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User:Harriska2

2010-08-23T15:47:54Z

Harriska2: Created page with 'Trying to use SOAS strictly for the typing tutor program. Some issues: Only 2 forums available: #forum.laptop.org does not contain a special place for SOAS. For a big project,...'

Trying to use SOAS strictly for the typing tutor program. Some issues:

Only 2 forums available:
#forum.laptop.org does not contain a special place for SOAS. For a big project, it should have it's own discussion area
#http://www.olpcnews.com/forum also doesn't contain a special place for SOAS. In fact, it only has about 20 posts that mention SOAS altogether

With criticism goes suggestions:
#Sugar Labs needs a forum area. One of the sections needs to be dedicated to SOAS
#Please LINK the forum to your menu on the left. Putting it under get help is clunky.

I'm putting this here because I don't want to join a list and I have no place that is obvious to post the info. Maybe someone, someday, will see it.

For now, I will fumble through trying to figure out how to stick files on my SOAS thumbdrive image. Apparently, you can't just take the thumbdrive, put it into a windows machine and copy files over. I suspect I have to use a second thumbdrive and access it through the friendly unix system and copy files over. Ugh.

Talk:Activities

2009-04-20T15:43:26Z

Harriska2:

Added the list from the homepage, with info on sugarizing...
: The catmoran scripts are more like "sugar coating", not true sugarizing (which involves making the activity sharable, etc.). We need some way to separate the two concepts. [[User:AuntiMame]] 22May08 20:11 ET

I like the term sugar coating vs. sugarizing to define them. Let's use those!
: it does seem to keep in line whit the whole glucose sucrose taxonomy. [[User:AuntiMame]]

Done - [[User:Graham]]

: Missing Turtle Typing [[User:Harriska2|Harriska2]] 15:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Activity/Application status ==

Already we are running into some problems on this page. It is not clear to the casual observer what the status of the various Linux Applications is re Sugar. How well do these applications run under Sugar? Have they been Sugarized? etc. Let's discuss here what a portal might look like that is both inclusive of Sugar Activities and Linux and Windows Applications. We'll need to consider, among other things:

stability (i.e., is this well tested or demoware?)
degree of Suagrization (e.g., does it support Journal interactions? does it play nicely as full screen? etc.)
localization
platform dependencies (e.g., does it run on all platforms that Sugar runs on equally well? are there features--such as the data-input in the Measure activity--that are specific to specific hardware?)
et al.

Other considerations are: where do I get the activity? how do I install it? Is there documentation? --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 12:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

: I was thinking of many of these things while I was adding application info last night-- that the info I was adding didn't really belong on this page. The goal for Sugar is multiple platforms(*nix, Windows, Mac, BSD, whatever-else-there-is-out-there), but the current ones are Sugarized for Fedora Linux. Not being a programmer, I assume that they can't be easily ported to another OS... and that each OS will have its own list of truly Sugarized Activities. So there should there be an Activities page for each platform. And off each platform page are sub-pages that have a chart of tested apps, apps that can be sugar coated (and a link to how to sugar coat), where to download, install instructions, etc. -- [[User:AuntiMame]] 24May08 16:11 (UTC)
:: There shouldn't be too much of an issue Sugarizing between Linux distros. But there are going to be variations in performance on different hardware--available memory being a big factor. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 18:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Deployment Team/School Key

2009-04-14T16:55:38Z

Harriska2: /* Vision of different ways the USB might work in the students environment */

* '''Note:''' Please find updated instructions to try this out on the following page: [[Sugar on a Stick]]

We will be working to deploy Sugar through bootable USB devices - www.sugaronastick.com

We are trying to get this to work at computer labs in the following Schools

* '''[[Gardner Pilot Academy]], GPA''' - Boston, Alston
* '''[[Shaw Elementary School]]''' - Boston, Dorechester

=Vision of different ways the USB might work in the students environment=

* USB based boot have and advantage because expands the Sugar experience home and to other computers outside the school.
* Thin Client type environments use fewer computers in a computer lab setting and save energy.

''Can we get the best of both worlds?''

This is a User Story about "Sasha" a fictional 2nd grader living in a fictional urban school district that has fully employed Sugar at all its elementary schools.

Sasha can access Sugar from in a wide variety of settings. I will create a different location for each type of environment. The point of this User Story is to get feedback on which of these ideas are technically feasible, and whether they are worth doing.

'''Home''': Sasha has a donated computer at home. The disk drive was removed. Sasha boots the home computer from the USB.

'''Grandma's House''': Sasha also uses Grandma's computer. Grandma's computer does not allow the Bios to be set to boot from USB, or maybe Grandma just doesn't know how to do it, so Sasha keeps a CD there. To use Sugar Sasha put in the CD, plugs in the USB and turns on the computer. The boot starts with the CD, and then the CD tells the system to look on the USB for most of the files.

'''Clinic next door to a School''' - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are seen there so they decided to add a donated computer to their waiting room just for kids to use Sugar. This computer still has its hard-drive, but it's dedicated for Sugar. Some of the basic sugar files are located on the hard drive and it is set up to allow students to log out rather then shutting down and restarting between each student.

