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Frustrating

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	* Quiet people didn't talk because we didn't ask them what they thought.		* Quiet people didn't talk because we didn't ask them what they thought.
	* Long distance collaborators had a hard time on the phone.		* Long distance collaborators had a hard time on the phone.
			:* Seconded. As a remote participant, I found it was hard to get attention during sometimes heated conversation. It was hard to stay focussed. It was hard to know what was happening and when (schedule changes etc). --[[User:Morgs\|Morgs]] 14:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
	* The relationship between OLPC and Sugar Labs remains unresolved.		* The relationship between OLPC and Sugar Labs remains unresolved.
	* We didn't go into details on why we get frustrated with each other.		* We didn't go into details on why we get frustrated with each other.

Mokurai: /* Frustrating */ Possibilities

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Frustrating: Possibilities

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	* Good ideas got interrupted by other good ideas.		* Good ideas got interrupted by other good ideas.
	* Organizing this talk caused a lot of conflict within/with OLPC.		* Organizing this talk caused a lot of conflict within/with OLPC.

			==Possiblities==

			* Create ongoing conference committee, and assign specific duties well before events (Conf. chair, venue, food, program, speakers, sponsors, A/V, moderators, funding,...)
			* Ask for use of World Bank teleconferencing network (80 locations around the world) [I have some experience with this--[[User:Mokurai\|Mokurai]] 03:57, 24 November 2008 (UTC)]
			* Bigger conference with more people and multiple sessions divided into tracks (some selection from topics like Constructionism, Activities, Glucose, Health, Textbooks, Content, Localization, Translation, Outreach...)
			* Bring in teachers, researchers from education schools, subject matter experts, children!,...
			* Field trips to schools using XOs

Bernie at 07:45, 23 November 2008

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	== Interesting ==		== Interesting ==

	* 15 hour days, 6 days in a row...		* 15 hour days, 6 days in a row... cause people to break down
	* We need better organizers than me next time. (said by Bernie)		* We need better organizers than me next time. (said by Bernie)
	* One week passes by very quickly!		* One week passes by very quickly!

Marcopg: /* Interesting */

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Interesting

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	* Our schedule was very dynamic.		* Our schedule was very dynamic.
	* There was a mix between OLPC and Sugar Labs discussions.		* There was a mix between OLPC and Sugar Labs discussions.
	* Walter was coding instead of listening during some sessions.		* Walter was coding instead of listening during some sessions! (kidding)
	* This is actually the second Sugarcamp - the first was in Italy about 6 months ago.		* This is actually the second Sugarcamp - the first was in Italy about 6 months ago.
	* We did not do much hacking.		* We did not do much hacking.

Marcopg at 07:07, 23 November 2008

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	Please add your thoughts inline on this page, and discuss on the [[Talk:Sugarcamp/Feedback]] page if you need to reach consensus on how to phrase a certain point. Thanks! [[User:Mchua\|Mchua]] 06:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC) (Original reflections are a collaboration by Bernie Innocenti, Walter Bender, Tomeu Vizoso, Ben Schwartz, David Farning, Chris Ball, and Mel Chua.)		Please add your thoughts inline on this page, and discuss on the [[Talk:Sugarcamp/Feedback]] page if you need to reach consensus on how to phrase a certain point. Thanks! [[User:Mchua\|Mchua]] 06:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC) (Original reflections are a collaboration by Bernie Innocenti, Walter Bender, Tomeu Vizoso, Marco Pesenti Gritti, Ben Schwartz, David Farning, Chris Ball, and Mel Chua.)

	== Awesome ==		== Awesome ==

Mchua: New page: Please add your thoughts inline on this page, and discuss on the Talk:Sugarcamp/Feedback page if you need to reach consensus on how to phrase a certain point. Thanks! ~~~~ (Original re...

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New page: Please add your thoughts inline on this page, and discuss on the Talk:Sugarcamp/Feedback page if you need to reach consensus on how to phrase a certain point. Thanks! ~~~~ (Original re...

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Please add your thoughts inline on this page, and discuss on the [[Talk:Sugarcamp/Feedback]] page if you need to reach consensus on how to phrase a certain point. Thanks! [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 06:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC) (Original reflections are a collaboration by Bernie Innocenti, Walter Bender, Tomeu Vizoso, Ben Schwartz, David Farning, Chris Ball, and Mel Chua.)

== Awesome ==

* It happened!
* Lots of people came.
* We met some extraordinary people.
* We have some new partners now.
* We had really nice meeting rooms.
* The TurtleArt portfolio demo was cool!
* The Infrastructure team got "unstuck."
* Bringing people together created a lot of energy.
* We actually can do this [run Sugarcamp]!
* What we have now [in Sugar as a product] is better than what we admit.
* We met existing volunteers.
* We met new volunteers.
* We got to hear very different points of view.
* This week was inspiring!
* We had fun people like Bernie and Yama.
* We stepped forward on technical problems.
* We met [Sugar] deployers like Caroline and Brendan.
* We increased clarity about OLPC funding.
* We got to spend time with colleagues.
* We have a better definition of OLPC vs Sugar Labs responsibilities.
* We got to resolve some issues in person [that we weren't able to resolve online].
* We got a better picture of our social interactions.
* Some people developed a lot as leaders this week, like Bernie stepping up to run Sugarcamp.
* We got to see our own dysfunctional habits.
* Ryan's speech about Sugar Labs solving a very hard problem that is "the future of computing" was inspiring.
* Gregdek standing up and trying to get us all to work together was awesome.
* The OLPC/Sugar Labs umbilical cord was cut.

== Interesting ==

* 15 hour days, 6 days in a row...
* We need better organizers than me next time. (said by Bernie)
* One week passes by very quickly!
* Our sessions were conducted in a hybrid format between roundtables and conferences.
* Our schedule was very dynamic.
* There was a mix between OLPC and Sugar Labs discussions.
* Walter was coding instead of listening during some sessions.
* This is actually the second Sugarcamp - the first was in Italy about 6 months ago.
* We did not do much hacking.
* Everyone was optimizing their own time during the conference; sometimes this meant not listening to the speaker [and working on their laptop or having side conversations instead].
* "Useful for kids" is our equivalent of "Because I Said So." We say it when we don't want people to argue with us any more.
* We focus when we make something together, like when we took notes together on the whiteboard.
* Dfarning was a good cop.
* If we fix the problem of long-distance collaborators participating in Sugarcamp, we'll also fix the problem of quiet people not talking.

== Frustrating ==

* Too many unfocused interruptions.
* The schedule slipped due to untimed talks.
* People escaped points of disagreements.
* The pizza was unreliable.
* Action items didn't come out of technical BS (brainstorms).
* The OLPC roadmap session was frustrating because it didn't leverage the Sugar Labs community.
* Few people were able to contribute.
* The schedule changed a lot.
* At the beginning of the week, there were some difficulties between people.
* There was disrespect between some people.
* Infinite arguments.
* Some people still think there are "sides."
* Premature optimization.
* "Smartest kid in the room" syndrome (a.k.a. Apollo Syndrome)
* Quiet people didn't talk because we didn't ask them what they thought.
* Long distance collaborators had a hard time on the phone.
* The relationship between OLPC and Sugar Labs remains unresolved.
* We didn't go into details on why we get frustrated with each other.
* Good ideas got interrupted by other good ideas.
* Organizing this talk caused a lot of conflict within/with OLPC.