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MartinDengler: /* On decision panels and procedures */ change section name

2009-10-06T03:59:37Z

On decision panels and procedures: change section name

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	* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS]] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.		* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS]] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.

	== ~~On decision panels and procedures~~ ==		== Procedures ==

	A Decision Panel (DP) is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.		A Decision Panel (DP) is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.

Walter: /* On decision panels and procedures */

2009-10-05T16:40:58Z

On decision panels and procedures

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	== On decision panels and procedures ==		== On decision panels and procedures ==

	A Decision Panel (DP) is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.		A Decision Panel (DP) is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.

	Procedures:		Procedures:

	# DP ~~carrys~~ out a discussion directly on the ~~sugar list~~, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'		# DP carries out a discussion directly on a public mailing list (i.e., iaep or sugar-devel or both, depending upon the topic), with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'.
	# ~~1-2~~ DP members volunteer to moderate the public discussion, asking people to chime in (or take side-discussions to separate threads) as needed.		# 1–2 DP members volunteer to moderate the public discussion, asking people to chime in (or take side-discussions to separate threads) as needed.
	# DP gathers people's ideas, needs, and suggestions, and a DP member records progress towards conclusions on the SL wiki		# DP gathers people's ideas, needs, and suggestions, and a DP member records progress towards conclusions on the SL wiki.
	# ~~1-2~~ DP members volunteer to edit these conclusions into a thorough report, also on that wiki		# 1–2 DP members volunteer to edit these conclusions into a thorough report, also on that wiki.
	# DP approves the final report (hopefully by consensus; by majority vote otherwise) and submits it to the SLOB		# DP approves the final report (hopefully by consensus; by majority vote otherwise) and submits it to the SLOB.

MartinDengler: /* On decision panels and procedures */

2009-10-05T16:16:07Z

On decision panels and procedures

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	== On decision panels and procedures ==		== On decision panels and procedures ==

	A Decision Panel is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.		A Decision Panel (DP) is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.

	Procedures:		Procedures:

	# ~~we carry~~ out a discussion directly on the sugar list, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'		# DP carrys out a discussion directly on the sugar list, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'
	# 1-2 ~~people~~ volunteer to moderate the public discussion, asking people to chime in (or take side-discussions to separate threads) as needed.		# 1-2 DP members volunteer to moderate the public discussion, asking people to chime in (or take side-discussions to separate threads) as needed.
	# ~~we gather~~ people's ideas, needs, and suggestions, and ~~someone~~ records progress ~~reaching~~ conclusions on the SL wiki		# DP gathers people's ideas, needs, and suggestions, and a DP member records progress towards conclusions on the SL wiki
	# 1-2 ~~people~~ volunteer to edit these conclusions into a thorough report, also on that wiki		# 1-2 DP members volunteer to edit these conclusions into a thorough report, also on that wiki
	# ~~we approve~~ the final report (hopefully by consensus) and ~~submit~~ it to the SLOB		# DP approves the final report (hopefully by consensus; by majority vote otherwise) and submits it to the SLOB

MartinDengler: /* On decision panels and procedures */

2009-10-05T16:14:25Z

On decision panels and procedures

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	A Decision Panel is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.		A Decision Panel is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.

	~~Do we need any new communications tools or lists for this? Here is my proposal~~:		Procedures:

	# we carry out a discussion directly on the sugar list, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'		# we carry out a discussion directly on the sugar list, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'

MartinDengler: add SJ's skelton procedures suggestions

2009-10-05T16:14:06Z

add SJ's skelton procedures suggestions

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	* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS]] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.		* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS]] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.

			== On decision panels and procedures ==

			A Decision Panel is expected to solicit community input, discuss (in private if necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting it. Anyone may submit advice to the panel. Decision Panels should be given a time deadline by SLOB.

			Do we need any new communications tools or lists for this? Here is my proposal:

			# we carry out a discussion directly on the sugar list, with a subject tag such as '[SOAS DP]'
			# 1-2 people volunteer to moderate the public discussion, asking people to chime in (or take side-discussions to separate threads) as needed.
			# we gather people's ideas, needs, and suggestions, and someone records progress reaching conclusions on the SL wiki
			# 1-2 people volunteer to edit these conclusions into a thorough report, also on that wiki
			# we approve the final report (hopefully by consensus) and submit it to the SLOB



	[[category:governance]]		[[category:governance]]
	[[category:decision panels]]		[[category:decision panels]]

Sj: moved Decision Panels to Decision panels: lc

2009-09-26T22:29:56Z

moved Decision Panels to Decision panels: lc

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Sj: .

