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		<title>Walter at 20:30, 7 September 2018</title>
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		<title>Walter: Created page with &quot;&lt;walterbender&gt; any slob members around? &lt;llaske&gt; Hi Walter * perrie (~perriefid@197.210.227.128) has joined &lt;walterbender&gt; just two of us so far... * ibiam (~myirc@197.210.227...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; any slob members around? &amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Hi Walter * perrie (~perriefid@197.210.227.128) has joined &amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; just two of us so far... * ibiam (~myirc@197.210.227...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; any slob members around?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Hi Walter&lt;br /&gt;
* perrie (~perriefid@197.210.227.128) has joined&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; just two of us so far...&lt;br /&gt;
* ibiam (~myirc@197.210.227.236) has joined&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; not sure if we will have a quorum today but we can get started nonetheless&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; the meeting bot is not working... but...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #start-meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Welcome everyone&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Hi walterbender&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Hi ibiam&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Hi llaske&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; An aside: My 5-yr-old grandson just made his first entirely independent Turtle Blocks project :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt; Hi&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; His name is Ted and he talk the turtle to make a T&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Great&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt; Awesome 😎&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Figured it out on his own.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; He has been doing some Music blocks with me... we are transcribing the Pokeman song :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #topic GSoC wrapup&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We had 12 interns this summer. 11 passed.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We had some nice results on Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Python 3, GTK-3 ports, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Oh didn&amp;#039;t know one miss&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ve integrated work from Mankirat and Aman in Sugarizer&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Lack of serious effort&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I haven&amp;#039;t merged the MB work yet, only because we have so many other things changing right now.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Lots of UX clean up and simplification&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; llaske, that&amp;#039;s great&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; I think we should measure integration of works each year. It was a question in the form sent by Google&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Good evening all.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; The GDK3 work has landed&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; and the Python3 work is near completion&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; *Sorry, Hi all (timezones)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; llaske, I think we have a pretty good record there&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Activity release is ongoonb&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; *on going&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Sure but it&amp;#039;s always good to have an objective view of it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; sure&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt;  Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; In general, we need to be more disciplined with mentoring. It was very uneven&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; walterbender, agreed&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; A few other notes re GSoC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Some project had no technical mentor, it&amp;#039;s a mistake for GSoC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We have three reps going to the Mentor Summit next month. One traveling from India, two from the Stats.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; so the budget from Google should suffice.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Good. Is Jaskirat Visa validated ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Nice&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Great&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; As always these things are a bit complicated for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; but we managed.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Current US administration don&amp;#039;t help...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; No comment.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I need to focus on the positive&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; +1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; speaking of positive,...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #topic GCI&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Seems we have interest in enough developers to apply for GCI again&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I will ask via email for SLOB approval&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Yes but as James said, we need to be vigilant regarding mentors selection&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Agreed.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; I think we do have enough GCI developers willing to participate&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; Agreed&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We have a broader set of topics for GCi&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; perrie, for example, can help with the design tasks&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Interesting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; but we need to ensure mentors for each task (not just walter)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; no mentor, no task&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I will be very strict this year&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; okay, I thought it was the case last year&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; +1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; It was, but often the mentor was not around&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We did have some very responsive mentors on some off-topic tasks as well.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pro-Panda (2a6befb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.107.239.178) has joined&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; the node,js tasks were popular and well mentored, but we never made a good connection to Sugar&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I thought it would lead to some connections with MB and/or Sugarizer, but it never did&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; yes, sure. On my side, this year I&amp;#039;ve got the Sugarizer Tutorial that could be a good introduction&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We need to make sure beginner tasks lead somewhere&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I have a long list of things needing to be done for the Japan deployment&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Okay, I&amp;#039;ve got lot of bugs on Sugarizer too&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Pro-Panda&amp;gt; There can be plenty of beginners tasks in sugar activities&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; +1 walterbender. The beginner tasks last time was just on nehtral basics, more like a hit and run thing&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Anyway, with SLOB approval, i will move forward on our application.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; We&amp;#039;ll do a review of task before starting to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Cool&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Note that everything is beginning in October this year, not November...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We need to move quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt; +1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ibiam&amp;gt; llaske, every task is only published once the admin approves it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Okay I see.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; It&amp;#039;s better to begin in October to avoid working during Christmas :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt; 😂&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #action Walter to ask for SLOB approval for applying to GCI via email&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Can we also have more admins to hasten things up in terms of tasks approval.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #topic design team meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Pro-Panda&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;d like to volunteer as a co-admin if there is space&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; We have a lot of interesting design proposals in the wind.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Design team! Had this at the back of my mind for a very long time&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Pro-Panda, I thjnk we have covered, but I would love your participation as a mentor&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Where can we see it ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; there are several kicking around... one from last year&amp;#039;s Gci regarding colored icons&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; one more recent for perrie &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Pro-Panda&amp;gt; walterbender: sure&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I asked perrie if she&amp;#039;d organize a design meeting sooner than later&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; it may inspire some GCI tasks as well&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;perrie&amp;gt; Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; This is just a heads up that we&amp;#039;ll be scheduling a meeting soon&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Before the meeting, a call for expression of interest might also help in boosting the attendance because they are inactive member on the design team list right now&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #action perrie to schedule a design team meeting and invite #sugar-devel&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; that is it for me for topics.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; Anyone else?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; Not on my side&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Pro-Panda&amp;gt; Nothing from me&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;samsongoddy&amp;gt; Hello&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Nothing from my end.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Ifeanyi_&amp;gt; Hi @samsongoddy&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; ok. I guess we are done&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; #end-meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; thanks everyone&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;llaske&amp;gt; How to publish log on the site without bots ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;walterbender&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ll cut and paste into the wiki.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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