User talk:Inkyfingers/Getting Started(1) - Revision history

Inkyfingers: adjust error

2011-12-12T15:04:28Z

adjust error

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	Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Inkyfingers: If required, there is help here.

2011-12-12T15:03:49Z

If required, there is help here.

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	::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST). I agree, that is sound. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST). I agree, that is sound. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: ~~Thank you for continuing~~ to ~~experiment with page improvements~~. --[[User:~~FGrose~~\|~~FGrose~~]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		Please compare:
	::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		# If you need to change this, you need to right click the http://wiki.laptop.org/images/b/ba/Xo_s.png Learner icon and click on '''My Settings''' on the pop-up menu. [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface\|If required, there is help here]].
	~~:::~~:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		# Hover the pointer or right click the Learner icon[[File:learner.svg\|link=\|bottom]]in the Home view, and then click on the [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface\|'My Settings' item on the pop-up menu]].
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		In my view, to a new learner, the second looks like an instruction to follow the link - adds complexity. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 10:03, 12 December 2011 (EST)
			=== linking tutorials ===
			Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
			:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Satellit: /* Drag-Drop */ remove section

2011-12-08T20:22:33Z

Drag-Drop: remove section

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	::::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		::::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

	~~==[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop Drag-Drop]==~~
	~~: Moved to new wiki page~~
	~~: I like this idea and believe it could be extended. I suggest it is moved to its own page. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 10:17, 7 December 2011 (EST)~~
	: I agree; Could be linked to your text. I was thinking a series of screen shots in between the text (they can be smaller and clicked on to expand) showing the process. [[user:Satellit\|satellit_]] 7:29 AM 7 Dec 2011 (I have moved the screen-shot into the text)

Satellit: /* FLOSS Manuals */

2011-12-08T19:52:00Z

FLOSS Manuals

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	:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
			::::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

FGrose at 19:38, 8 December 2011

2011-12-08T19:38:13Z

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	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	:: ~~'''~~Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages:~~http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/~~Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/~~Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/Drag-Drop~~'''~~; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Satellit: /* FLOSS Manuals */ Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot fullwiki-pages

2011-12-08T13:52:36Z

FLOSS Manuals: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot fullwiki-pages

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	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
			:: '''Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop'''; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Inkyfingers: To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users.

2011-12-08T11:48:41Z

To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users.

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	: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
	:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)		:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST). I agree, that is sound. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
			To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)

FGrose at 00:10, 8 December 2011

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	: A tutorial is good, but should be entered by choice, as the style is so different. Perhaps the declarative guidance appears and it is followed by a collapsed tutorial section or a link to a section on a separate page of tutorials. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: A tutorial is good, but should be entered by choice, as the style is so different. Perhaps the declarative guidance appears and it is followed by a collapsed tutorial section or a link to a section on a separate page of tutorials. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
	::My model: Switch on, here is the manual. The sane thing to do is to read the manual. In reading on the reader trusts the editor to provide an insightful walk-through. The product is a children's educational tool. An editor is required to provide appropriate content. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::My model: Switch on, here is the manual. The sane thing to do is to read the manual. In reading on the reader trusts the editor to provide an insightful walk-through. The product is a children's educational tool. An editor is required to provide appropriate content. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)
			::: Please forgive my misunderstanding of your intention. Although I suggested a similar model [[Talk:Crib_Sheet_day1#Comments\|in this comment]], the wiki ''Get started'' pages serve in a different context, but could integrate tutorials in secondary views. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.		I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.
	: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
	:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)		:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)
			::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
			::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)

	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Inkyfingers: deleted by author, unhelpful personal self-disclosure

2011-12-07T23:12:11Z

deleted by author, unhelpful personal self-disclosure

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	I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.		I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.
	: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia\|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation\|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
			:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)

	I think it is interesting to share that pre-production I followed [[How to present Sugar]]. As my idea developed /Presentation was aimed at parents ( my children), and /Explore at very young new learners, (their children). I then edited out some more "clunky" parts to try to avoid addressing any reader in a pejorative way and out of self-consciousness! I notice I have completely removed any sense that a parent can follow /Presentation in their own time while a child could work through /Explore at their own speed. I am not an Adobe fan but I find a .pdf presentation useful because its stability aids orientation.

	In my experience well written copy addressed to an eight year old can be understood by most adults and participating children, and easily speed read by an expert.--[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 04:34, 6 December 2011 (EST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Satellit: /* Drag-Drop */ fix link

2011-12-07T17:28:58Z

Drag-Drop: fix link

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	==[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop\ Drag-Drop]==		==[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop Drag-Drop]==
	: Moved to new wiki page		: Moved to new wiki page
	: I like this idea and believe it could be extended. I suggest it is moved to its own page. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 10:17, 7 December 2011 (EST)		: I like this idea and believe it could be extended. I suggest it is moved to its own page. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 10:17, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	: I agree; Could be linked to your text. I was thinking a series of screen shots in between the text (they can be smaller and clicked on to expand) showing the process. [[user:Satellit\|satellit_]] 7:29 AM 7 Dec 2011 (I have moved the screen-shot into the text)		: I agree; Could be linked to your text. I was thinking a series of screen shots in between the text (they can be smaller and clicked on to expand) showing the process. [[user:Satellit\|satellit_]] 7:29 AM 7 Dec 2011 (I have moved the screen-shot into the text)

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	Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

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	::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST). I agree, that is sound. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST). I agree, that is sound. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: ~~Thank you for continuing~~ to ~~experiment with page improvements~~. --[[User:~~FGrose~~\|~~FGrose~~]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		Please compare:
	::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		# If you need to change this, you need to right click the http://wiki.laptop.org/images/b/ba/Xo_s.png Learner icon and click on '''My Settings''' on the pop-up menu. [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface\|If required, there is help here]].
	~~:::~~:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		# Hover the pointer or right click the Learner icon[[File:learner.svg\|link=\|bottom]]in the Home view, and then click on the [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface\|'My Settings' item on the pop-up menu]].
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		In my view, to a new learner, the second looks like an instruction to follow the link - adds complexity. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 10:03, 12 December 2011 (EST)
			=== linking tutorials ===
			Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
			:Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

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	:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)		::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
			::::Done [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 11:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

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	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
	:: ~~'''~~Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages:~~http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/~~Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/~~Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit~~/sck/Drag-Drop~~'''~~; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)		:: Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages: [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet]], [[Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop]]; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
			::: Yes, the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. We should advise the [http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12528.html XO/Sugar Manual/Help Activity team] of those and these ''Get started'' pages. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 14:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

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	To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)		To clarify or repeat - keyboard settings is critical to successful deployment for non-USA users. --[[User:Inkyfingers\|Inkyfingers]] 06:48, 8 December 2011 (EST)
	::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)		::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
			:: '''Take a look at my 3 new screen-shot full wiki pages:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop'''; I hope that this format is useful. [[User:Satellit\| satellit_]] 5:47 AM 8 December 2011 (PST)
	: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)		: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose\|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)