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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Add notes from today&amp;#039;s impromptu MBv4 meeting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Notes from impromptu MBv4 meeting with Walter, Devin, and Anindya&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Topics discussed ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Restrictions we may introduce ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Restrictions on nesting&lt;br /&gt;
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No more notes inside of notes inside of notes. (Q: How many levels is appropriate?)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Debugging ====&lt;br /&gt;
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The user wants to know &amp;quot;What is this thing, and why doesn&amp;#039;t it work?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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We don&amp;#039;t we have very good debugging tools.&lt;br /&gt;
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===== Visualization =====&lt;br /&gt;
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We need to be able to visualize things in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be able to see things as a timeline would help debugging.&lt;br /&gt;
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Discussion: Perhaps we start the user with a phrase maker widget, and perhaps we add a timeline -- either a piano roll or standard notation? &lt;br /&gt;
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===== Examples =====&lt;br /&gt;
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Examples of indeterministic music in Music Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
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* Galton Box&lt;br /&gt;
* Random number generator&lt;br /&gt;
* Video game music (Referenced: https://www.nprillinois.org/2023-02-06/composer-stephanie-economou-wins-first-ever-grammy-in-video-game-music-category)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Note duration ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Duration needs to be predictable&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tempo can be indeterminate&lt;br /&gt;
* Box will still work within note value&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Syntax ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Syntax may have to change a little bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: Change in what way?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pikurasa</name></author>
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