'''The Zoo''': Sasha sometimes takes Saturday classes at the Zoo on science themes. They have a cart of sturdy laptops, with built in cameras, mics, and sensors they can plug in. Many of their programs involve taking the kids outside with the laptops. These laptops are exclusively used for the children's programs and they always use Sugar. 95% percent of the kids come in with their School USB, they have loaners for the ones who don't. The laptops are exclusively for Sugar but they still have Hard Drives and when it boots it uses some of the files on the hard drive and looks to the USB for user files. This saves boot time because the files on the hard drive save hardware configuration data and reading the hard drive is faster then reading a USB.

'''YMCA''': After school and on snow days and vacations Sasha goes to the local YMCA. There is a bank of 10 computers for kids to use. They are thin clients run from one server. There is a USB port, and the user experience is just like booting on a stand alone computer, except because it doesn't really have to fully boot for each student switching users is much faster.

'''At School''': Due to the E-Rate program Sasha's school and all the schools in tow are well connected so the schools system decided to take advantage of the economies of scale and hosts a large server centrally. In each classroom there are thin clients and a USB port. The user experience is exactly the same as at the YMCA, but in this case the server is located several miles away.

== See also ==

* [http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/ Live USB Ubuntu]

Deployment Team/School Key

2009-04-14T16:53:04Z

Harriska2: /* Vision of different ways the USB might work in the students environment */

* '''Note:''' Please find updated instructions to try this out on the following page: [[Sugar on a Stick]]

We will be working to deploy Sugar through bootable USB devices - www.sugaronastick.com

We are trying to get this to work at computer labs in the following Schools

* '''[[Gardner Pilot Academy]], GPA''' - Boston, Alston
* '''[[Shaw Elementary School]]''' - Boston, Dorechester

=Vision of different ways the USB might work in the students environment=

* USB based boot have and advantage because expands the Sugar experience home and to other computers outside the school.
* Thin Client type environments use fewer computers in a computer lab setting and save energy.

''Can we get the best of both worlds?''

This is a User Story about "Sasha" a fictional 2nd grader living in a fictional urban school district that has fully employed Sugar at all its elementary schools.

Sasha can access Sugar from in a wide variety of settings. I will create a different location for each type of environment. The point of this User Story is to get feedback on which of these ideas are technically feasible, and whether they are worth doing.

'''Home''': Sasha has a donated computer at home. The disk drive was removed. Sasha boots the home computer from the USB.

'''Grandma's House''': Sasha also uses Grandma's computer. Grandma's computer does not allow the Bios to be set to boot from USB, or maybe Grandma just doesn't know how to do it, so Sasha keeps a CD there. To use Sugar Sasha put in the CD, plugs in the USB and turns on the computer. The boot starts with the CD, and then the CD tells the system to look on the USB for most of the files.

'''Clinic next door to a School''' - A health clinic located right next door Sasha's school has a close partnership with the school. Many students are scene there so they decided to add a donated computer to their waiting room just for kids to use Sugar. This computer still has its hard-drive, but its dedicated for Sugar. Some of the basic sugar files are located on the hard drive and it is set up to allow students to log out rather then shutting down and restarting between each student.

'''The Zoo''': Sasha sometimes takes Saturday classes at the Zoo on science themes. They have a cart of sturdy laptops, with built in cameras, mics, and sensors they can plug in. Many of their programs involve taking the kids outside with the laptops. These laptops are exclusively used for the children's programs and they always use Sugar. 95% percent of the kids come in with their School USB, they have loaners for the ones who don't. The laptops are exclusively for Sugar but they still have Hard Drives and when it boots it uses some of the files on the hard drive and looks to the USB for user files. This saves boot time because the files on the hard drive save hardware configuration data and reading the hard drive is faster then reading a USB.

'''YMCA''': After school and on snow days and vacations Sasha goes to the local YMCA. There is a bank of 10 computers for kids to use. They are thin clients run from one server. There is a USB port, and the user experience is just like booting on a stand alone computer, except because it doesn't really have to fully boot for each student switching users is much faster.

'''At School''': Due to the E-Rate program Sasha's school and all the schools in tow are well connected so the schools system decided to take advantage of the economies of scale and hosts a large server centrally. In each classroom there are thin clients and a USB port. The user experience is exactly the same as at the YMCA, but in this case the server is located several miles away.

== See also ==

* [http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/ Live USB Ubuntu]

User talk:Mokurai/Earth Treasury

2009-02-18T03:00:29Z

Harriska2:

==What <strike>is</strike>WAS not in the OLPC mission?==
it seems that NN altered the goals of olpc.

This restructuring is also the result of an exciting
new direction for OLPC. Our technology initiatives will focus on:
* Development of Generation 2.0
* A no-cost connectivity program
* A million digital books
* Passing on the development of the Sugar Operating System to the community.
[* and the 0$ laptop, sak]

--- Nicholas Negroponte
(from http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4228.msg28414#msg28414)

he didn't mention "education" or even "constructivism/constructionism". sadly [[User:Sak|Sak]] 14:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Creating Textbooks ==
Hi,

I'm wondering if your textbook idea ("This will also liberate 48 US states from the domination of the textbook market by California and Texas") includes K-12? If so, do you have a spot for Direct Instruction (not direct instruction) curriculum? Any ideas on funding?
-Kathy [[User:harriska2|harriska2]]