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Inkyfingers: In common no Debian installer, Aptitude reports no problems.

2012-07-01T11:28:40Z

In common no Debian installer, Aptitude reports no problems.

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	I have seen this behaviour several times in Debian, I now have it reproduceable in two instances.		I have seen this behaviour several times in Debian, I now have it reproduceable in two instances.
	Previous instances have been fixed or ameliorated by adding further packages in a haphazard way till the problem is eliminated.		Previous instances have been fixed or ameliorated by adding further packages in a haphazard way till the problem is eliminated.

			These two instances have in common that Debian installer has not been used.

	Similar behaviour (different cause - GTK3) is described with a fix here: [[Community/Distributions/Debian#GTK3_in_Debian_Testing]]		Similar behaviour (different cause - GTK3) is described with a fix here: [[Community/Distributions/Debian#GTK3_in_Debian_Testing]]
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	==== Instance 1. ====		==== Instance 1. ====
			The login manager is SLiM and desktop environment Openbox.
			A fresh install of Debian Squeeze with Sugar installed from Debian repos, via Synaptic, sugar-0.88, sugar-session-0.88, and sucrose-0.88

	~~A fresh install of Debian Squeeze with Sugar installed from Debian repos, via Synaptic, sugar-0~~.~~88, sugar-session-0.88, and sucrose-0.88~~		Aptitude reports no problems.

	This, from Sugar environment:		This, from Sugar environment:
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	==== Instance 2.====		==== Instance 2.====

			There is no login manager (startx) desktop is LXDE.
	A new install of sweets on a Raspberry pi		A new install of sweets on a Raspberry pi

	OS: a Debian clone, ''rpi_pisces'' Hard Float (armhf), testing, image from http://www.raspbian.org/PiscesImages		OS: a Debian clone, ''rpi_pisces'' Hard Float (armhf), testing, image from http://www.raspbian.org/PiscesImages

			Aptitude reports no problems.

	This, from Sugar environment:		This, from Sugar environment:

Inkyfingers: Define Bug / problem

2012-06-23T14:17:29Z

Define Bug / problem

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	As this seems to me to be a hurdle to Debian users, I am asking for help in resolving:		As this seems to me to be a hurdle to Debian users, I am asking for help in resolving:

	Is this a symptom of either, partially installed, or partially accessible libraries. If so which libraries and why?		==== Definition of Bug / problem ====

			One variant of Sugar launches with errors, while trying another variant in the same environment results in invisible icons,'''

			''Is this a symptom of either, partially installed, or partially accessible libraries. If so which libraries and why?''

	==== Instance 1. ====		==== Instance 1. ====

Inkyfingers: Request for help - is this a Debian bug?

2012-06-23T13:36:02Z

Request for help - is this a Debian bug?

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Is this a bug or is it me?

I have seen this behaviour several times in Debian, I now have it reproduceable in two instances.
Previous instances have been fixed or ameliorated by adding further packages in a haphazard way till the problem is eliminated.

Similar behaviour (different cause - GTK3) is described with a fix here: [[Community/Distributions/Debian#GTK3_in_Debian_Testing]]

As this seems to me to be a hurdle to Debian users, I am asking for help in resolving:

Is this a symptom of either, partially installed, or partially accessible libraries. If so which libraries and why?

==== Instance 1. ====

A fresh install of Debian Squeeze with Sugar installed from Debian repos, via Synaptic, sugar-0.88, sugar-session-0.88, and sucrose-0.88

This, from Sugar environment:

::About my computer:
::Build: Debian 6.0.5
::Sugar: 0.88.1

'''95% working, sugar-emulator:'''

Views: F1 to F4 work, no F5 + F6.

To display frame requires impossibly accurate positioning of cursor in corner, or ''Frame, Activation-Delay, Edge-to-instantaneous'' in settings.
All tested Activities have worked except Turtle Art, Etoys and Write.
: This is a fresh install - I am (fairly) confident all Activities could be got working eventually - this is not the issue.

'''Less working, sugar-session:'''

No F1, F2, F4.

F3 view is available.

F3 top bar: No icons, but text-in-box replaces expected icons, indicates Favorite and List Views; will switch views.

A screen shot cannot be taken.Pressing Alt changes the screen (in a manner similar to "reverse selection")

Cursor and central avatar are invisible. The photo shows an invisible cursor hovering on invisible central avatar revealing working, non-sugarised buttons.

[[File:Debian screenshot.jpeg]]

Many other text-on-hover are visible, non-sugarised.

Mostly, any-one-activity will start. A non-Sugar cursor is now present.

Many text-box-to-replace-icons are invisible or show black-on-very-dark-grey.
Several Activities tested, within limitations of above, the Activity starts to function.
"Activity title" may not be edited. Clicking on stop icon causes sugar-session to hang.
Cannot restore session, but in console killall python, closes the session without further error.

Things I checked:
~$ python -V => Python 2.6.6
librsvg2-2 is already the newest version.

python-gobject is already the newest version.

lxappearance is already the newest version.
:Three above report: set to manually installed.

==== Instance 2.====

A new install of sweets on a Raspberry pi

OS: a Debian clone, ''rpi_pisces'' Hard Float (armhf), testing, image from http://www.raspbian.org/PiscesImages

This, from Sugar environment:

::About my computer:
::Build: Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable
::Sugar: 0.94.1

Reference known bugs from [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Debian]]

1. [http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23644010 23644010] "Fixed"

I am using python 2.7 - said to be "Fixed in version hippo-canvas/0.3.1-1.1"

2. "Polkit authentication doesn't work with xdm display manager, use gdm3, at least, instead."

I have no display manager so I installed Package: gir1.2-polkit-1.0
~$: sudo apt-get install gir1.2-polkit-1.0
and this eliminated many errors looking like:
-- PackageKit install failed: Failed to obtain authentication. (not-authorized)
However I do not yet know if this is an adequate solution for Polkit authentication.

'''70% successful launch command:'''
~$: sweets sdk/sugar:emulator
I have a 70% working result, but without good two-way communication with source.

There are notes on this partially successful, unfinished job here:[[Talk:Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Advanced Topics]]

'''while much less successful launch command:'''
~$: sweets sdk/sugar:run
Produces all the symptoms mentioned in first instance, only worse.