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	:'''<erikos>''' walter: i am ok as well to upload my face ;p		:'''<erikos>''' walter: i am ok as well to upload my face ;p
	:'''<dirakx>''' walter are you thnking in something like the [[profiles]] page on wiki.laptop.org ?		:'''<dirakx>''' walter are you thnking in something like the [[Community/profiles]] page on wiki.laptop.org ?
	:'''<dirakx>''' http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Profiles		:'''<dirakx>''' http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Profiles
	:'''<walter>''' great		:'''<walter>''' great

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	:'''<walter>''' not critical...		:'''<walter>''' not critical...
	:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important		:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important
			:'''<walter>''' the first step would be to make a clear distinction between the xo-icon and my-icon in the codebase
			:'''<walter>''' not critical...
			:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important
			:'''<tomeu>''' walter: do you have already an idea of what changes in the journal UI are most urgent?
			:'''<tomeu>''' everybody seems to have a different idea each ;)
			:'''<walter>''' @tomeu: the most important things in my mind are: robustness; easier access to journal items (e.g., access from the home page); and a better way of managing the data as it grows.
			:'''<walter>''' Robustness is really the datastore
			:'''<walter>''' I think the discussion about tags is a good way to address the management issues
			:'''<walter>''' but I think the bulk of the journal "spam" as Albert likes to call it, comes from the fact that people don't access the Journal more directly--we need to make it an extension of the homepage.
			:'''<tomeu>''' yeah, we see some consensus growing on that
			:'''<tomeu>''' I think we definitely should get that one for 9.1
			:'''<walter>''' I had some UI ideas that Eben/Pentagram never liked about making the journal a direct extension of the Frame
			:'''<tomeu>''' 0.84
			:'''<tomeu>''' oh, haven't heard about it
			:'''<walter>''' Just like the clipboard is always there, relevant journal entries could always be there
			:'''<tomeu>''' some kind of "recent documents"?
			:'''<walter>''' yeah.
			:'''<walter>''' or recent objects, once you are in an activity
			:'''<walter>''' Eben I think wanted to do this with a tray instead
			:'''<tomeu>''' I'm not sure we'll have much time to do changes in the journal UI for 0.84
			:'''<tomeu>''' so we should choose well what gives most for the price
			:'''<walter>''' I don't expect that level of change, but I think the datastore ideas from last January could support this model
			:'''<tomeu>''' for now, I think the tags stuff is too much for 0.84 unless someone volunteers to help
			:'''<walter>''' When we think about what we optimize in terms of access...
			:'''<tomeu>''' walter: yup, increasing query performance is one of the main goals of the rewrite
			:'''<tomeu>''' we are already much better and can improve significantly
			:'''<tomeu>''' more
			:'''<walter>''' That's going to make a huge difference... the foundation has to be there first.

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:'''<walter>''' I realize we didn't publicize the deployment meeting
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:'''<walter>''' hey rafael
:'''<walter>''' I don't think we did a good job of reminding people of this meeting.
:'''<dirakx>''' walter: hi..
:'''<dirakx>''' yes i think is better to do it next week?
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:'''<dirakx>''' walter: i mean in order to get more people involved.
:'''<walter>''' Yes. Next Wednesday, same time?
:'''<dirakx>''' yep..
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:'''<walter>''' I'll try to remember to advertise on the weekend Digest
:'''<walter>''' hey Simon
:'''<dirakx>''' walter i'll also write an emailk about it..
:'''<erikos>''' walter: hey - do we have a meeting today?
:'''<walter>''' we were just discussing this. We didn't get the word out, so we don't have a quorum.
:'''<walter>''' we'll postpone until next week.
:'''<erikos>''' oh ok, would it have been deployments one?
:'''<dirakx>''' erikos: yep
:'''<erikos>''' aha ok
:'''<dirakx>''' i think it's better, we are just starting to get things together ;)
:'''<walter>''' Meanwhile, I am in the midst of writing a grant proposal... for outreach, including some needed engineering...
:'''<tomeu>''' nice
:'''<dirakx>''' walter: in the same page we are using for that?
:'''<walter>''' dirakx: I don't understand the question
:'''<dirakx>''' walter: doh i misunderstood, that sorry
:'''<walter>''' Well, I am going to get back to writing. I think I need to really focus on getting lots of applications in play ASAP.
:'''<tomeu>''' ;)
:'''<tomeu>''' let the paper flow!
:'''<walter>''' One question on the application I am writing now is about any images or multimedia we might have.
