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| ==Sugar Labs meeting, Monday, 30 June 2008== | | ==Sugar Labs meeting, Monday, 30 June 2008== |
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| Attending in person: Marco Pesenti Gritti, Paul Noja, Tomeu Vizoso, Walter Bender, Carlo Falciola, Franco Lodato, Luca Ferrari, Karen Sandler | | Attending in person: Marco Pesenti Gritti, Paul Noja, Tomeu Vizoso, Walter Bender, Carlo Falciola, Franco Lodato, Luca Ferrari, Karen Sandler |
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− | Participating by [[Sugar_Labs/Meeting_Minutes-30-06-2008/irc-log|IRC (See log)]]: bernie, mostro, mk8, BryanWB, arjs, shenki, jg, cjb, reed, dwmw2, mtd, walter, marcopg | + | Participating by [[Oversight Board/Log-2008-06-30|IRC (See log)]]: bernie, mostro, mk8, BryanWB, arjs, shenki, jg, cjb, reed, dwmw2, mtd, walter, marcopg |
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| + | [[Image:Sugar-labs-meeting-milano.jpg|thumb|Sugar Labs meeting in Milano, Via Monte Napoleone]] |
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| + | ;Logs: [[Oversight Board/2008/Log-2008-06-30]] |
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| ===Governance and the Software Freedom Conservancy=== | | ===Governance and the Software Freedom Conservancy=== |
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| Karen led a discussion about the implications of Sugar Labs joining the Conservancy. The SFC is a home for FOSS projects as an umbrella organization: FOSS projects become part of the Conservancy; they get tax-free status in the US; and the projects set up a day-to-day governance structure that is generally autonomous. | | Karen led a discussion about the implications of Sugar Labs joining the Conservancy. The SFC is a home for FOSS projects as an umbrella organization: FOSS projects become part of the Conservancy; they get tax-free status in the US; and the projects set up a day-to-day governance structure that is generally autonomous. |
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− | Shenki asked a question regarding any downsides. While there is always a unilateral mechanism to spin out from the Conservancy, by joining, (1) we would be making a committed to remain a non-profit organization in regard to any project asset (funds that we might raise, any copyrights or trademarks we might own); (2) no projects have ever spun out on their own, so there may be some unknown obstacles; and (3) there would be some administrative oversight (but we need it from somewhere). | + | Shenki asked a question regarding any downsides. While there is always a unilateral mechanism to spin out from the Conservancy, by joining, |
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| + | # We would be making a commitment to remain a non-profit organization in regard to any project assets (funds that we might raise, any copyrights or trademarks we might own); |
| + | # No projects have ever spun out on their own, so there may be some unknown obstacles; and |
| + | # There would be some administrative oversight (but we need it from somewhere). |
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| The Conservancy has some concern that Sugar Labs might get so big as to incur too big of a burden for the Conservancy to pick up all administrative expenses without some mutually agreed mechanism of help from Sugar Labs. | | The Conservancy has some concern that Sugar Labs might get so big as to incur too big of a burden for the Conservancy to pick up all administrative expenses without some mutually agreed mechanism of help from Sugar Labs. |
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| A question was raised in regard to working outside of the United States (the Conservancy is a US-based 501(c)(3)); while it hasn't been a problem, if necessary, projects within the Conservancy can work with organizations elsewhere—e.g., the Conservancy could help with administration of non-US programs without having to be involved in the funding—money can be raised and stay local, under local laws. | | A question was raised in regard to working outside of the United States (the Conservancy is a US-based 501(c)(3)); while it hasn't been a problem, if necessary, projects within the Conservancy can work with organizations elsewhere—e.g., the Conservancy could help with administration of non-US programs without having to be involved in the funding—money can be raised and stay local, under local laws. |
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− | Karen made some in-line edits (mostly in the form of questions) to the Governance page in the wiki. We need to achieve a bit more clarity about a few topics, such as [[Sugar Labs/initial members list|initial membership]], terms of office, voting mechanics, etc. as part of the process of joining the Conservancy. | + | Karen made some in-line edits (mostly in the form of questions) to the Governance page in the wiki. We need to achieve a bit more clarity about a few topics, such as [[Sugar Labs/Members/List|Initial Membership]], terms of office, voting mechanics, etc. as part of the process of joining the Conservancy. |
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| ===What are we (Sugar Labs) trying to accomplish?=== | | ===What are we (Sugar Labs) trying to accomplish?=== |
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| ===Sugar Labs look and feel: a graphic design review=== | | ===Sugar Labs look and feel: a graphic design review=== |
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− | Luca Ferrari and Franco Lodato presented some designs for a “corporate identity” for Sugar Labs. The designs are [[UITeam/Logo-ideas|posted in the wiki]] for feedback. (Karen pointed out the importance of trademarks with in the context of FOSS projects.) | + | Luca Ferrari and Franco Lodato presented some designs for a “corporate identity” for Sugar Labs. The designs are [[Design Team/Logo Ideas#Designs_by_Luca_Ferrari_and_Franco_Lodato|posted in the wiki]] for feedback. (Karen pointed out the importance of trademarks with in the context of FOSS projects.) |
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| ===Sugar on mobile phones: is it possible? does it make sense?=== | | ===Sugar on mobile phones: is it possible? does it make sense?=== |
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| We do need to discuss what venues would be useful in light of reaching both the developer and user (primarily learning) communities. | | We do need to discuss what venues would be useful in light of reaching both the developer and user (primarily learning) communities. |
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| + | [[Category:Oversight board]] |
| + | [[Category:Meeting minutes]] |