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Talk:Development Team/0.84/Shell improvements

2008-09-09T18:37:57Z

Rmyers: add Mome view comment

==Control panel enhancements==
See my ticket #7773 about allowing arbitrary color selection for the user stroke and fill colors. Stepping through the random selector, only to decide that the best one you've seen was five back can be frustrating for the user. This also would allow a teacher to tell the kids to defer the choice, or to resolve conflicting or inappropriate choices.

Date and time should at least ''display'' the date and time, not just select the time zone.
[[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Home view==
Another inconsistency. In the Home view "Favorites", there is the XO man, and you can get to the control panel, shutdown, etc.. In the "List View", you can't. As these are two views of what is supposed to be the same location, the same options should be available. [[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 18:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

==General note==
When Apple started with the Macintosh they had a particular class of restricted applications - Apple menu items. These imposed a modality on the use of the system. Apple gradually moved away from this to a model where all apps, even if they lived on the Apple menu space, played by the same rules, and even the Finder is just another application.

I generally like the .82 redesign, but I find some of the modality frustrating. Examples:
* Alt-tab tabs away from the Control panel or Activity selection pane, but not back to it.
* The control panel is horribly modal and not consistently so. Touch the neighborhood or group button and you can see the panes in the background but not interact. Touch the home view button and nothing happens. Touch the activity button and you go to an open activity.

My feeling is 'parts is parts'. The control panel and activity selector are just activities and should be equivalent to other activities. Home should open and show the activity picker, the xo figure can have a shortcut to the control panel, but otherwise they are nothing special. I know that this supposed to make it easy for kids.But consistency is easier to learn. [[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Development Team/0.84/Shell improvements

2008-09-07T21:45:28Z

Rmyers: added control panel enhancement and general note

==Control panel enhancements==
See my ticket #7773 about allowing arbitrary color selection for the user stroke and fill colors. Stepping through the random selector, only to decide that the best one you've seen was five back can be frustrating for the user. This also would allow a teacher to tell the kids to defer the choice, or to resolve conflicting or inappropriate choices.

Date and time should at least ''display'' the date and time, not just select the time zone.
[[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==General note==
When Apple started with the Macintosh they had a particular class of restricted applications - Apple menu items. These imposed a modality on the use of the system. Apple gradually moved away from this to a model where all apps, even if they lived on the Apple menu space, played by the same rules, and even the Finder is just another application.

I generally like the .82 redesign, but I find some of the modality frustrating. Examples:
* Alt-tab tabs away from the Control panel or Activity selection pane, but not back to it.
* The control panel is horribly modal and not consistently so. Touch the neighborhood or group button and you can see the panes in the background but not interact. Touch the home view button and nothing happens. Touch the activity button and you go to an open activity.

My feeling is 'parts is parts'. The control panel and activity selector are just activities and should be equivalent to other activities. Home should open and show the activity picker, the xo figure can have a shortcut to the control panel, but otherwise they are nothing special. I know that this supposed to make it easy for kids.But consistency is easier to learn. [[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Running Linux Applications Under Sugar

2008-05-26T18:22:41Z

Rmyers: questions about 'sugarize.so' 'Sugar Coating'

Can someone verify this information?

Updated information to refer to Sugar Coating.

== Sugar Coating ==
Where's the source for the sugarize.so library?

How is this method preferable to already existing and discussed 'sugar coating' methods? Simply automation or other benefits?

[[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 18:22, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OLPC Chicago/JabberServer

2008-05-26T18:09:20Z

Rmyers: link to page on wiki.laptop.org

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Chicago/JabberServer Here's the page on wiki.laptop.org.]

Community Jabber servers

2008-05-23T00:24:18Z

Rmyers: olpchacks up as of 19:23 CDT May 22

Related Information:

*'''Get Connected''' - [[How to connect Sugar to a Jabber network]]

*'''Server Capacity''' - Jabber servers can currently only handle up to about 150 users at a time. It is best if specific communities run their own servers - by geographic region, by special interest, whether for kids/parents only or adult users...

*'''Host Your Own Server''' - To set up your own server, see instructions at [[How To Create a Jabber Server]].

