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==Sugar Labs meeting, Monday, 30 June 2008== | ==Sugar Labs meeting, Monday, 30 June 2008== | ||
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Attending in person: Marco Pesenti Gritti, Paul Noja, Tomeu Vizoso, Walter Bender, Carlo Falciola, Franco Lodato, Luca Ferrari, Karen Sandler | Attending in person: Marco Pesenti Gritti, Paul Noja, Tomeu Vizoso, Walter Bender, Carlo Falciola, Franco Lodato, Luca Ferrari, Karen Sandler | ||
Participating by [[ | Participating by [[Oversight Board/Log-2008-06-30|IRC (See log)]]: bernie, mostro, mk8, BryanWB, arjs, shenki, jg, cjb, reed, dwmw2, mtd, walter, marcopg | ||
[[Image:Sugar-labs-meeting-milano.jpg|thumb|Sugar Labs meeting in Milano, Via Monte Napoleone]] | |||
;Logs: [[Oversight Board/2008/Log-2008-06-30]] | |||
===Governance and the Software Freedom Conservancy=== | ===Governance and the Software Freedom Conservancy=== | ||
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Karen led a discussion about the implications of Sugar Labs joining the Conservancy. The SFC is a home for FOSS projects as an umbrella organization: FOSS projects become part of the Conservancy; they get tax-free status in the US; and the projects set up a day-to-day governance structure that is generally autonomous. | Karen led a discussion about the implications of Sugar Labs joining the Conservancy. The SFC is a home for FOSS projects as an umbrella organization: FOSS projects become part of the Conservancy; they get tax-free status in the US; and the projects set up a day-to-day governance structure that is generally autonomous. | ||
Shenki asked a question regarding any downsides. While there is always a unilateral mechanism to spin out from the Conservancy, by joining, | Shenki asked a question regarding any downsides. While there is always a unilateral mechanism to spin out from the Conservancy, by joining, | ||
# We would be making a commitment to remain a non-profit organization in regard to any project assets (funds that we might raise, any copyrights or trademarks we might own); | |||
# No projects have ever spun out on their own, so there may be some unknown obstacles; and | |||
# There would be some administrative oversight (but we need it from somewhere). | |||
The Conservancy has some concern that Sugar Labs might get so big as to incur too big of a burden for the Conservancy to pick up all administrative expenses without some mutually agreed mechanism of help from Sugar Labs. | The Conservancy has some concern that Sugar Labs might get so big as to incur too big of a burden for the Conservancy to pick up all administrative expenses without some mutually agreed mechanism of help from Sugar Labs. | ||
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A question was raised in regard to working outside of the United States (the Conservancy is a US-based 501(c)(3)); while it hasn't been a problem, if necessary, projects within the Conservancy can work with organizations elsewhere—e.g., the Conservancy could help with administration of non-US programs without having to be involved in the funding—money can be raised and stay local, under local laws. | A question was raised in regard to working outside of the United States (the Conservancy is a US-based 501(c)(3)); while it hasn't been a problem, if necessary, projects within the Conservancy can work with organizations elsewhere—e.g., the Conservancy could help with administration of non-US programs without having to be involved in the funding—money can be raised and stay local, under local laws. | ||
Karen made some in-line edits (mostly in the form of questions) to the Governance page in the wiki. We need to achieve a bit more clarity about a few topics, such as | Karen made some in-line edits (mostly in the form of questions) to the Governance page in the wiki. We need to achieve a bit more clarity about a few topics, such as [[Sugar Labs/Members/List|Initial Membership]], terms of office, voting mechanics, etc. as part of the process of joining the Conservancy. | ||
===What are we (Sugar Labs) trying to accomplish?=== | ===What are we (Sugar Labs) trying to accomplish?=== | ||
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===Sugar Labs look and feel: a graphic design review=== | ===Sugar Labs look and feel: a graphic design review=== | ||
Luca Ferrari and Franco Lodato presented some designs for a “corporate identity” for Sugar Labs. The designs | Luca Ferrari and Franco Lodato presented some designs for a “corporate identity” for Sugar Labs. The designs are [[Design Team/Logo Ideas#Designs_by_Luca_Ferrari_and_Franco_Lodato|posted in the wiki]] for feedback. (Karen pointed out the importance of trademarks with in the context of FOSS projects.) | ||
===Sugar on mobile phones: is it possible? does it make sense?=== | ===Sugar on mobile phones: is it possible? does it make sense?=== | ||
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Still, it was argued that a cellphone screen is a bad environment for learning and that it would not be a substitute for a laptop. Chris Ball asked, “What are the minimum requirements for expressiveness and learning when we work on a port of Sugar?” | Still, it was argued that a cellphone screen is a bad environment for learning and that it would not be a substitute for a laptop. Chris Ball asked, “What are the minimum requirements for expressiveness and learning when we work on a port of Sugar?” | ||
We had some discussions about what would be involved in such a port and whom might be interested in doing it. (The Nokia | We had some discussions about what would be involved in such a port and whom might be interested in doing it. (The Nokia N800 was suggested as a possible point of departure.) | ||
===Sugar Labs: models of support=== | ===Sugar Labs: models of support=== | ||
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We do need to discuss what venues would be useful in light of reaching both the developer and user (primarily learning) communities. | We do need to discuss what venues would be useful in light of reaching both the developer and user (primarily learning) communities. | ||
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