2009-09-26T22:04:39Z

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	== List of decision panels ==		== List of decision panels ==

	* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.		* '''SOAS''' : A [[Decision panels/SOAS\|decision panel about SOAS]] was requested at the September 25, 2009 SLOB meeting, and asked to answer four questions.


	[[category:governance]]		[[category:governance]]
	[[category:decision panels]]		[[category:decision panels]]

Sj: size

2009-09-26T22:03:52Z

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	'''Decision panels''' are defined [[Sugar Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|in the Sugar Labs rules of governance]] as temporary bodies set up to study a specific controversial or politically sensitive issue, and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board. They are formed by a decision of the Oversight Board, generally after a call for volunteers, and given specific topics and questions to address.		'''Decision panels''' are defined [[Sugar Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|in the Sugar Labs rules of governance]] as temporary bodies set up to study a specific controversial or politically sensitive issue, and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board. They are formed by a decision of the Oversight Board, generally after a call for volunteers, and given specific topics and questions to address.

	From the Rules of Governance draft as of September 2009:		From the Rules of Governance draft [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_Labs/Governance&oldid=36444 as of September 2009]:
	~~<blockquote>~~		<div style="border:1px solid #ccc; padding:4px 4px 4px 8px; font-size:110%; background-color:white; color:#333; margin-left:30px; text-indent:30px;">
	<div style="border:1px solid ~~gray~~; padding:~~6px; margin:~~4px; font-size:80%"; background-color:white; color:#333;">
	On the rare occasion of a contentious issue on which no general consensus can be reached, the Oversight Board is responsible for convening a Decision Panel. The Oversight Board will be responsible for determining when a Decision Panel is required and for selecting members for the Decision Panel. Members of the Oversight Board are not permitted to serve on a Decision Panel. A Decision Panel will solicit community input, discuss (in private if they deem it necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting their conclusion. (Anyone may submit advice to a Decision Panel.) The Oversight Board will review and ratify Decision Panel reports.		On the rare occasion of a contentious issue on which no general consensus can be reached, the Oversight Board is responsible for convening a Decision Panel. The Oversight Board will be responsible for determining when a Decision Panel is required and for selecting members for the Decision Panel. Members of the Oversight Board are not permitted to serve on a Decision Panel. A Decision Panel will solicit community input, discuss (in private if they deem it necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting their conclusion. (Anyone may submit advice to a Decision Panel.) The Oversight Board will review and ratify Decision Panel reports.
	</div>		</div>
	~~</blockquote>~~

	== Ben on the origins of the idea ==		== Ben on the origins of the idea ==
	Ben wrote about this [[Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|during its initial discussion]]:		Ben wrote about this [[Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|during its initial discussion]]:
	<div style="border:1px solid ~~gray~~; padding:6px; margin:~~4px~~; font-size:80%">		<div style="border:1px solid #ccc; padding:6px; color:#333; margin:1px; font-size:100%; margin-left:30px; text-indent:30px;">
	As the instigator of this Decision Panel business, I should attempt to clarify the idea. My goal is to make serving on the Oversight Board as unappealing as possible. Ideally, it should be _difficult_ to find seven people willing to serve on the Oversight Board. As such, the document specifies that members of the Oversight Board _cannot_ decide controversial issues. It also specifies that members of the Oversight Board _must_ act as secretaries, taking minutes for every meeting of every committee. Oversight Board members are also prohibited from voting in any of the committee meetings, even though they must attend to take minutes (that's been part of the draft from the beginning). I hope this will be a very frustrating experience for members of the Oversight Board.		As the instigator of this Decision Panel business, I should attempt to clarify the idea. My goal is to make serving on the Oversight Board as unappealing as possible. Ideally, it should be _difficult_ to find seven people willing to serve on the Oversight Board. As such, the document specifies that members of the Oversight Board _cannot_ decide controversial issues. It also specifies that members of the Oversight Board _must_ act as secretaries, taking minutes for every meeting of every committee. Oversight Board members are also prohibited from voting in any of the committee meetings, even though they must attend to take minutes (that's been part of the draft from the beginning). I hope this will be a very frustrating experience for members of the Oversight Board.

	~~I am a firm believer~~ that the ~~worst people~~ to ~~give power are those who want it~~. ~~The~~ Oversight Board~~, as described so far, has~~ the ~~responsibility~~ of ~~keeping Sugar Labs running smoothly~~, ~~but almost no power to decide~~ the ~~interesting issues~~. ~~This makes me very happy, as~~ the Oversight Board ~~is therefore most likely~~ to ~~attract people who are interested only in keeping Sugar Labs running, not pushing a particular personal agenda, even a technical agenda. My hope is that people will~~ be ~~elected based on~~ a ~~history of being calm, focused, personable, and reasonable, not on the basis~~ of ~~any platform (they don't have the power to execute it) or technical knowledge (they can't use it)~~.		... Most technical decisions should be made on the mailing lists anyway; only issues that must be decided in order for work to continue, and on which the community is otherwise deadlocked, should be escalated to a Decision Panel. I expect the Oversight Board to be concerned almost exclusively with the mundane details of managing finances and partnerships, making sure the communications channels are open, etc. I do not want the Oversight Board to be a Court of Last Resort.