=== Community Server Directory ===

If you want to publicize your server, please list it below. In "community", specify who should use this server - be as specific as possible.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! server name !! status !! community !! comments
|-
| opteron.9grid.us || up|| Austin, TX (any) || [[Xo-austin|Austin Area Jabber Collaboration Server]]
|-
| jabber.olpchacks.org || up || Chicago, IL (any) || [[OLPC Chicago/JabberServer|OLPC Chicago Jabber Server]]
|-
| chi.il.us.xochat.org || down as of 2008-05-22 || Chicago, IL (any) ||
|-
| jabber.xo-quebec.org || up as of 2008-05-22 || Montreal, Qc (any) || [http://www.xo-quebec.org/configuration-xo-quebec Québec Area Jabber Server(fr)]
|-
|nejabber.homelinux.org||down as of 2008-05-22||New England (any)|| [[OLPC New England|New England Jabber Collaboration Server]] Back up and all bugs should be fixed!.
|-
| xochat.org || down as of 2008-05-22 || G1G1 (any) || See [[xochat.org Community Server]] for more info and regional jabber servers.
|-
|school.letschange.org || up || Bainbridge Island, WA (any) || [[XOBI/SeaXo Seattle Area Jabber Collaboration Server]]. Come join us!
|-
|olpc.usjabber.org || in progress || Open to all US, Server in Vermont ||US public jabber server. Read our [[Olpc_US_Jabber|wiki page]] for more info. <br>Estimated Date of Server Completion: Friday April 19th (maybe earlier)
|-
| dc.olpc.obscure.org || up as of 2008-05-22| | Washington, DC area (any) || [[OLPC Learning Club D.C./Jabber Server|OLPC D.C. Jabber Server]]
|-
| xochat.de || || ||
|-
| ... || || ||
|-
| ''add yours above this line'' || || ||
|}

User:Rmyers

2008-05-22T22:21:10Z

Rmyers: Initial stub of user page

For now, just a link. I'm [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Rmyers here] on OLPC.

Submit Bugs/Problems

2008-05-22T20:51:55Z

Rmyers: UI Element sizes

== Please Describe Bugs & Problems Here ==

===WPA/WEP Connectivity Problems===

Hi I still have problems connecting to WPA, even with build 703 installed. I enter a password and nothing happens. Any advice?
:Hmmm. This one falls between the crack of Sugar and the OLPC network stack. Have you asked for help from the OLPC support team? --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 19:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I haven't. Maybe we should explain what questions should go to OLPC team and what goes here.
:Good point. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 20:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

===UI Element sizes===
This is more of an issue than a bug. But I don't know where else to put it for now.

As Sugar is ported to other systems, they will have screens with dimensions significantly different than the XO. On the XO the assumption is made of 1200 x 900 pix, with sugar occupying a grid of 12 x 16 elements 75 pixels square.

How will we deal with issues like screens in other aspect ratios, or where the 75 pixel element is not a practical size?
[[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 20:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(Developers: please continue to use the [http://dev.laptop.org Trac system] to report and monitor bugs.)

[[Category:General public]]

Talk:Activity Library/Devel/Roadmap

2008-05-22T20:40:49Z

Rmyers: I seemed to hit return during editting

= Categorize by XO dependency =
Since it looks like part of this effort is the idea that Sugar is going to be ported to platforms other than the XO, maybe there should be categorization of activities by whether they are dependent on specific XO features, or whether they can be used generically.

Some specific XO features:
* Mesh
* Video camera
* Microphone
* Analog input
* Screen geometry (1200 x 900 is not a standard size)
* gamepad keys (these map to numeric keypad keys, but some machines may not even have that)
* XO keyboard
* Stylus pad

[[User:Rmyers|Rmyers]] 20:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Activity Library/Devel/Roadmap

2008-05-22T20:35:58Z

Rmyers: Suggestion to categorize activities by XO depensence

Since it looks like part of this is the idea that Sugar is going to be ported to platforms other than the XO, maybe there should be categorization of activities by whether they are dependent on specific XO features, or whether they can be used generically.

Some specific XO features:
* Mesh
* Video camera
* Microphone
* Analog input
* Screen geometry (1200 x 900) is not a standard size
* gamepad keys (these map to numeric keypad keys, but some machines may not even have that)
* XO keyboard
* stylus pad