:'''<walter>''' I wonder if the video we put together for the MOMA exhibit would work.
:'''<walter>''' I'll have to ask Eben.
:'''<walter>''' Any other thoughts?
:'''<tomeu>''' walter: he's in #sugar now
:'''<tomeu>''' other than what is in the wiki and manuals, no
:'''<walter>''' Also, another idea I had that is related to deployment: Sugar Labs has no human face...
:'''<walter>''' what if we make a page which is a matrix of faces: developers, teachers, children
:'''<walter>''' we can ask everyone to upload pictures
:'''<walter>''' I guess the silence is an indication that there isn't much interest in the idea
:'''<dirakx>''' that gets me to another idea of having something like about sugar with the names and faces? of all the devs and others. .
:'''<walter>''' something to give it a human side
:'''<dirakx>''' i like the idea ;). though i dont now about the others..
:'''<dirakx>''' now/know.
:'''<walter>''' I'll float it this weekend.
:'''<tomeu>''' walter: sounds good to me
:'''<tomeu>''' yup
:'''<walter>''' should we just make a "galley" in the wiki?
:'''<walter>''' ^galley^gallery
:'''<erikos>''' walter: i am ok as well to upload my face ;p
:'''<dirakx>''' walter are you thnking in something like the [[profiles]] page on wiki.laptop.org ?
:'''<dirakx>''' http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Profiles
:'''<walter>''' great
:'''<walter>''' but maybe simpler
:'''<walter>''' Just a picture...
:'''<walter>''' and a link to a User page if there is one
:'''<walter>''' Wanna sketch it out on Sugar Labs?
:'''<dirakx>''' yep why not..
:'''<walter>''' Think we could get kids and teachers to post?
:'''<dirakx>''' i could send an email to Sur asking, we will see how it goes ;).
:'''<walter>''' Let'
:'''<walter>''' s prepare the page first
:'''<tomeu>''' I guess some teachers from uy will be favorable
:'''<walter>''' so they have somewhere to go
:'''<tomeu>''' although they are just starting to participate
:'''<dirakx>''' tomeu: yes.
:'''<dirakx>''' some suggesiotns about how the page should be named?
:'''<walter>''' profiles is fine... just something more simple than the OLPC version
:'''<dirakx>''' ok
:'''<walter>''' thanks.
:'''<erikos>''' tomeu: will you wear a black or a red shirt?
:'''<tomeu>''' hmm, not sure
:'''<tomeu>''' I guess it depends on which one is in the washing machine :p
:'''<erikos>''' :p
:'''<erikos>''' some of the pictures at olpc site are a bit scary - hope we don't scare people away
:'''<erikos>''' maybe everyone should draw an animal, instead :)
:'''<walter>''' For those who have customized their Sugar icon, maybe they could include that?
:'''<walter>''' Speaking of which, I need to write up a ticket for making the user icon a separate file from the xo icon.
:'''<erikos>''' oh yeah - heard that changing the sugar icon is on vogue
:'''<walter>''' I documented it in Modifying Sugar in the Sugar manual...
:'''<walter>''' but OLPC didn't include that chapter in the Help manual
:'''<walter>''' But the granularity of control is not quite correct
:'''<walter>''' MyIcon.py lets you modify the homeview, but not your icon in any other view
:'''<erikos>''' oh, the manual in the help activity does only include a portion
:'''<dirakx>''' erikos: i agree some pictures in those profiles are too geeky even for me taste ;).
:'''<walter>''' computer-xo.svg modifies it everywhere, including places it shouldn't
:'''<erikos>''' yeah modifying the computer-xo icon is not the right way
:'''<walter>''' that was the method advertised in OLPCNews a few months ago.
:'''<erikos>''' we once had early code for that
:'''<erikos>''' since you would ideally send the image as well around when
:'''<erikos>''' to appear on the other's mesh view
:'''<erikos>''' but this would need quite some effort, actually - to make it happen
:'''<walter>''' sorry: I had to step away for a phone call.
:'''<walter>''' It could be staged: change it on your machine and then change it on the network...
:'''<walter>''' I had built a parametrized XO that with a few extra bytes let the XO change over the mesh...
:'''<erikos>''' sure, it is true that you could stage the task
:'''<erikos>''' how critical is it, i wonder?
:'''<walter>''' the first step would be to make a clear distinction between the xo-icon and my-icon in the codebase
:'''<walter>''' not critical...
:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important