	~~I would much rather keep the technical experts _out_ of governance until a technical decision must be made that requires domain-specific expert knowledge~~. Most technical decisions should be made on the mailing lists anyway; only issues that must be decided in order for work to continue, and on which the community is otherwise deadlocked, should be escalated to a Decision Panel. I expect the Oversight Board to be concerned almost exclusively with the mundane details of managing finances and partnerships, making sure the communications channels are open, etc. I do not want the Oversight Board to be a Court of Last Resort.		... I see it as an easy lightweight system for moving political issues away from the Oversight Board. I welcome other perspectives.

	~~I still favor the presence of the Decision Panels section in the draft, but that's not surprising~~. I see it as an easy lightweight system for moving political issues away from the Oversight Board. I welcome other perspectives.
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2009-09-26T21:51:35Z

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	'''Decision panels''' are defined [[Sugar Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|in the Sugar Labs governance ~~documents~~]] as temporary bodies set up to study a specific controversial or politically sensitive issue, and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board. They are formed by a decision of the Oversight Board, generally after a call for volunteers, and given specific topics and questions to address.		'''Decision panels''' are defined [[Sugar Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|in the Sugar Labs rules of governance]] as temporary bodies set up to study a specific controversial or politically sensitive issue, and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board. They are formed by a decision of the Oversight Board, generally after a call for volunteers, and given specific topics and questions to address.

			From the Rules of Governance draft as of September 2009:
			<blockquote>
			<div style="border:1px solid gray; padding:6px; margin:4px; font-size:80%"; background-color:white; color:#333;">
			On the rare occasion of a contentious issue on which no general consensus can be reached, the Oversight Board is responsible for convening a Decision Panel. The Oversight Board will be responsible for determining when a Decision Panel is required and for selecting members for the Decision Panel. Members of the Oversight Board are not permitted to serve on a Decision Panel. A Decision Panel will solicit community input, discuss (in private if they deem it necessary), reach a conclusion internally, and produce a report documenting their conclusion. (Anyone may submit advice to a Decision Panel.) The Oversight Board will review and ratify Decision Panel reports.
			</div>
			</blockquote>

	== Ben on the origins of the idea ==		== Ben on the origins of the idea ==

Sj: links

2009-09-26T21:50:12Z

links

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	Decision panels are ~~definied~~ in the SL governance documents as bodies set up to study controversial or politically sensitive ~~issues~~ and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board.		'''Decision panels''' are defined [[Sugar Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|in the Sugar Labs governance documents]] as temporary bodies set up to study a specific controversial or politically sensitive issue, and produce a report about their conclusions as a recommendation to the Oversight Board. They are formed by a decision of the Oversight Board, generally after a call for volunteers, and given specific topics and questions to address.

	== Ben on the origins of the idea ==		== Ben on the origins of the idea ==
	Ben wrote about this during its initial discussion:		Ben wrote about this [[Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance#Decision Panels\|during its initial discussion]]:
	<div style="border:1px solid gray; padding:6px; margin:4px; font-size:80%">		<div style="border:1px solid gray; padding:6px; margin:4px; font-size:80%">
	As the instigator of this Decision Panel business, I should attempt to clarify the idea. My goal is to make serving on the Oversight Board as unappealing as possible. Ideally, it should be _difficult_ to find seven people willing to serve on the Oversight Board. As such, the document specifies that members of the Oversight Board _cannot_ decide controversial issues. It also specifies that members of the Oversight Board _must_ act as secretaries, taking minutes for every meeting of every committee. Oversight Board members are also prohibited from voting in any of the committee meetings, even though they must attend to take minutes (that's been part of the draft from the beginning). I hope this will be a very frustrating experience for members of the Oversight Board.		As the instigator of this Decision Panel business, I should attempt to clarify the idea. My goal is to make serving on the Oversight Board as unappealing as possible. Ideally, it should be _difficult_ to find seven people willing to serve on the Oversight Board. As such, the document specifies that members of the Oversight Board _cannot_ decide controversial issues. It also specifies that members of the Oversight Board _must_ act as secretaries, taking minutes for every meeting of every committee. Oversight Board members are also prohibited from voting in any of the committee meetings, even though they must attend to take minutes (that's been part of the draft from the beginning). I hope this will be a very frustrating experience for members of the Oversight Board.