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		<title>Lucian at 16:20, 13 July 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-07-13T16:20:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 12:20, 13 July 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Lucian, i&amp;#039;ve already added the python DOM bindings to pywebkitgtk that you will need in order to complete this work.  I&amp;#039;ve also recently added a wrapper script that makes the two (hulahop and pywebkitgtk) look near-identical.  You will need to bitch like mad at apple and will need to add your voice to those wishing to see the necessary glib / gobject bindings added into webkit.  If you do not, it will be believed that i am the only person who would like to see this happen and i have been treated with the utmost enormous amount of disrespect and arrogance that only a billion dollar company can muster.  see bug #16401 on webkit and bug #13 on code.google.com pywebkitgtk for the necessary patches.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Lucian, i&amp;#039;ve already added the python DOM bindings to pywebkitgtk that you will need in order to complete this work.  I&amp;#039;ve also recently added a wrapper script that makes the two (hulahop and pywebkitgtk) look near-identical.  You will need to bitch like mad at apple and will need to add your voice to those wishing to see the necessary glib / gobject bindings added into webkit.  If you do not, it will be believed that i am the only person who would like to see this happen and i have been treated with the utmost enormous amount of disrespect and arrogance that only a billion dollar company can muster.  see bug #16401 on webkit and bug #13 on code.google.com pywebkitgtk for the necessary patches.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: I&#039;ve voted on that webkit bug, that&#039;s about as much as I can do. If it doesn&#039;t get accepted, it&#039;s just annoying, not dealbreaking. Distros will manage this.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;also btw the pywebkitgtk and also the hulahop engines are actually sufficiently powerful to actually _replace_ the sugarlabs graphics engine, which is currently written in a hybrid of c and python, with pure python.  which would be very cool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;also btw the pywebkitgtk and also the hulahop engines are actually sufficiently powerful to actually _replace_ the sugarlabs graphics engine, which is currently written in a hybrid of c and python, with pure python.  which would be very cool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: It would be very cool, but sugar.graphics is a very leaky abstractions, pretty much all activities use GTK widgets too. When it gets more GTK-agnostic, web-engine would be a very interesting platform (next to Qt, Android and Swing).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Lucian</name></author>
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		<title>Lkcl: describe that python DOM bindings to pywebkitgtk have already been done</title>
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		<updated>2009-07-02T13:45:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;describe that python DOM bindings to pywebkitgtk have already been done&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Changes are supposed to be as non-invasive as possible, but some would be needed. I was thinking that since Browse is the only major consumer of Hulahop, it wouldn&amp;#039;t be a problem as long as it still worked. [[User:Lucian|Lucian]] 06:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Changes are supposed to be as non-invasive as possible, but some would be needed. I was thinking that since Browse is the only major consumer of Hulahop, it wouldn&amp;#039;t be a problem as long as it still worked. [[User:Lucian|Lucian]] 06:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Lucian, i&#039;ve already added the python DOM bindings to pywebkitgtk that you will need in order to complete this work.  I&#039;ve also recently added a wrapper script that makes the two (hulahop and pywebkitgtk) look near-identical.  You will need to bitch like mad at apple and will need to add your voice to those wishing to see the necessary glib / gobject bindings added into webkit.  If you do not, it will be believed that i am the only person who would like to see this happen and i have been treated with the utmost enormous amount of disrespect and arrogance that only a billion dollar company can muster.  see bug #16401 on webkit and bug #13 on code.google.com pywebkitgtk for the necessary patches.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;also btw the pywebkitgtk and also the hulahop engines are actually sufficiently powerful to actually _replace_ the sugarlabs graphics engine, which is currently written in a hybrid of c and python, with pure python.  which would be very cool.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Lkcl</name></author>
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		<title>Lucian at 06:23, 1 April 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-04-01T06:23:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Changes are supposed to be as non-invasive as possible, but some would be needed. I was thinking that since Browse is the only major consumer of Hulahop, it wouldn&#039;t be a problem as long as it still worked. [[User:Lucian|Lucian]] 06:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Lucian</name></author>
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		<title>Homunq: New page: I&#039;m confused. Wouldn&#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? ~...</title>
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		<updated>2009-03-31T01:09:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? ~...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m confused. Wouldn&amp;#039;t it ruin the whole idea if you had to change the Hulahop API? The idea is to make gecko/xulrunner and webkit interchangeable using an existing, standard API, right? [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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