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		<title>Grantbow: Request for update</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-27T01:47:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Request for update&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:47, 26 September 2010&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Current Discussion ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nothing has been edited on the StickLayout page for six months. Is there another place with more current discussion on this? -- Grantbow 20100927&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Fedora Live USB write cache ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Fedora Live USB write cache ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Grantbow</name></author>
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		<title>FGrose at 14:52, 12 March 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-12T14:52:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Fedora Live USB write cache ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;livecd Digest, Vol 59, Issue 10&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;livecd Digest, Vol 59, Issue 10&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Message: 3&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/2010-March/005740.html &lt;/ins&gt;Message: 3&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:23:46 +0000&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:23:46 +0000&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Satellit: livecd Digest, Vol 59, Issue 10  Message: 3</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;livecd Digest, Vol 59, Issue 10  Message: 3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;livecd Digest, Vol 59, Issue 10&lt;br /&gt;
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Message: 3&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:23:46 +0000&lt;br /&gt;
From: James Heather &amp;lt;j.heather@surrey.ac.uk&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Write cacheing on a live USB stick (was:&lt;br /&gt;
	Preventing access to /mnt/live (inter alia))&lt;br /&gt;
To: &amp;quot;livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org&amp;quot; &amp;lt;livecd@lists.fedoraproject.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;1268382226.32238.53.camel@oscar.bluehouse.dyndns.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Time to update you on my little experiments with write cacheing on a&lt;br /&gt;
live USB stick.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It does look as though I&amp;#039;d misunderstood what the settings&lt;br /&gt;
in /proc/sys/vm/ are for. I&amp;#039;d taken it that these just controlled paging&lt;br /&gt;
of virtual memory (hence the &amp;#039;vm&amp;#039;), i.e., writing to swap. But it seems&lt;br /&gt;
that they also control the filesystem write cache. So I have stuck with&lt;br /&gt;
ext4, and I now have in my kickstart:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        %post&lt;br /&gt;
        cat &amp;gt;&amp;gt; /etc/rc.d/rc.local &amp;lt;&amp;lt; EOF&lt;br /&gt;
        #more aggressive page writing in case of crash or power cut&lt;br /&gt;
        echo 500 &amp;gt; /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs&lt;br /&gt;
        EOF&lt;br /&gt;
        %end&lt;br /&gt;
        &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
which means that nothing is allowed to remain in the cache for more than&lt;br /&gt;
5 sec. (Strictly speaking, it is marked as dirty after 5 sec, and then&lt;br /&gt;
gets written at the next wakeup, which happens every 5 sec by default;&lt;br /&gt;
so in fact it can stay in the cache for up to 10 sec.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Experiments suggest that this works nicely. I just wrote something like&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        for ((;;)); do date; sleep 1; done | tee logfile&lt;br /&gt;
        &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and then yanked the USB stick out and rebooted it to see how much had&lt;br /&gt;
been written; it wasn&amp;#039;t ever more than a few seconds behind the terminal&lt;br /&gt;
window. The LED also flashed briefly every 5-10 sec, which is what you&amp;#039;d&lt;br /&gt;
hope.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This does seem more efficient than forcibly syncing every few seconds,&lt;br /&gt;
which will work, but will also block disk reads during the sync process.&lt;br /&gt;
It also means that the benefits of delayed allocation don&amp;#039;t get seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&amp;#039;s just hope nothing crashes during the real exam and it&amp;#039;s all&lt;br /&gt;
irrelevant!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
James&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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