- inline comment --></nowiki> markup, and not on high traffic pages, unless the comments apply generally. Also please notice the edit summary comments on the history pages. Thanks for you contributions! --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 23:45, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
	====Mid session review====		===Mid session review===
	Firstly on a personal note thank you, ~~Fgrose~~, for digging me out of a pickle.		Firstly on a personal note thank you, FGrose, for digging me out of a pickle.
	It was a mistake for me to try to change so much so quickly with my level of experience. It was a mistake to remove headings - my intention was to achieve a fresh start - error. Thank you for putting them back for me, and the generous general cleanup after it looked like an excavator had been in.		It was a mistake for me to try to change so much so quickly with my level of experience. It was a mistake to remove headings - my intention was to achieve a fresh start - error.
	I did see the feedback from my earlier work at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/~~go/~~Help_Requests (forgive URL for speed, I should be at work):		: No mistake. We prefer that contributors be bold. There is always the page history to help fix any problems.
			: Here is an 'Under construction' template we can insert on a page while we are making significant changes:
			{{Under construction\|--[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 11:40, 28 October 2011 (EDT)}}
			Thank you for putting them back for me, and the generous general cleanup after it looked like an excavator had been in.
			I did see the feedback from my earlier work at [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Help_Requests&action=history Help Requests history] (forgive URL for speed, I should be at work):
	'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.		'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.
	I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

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	We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		We could also rename the page to 'Find help' (to capture the title line space). This would add a bit more variety to the sidebar as well and suggest taking action instead of receiving. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 12:15, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
			:A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! Primary idea, have you read Getting Started. Secondary idea, - finding help, the navigation bar revealed, at a primary level. This implies my initial framework is wrong. The FAQ paragraph breaks the development of these ideas, I now feel FAQ should be the third paragraph. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
	A certain poetry to those sub headings, I like. Renaming the page would be good in all the ways you mention. I am also feeling, how to improve the layout of paragraph one, to reinforce the idea "Read and understand all the contents of paragraph one before being distracted by paragraph two", as in a general lesson in life! Primary idea, have you read Getting Started. Secondary idea, - finding help, the navigation bar revealed, at a primary level. This implies my initial framework is wrong. The FAQ paragraph breaks the development of these ideas, I now feel FAQ should be the third paragraph. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 19:22, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		::all implemented except Finding help --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 04:27, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

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	::::: I agree. The exploration path we would want to support might proceed from the Sidebar 'Get help' -> 'Sugar help' (Finding help information) -> 'Request help' (on A, B, C, ...) --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 18:56, 27 October 2011 (EDT)		::::: I agree. The exploration path we would want to support might proceed from the Sidebar 'Get help' -> 'Sugar help' (Finding help information) -> 'Request help' (on A, B, C, ...) --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 18:56, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
	::::::I have left a section at the bottom unfinished - I did not actually check it was '''all''' duplicated. I was going to come back to the style for '''headings''', esp. in relation to Contents, depending what the finished job looked like!--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 22:16, 27 October 2011 (EDT)		::::::I have left a section at the bottom unfinished - I did not actually check it was '''all''' duplicated. I was going to come back to the style for '''headings''', esp. in relation to Contents, depending what the finished job looked like!--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 22:16, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
	:::::::Anything missed can be retrieved from one of the history pages. Messages to other editors are best left on talk pages (like this) or inline, with <nowiki><!-- inline comment --></nowiki> markup, and not on high traffic pages, unless the comments apply generally. Also please notice the edit summary comments on the history pages. Thanks for ~~you~~ contributions! --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 23:45, 27 October 2011 (EDT)		:::::::Anything missed can be retrieved from one of the history pages. Messages to other editors are best left on talk pages (like this) or inline, with <nowiki><!-- inline comment --></nowiki> markup, and not on high traffic pages, unless the comments apply generally. Also please notice the edit summary comments on the history pages. Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 23:45, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
	===Mid session review===		===Mid session review===
	Firstly on a personal note thank you, FGrose, for digging me out of a pickle.		Firstly on a personal note thank you, FGrose, for digging me out of a pickle.
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	I did see the feedback from my earlier work at [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Help_Requests&action=history Help Requests history] (forgive URL for speed, I should be at work):		I did see the feedback from my earlier work at [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Help_Requests&action=history Help Requests history] (forgive URL for speed, I should be at work):
	'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.		'''''(Please use intrawiki link format. It's cleaner and needed for the 'What links here' wiki feature. Please prefer wiki code over HTML. Please use proper English. This is an educational institution.).''''' I apologize that I let that throw me when I then started to try to correct my work here.
	I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested)--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)		I propose to leave this for now. Is it possible that more directive style of heading could be used for the earlier sections. I have seen the style here, but now I cannot re-find the link. Why? So that the most directive links all show in a 800x600 display (untested) --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 09:17, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

	How about these for more directive headings?:		How about these for more directive headings?: --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 11:59, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
	==Find help==		==Find help==
	===Review [[Sugar Labs/FAQ\|Sugar Labs FAQs]]===		===Review [[Sugar Labs/FAQ\|Sugar Labs FAQs]]===
	===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===		===View wiki [[Special:Categories\|categories]]===
	===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===		===Discover [[The Undiscoverable]]===