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==Installation==
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While it is easy to find the download instructions, the non-GUI [[Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations|installation]] instructions are hard to find [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations#livecd-iso-to-disk_script][http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations#liveusb-creator_from_command_line_in_terminal]and I don't know where the GUI instructions are.[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation] --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 21:28, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
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==[[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]==
 
==[[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]==
 
See [[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]] and [[Talk:Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]. For older versions of this page, see [[/Archive]].
 
See [[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]] and [[Talk:Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]. For older versions of this page, see [[/Archive]].
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SoaS is a Linux-based, Sugar-running, delivered-on-a-thumbdrive distribution focused on customizability, deployability, and local support, and meant for 1-to-1 use in schools.
 
SoaS is a Linux-based, Sugar-running, delivered-on-a-thumbdrive distribution focused on customizability, deployability, and local support, and meant for 1-to-1 use in schools.
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The term is currently a trademark owned by SL and used to refer colloquially to several things:
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The term is currently used colloquially to refer to several things:
    
* the code, based on Fedora, that Sebastian has been working on (...for lack of a better descriptor)
 
* the code, based on Fedora, that Sebastian has been working on (...for lack of a better descriptor)
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Who decides:
 
Who decides:
A decision panel convened by the SLOBs (the latter is happening now), with strong input from both the current "SoaS" team and the Marketing team.
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A decision panel convened by the SLOBs (the latter is happening now), with strong input from both the current "SoaS" team and the Marketing team. See [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-September/019548.html this mailing list thread calling for discussion panel volunteers].
 
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=== Determine what "the code Sebastian is working on" is called ===
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This depends on the answer to "what 'SoaS' refers to," above.
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If (1), Sebastian's code would likely be "SoaS-Fedora" or similar, possibly after an application process allowing it to use the "SoaS" name.
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If (2), Sebastian's code would have a different secondary name ("SoaS-Fedora" or some other) but could (and likely would) start out as the specific SoaS edition that SL referred to when marketing "SoaS."
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If (3), Sebastian's code is simply "SoaS."
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Who decides:
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This is dependent on the answer to "what 'SoaS' refers to," so in effect the people who decide that question also decide who gets to decide this question. As a SL project, the people working on this code can call the project whatever they wants, so long as it does not interfere with the usage SL decides on for the term "SoaS."
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: Sebastian Dziallas is calling the coming iteration '''''Sugar on a Stick, Blueberry''''' [http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg08994.html].
      
== Completed next steps ==
 
== Completed next steps ==
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Both decisions would be made by SLOBs or a decision panel convened by the SLOBs. This issue is a peripheral one that isn't particularly within the scope of the current SoaS discussions in this thread, though.
 
Both decisions would be made by SLOBs or a decision panel convened by the SLOBs. This issue is a peripheral one that isn't particularly within the scope of the current SoaS discussions in this thread, though.
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=== Determine what a "SL Project" is ===
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==Soas-v7 Release Announcement==
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[SoaS] ANNOUNCE: Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
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pbrobinson 06/05/2012
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I'd like to announce Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
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There's been a lot of work go into this release from a lot of
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communities from Fedora and all the Fedora 17 features that give us
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new and exciting hardware support to the Sugar Labs community and all
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the new features that come with the Sugar 0.96 release on which SoaS
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v7 is based.
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Thanks go to all the people that have contributed to this release
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including Kalpa and Thomas who helped directly with SoaS, the Sugar
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development team and other Sugar developers. A lot of work has been
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done to ensure we can get working core Activities like Read and Browse
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and what should a good working base for deployments to test and add
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to.
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Some of the key new features of this release include:
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- Based on Fedora 17 and it's new features [1]
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- Massively improved x86 Mac support [2]
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- Sugar 0.96 with initial support for GTK3 Activities and many other
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improvements [3]
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- Return of Browse, now based on WebKit
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- The long awaited return of Read and inclusion of GetBooks
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- Enhanced hardware support with the 3.3 kernel
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- An increase in default Activities by nearly 50%
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Almost all of the previous Activities have seen updated releases
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including but not limited to:
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- Abacus 35 (GTK3)
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- Record 95
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- Physics 9
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- TurtleArt 138
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Newly added Activities include:
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- Browse 137 (GTK3)
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- Countries 33
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- Finance 7
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- GetBooks 11
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- Help 14 (GTK3)
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- Infoslicer 14
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- Labyrinth 12
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- Paint 43
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- Portfolio 21
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- Read 99 (GTK3)
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There are many more Activities available through the usual Fedora repositories.
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The release name, Quandong, continues the tradition of naming releases
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by types of fruit. The Quandong [4] or Native Peach is a native
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Australian bushfood.
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You can download the release from the following link.
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http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/
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It can also be installed as part of a standard Fedora 17 install and
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is shipped as part of the official Fedora installer DVD and the Fedora
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Multi Spin Live DVD. It can also be installed from the GUI package
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tool within a running Fedora install or by command line "sudo yum
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install @sugar-desktop".
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[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList
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[2] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12037.html
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[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Notes
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[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santalum_acuminatum
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_______________________________________________
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SoaS mailing list
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SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org
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http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
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* What are the criteria for being a SL project?
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* What is the process for becoming one?
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* What benefits and responsibilities do SL projects get?
      
== Side notes ==
 
== Side notes ==
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Feedback from a first grade teacher: What teachers care about: (1) Is it friendly? (2) Is it consistent? (3) Can the effort needed to maintain it be sustained? What they don't care about: (1)  What group "runs" it? (2) Who owns the trademark? (3) What bleeding-edge features are being developed now for a future release? (3) What is the underlying technology? What would reassure them: (1) Peer support. (2) Seeing it in action, so they can create a "mental paradigm" category for something like Sugar/SoaS.
 
Feedback from a first grade teacher: What teachers care about: (1) Is it friendly? (2) Is it consistent? (3) Can the effort needed to maintain it be sustained? What they don't care about: (1)  What group "runs" it? (2) Who owns the trademark? (3) What bleeding-edge features are being developed now for a future release? (3) What is the underlying technology? What would reassure them: (1) Peer support. (2) Seeing it in action, so they can create a "mental paradigm" category for something like Sugar/SoaS.
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Added Notes:(Tom Gilliard 9/21/2009) "satellit"
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Added Notes:
*1.) F12 and opensuse-edu now distribute a dual mode live.iso of Sugar-Desktop which boots into sugar as a CD or can be used to dd write to a USB/SD "stick". (persistence is a work in progress on these)[[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Dual_Mode_.iso_Files]] [[http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/04/28/whats-behind-lzma-compressed-livecds/]][[http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kiwi;a=blob;f=modules/KIWILinuxRC.sh;h=6591ab5125df730800bf3dc3dde9ce875183568c;hb=HEAD]][[http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/education/]]
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*1.) F12(rawhide) and opensuse-edu now distribute a dual mode live.iso of Sugar-Desktop which boots into sugar as a CD or can be used to dd write to a USB/SD "stick". (persistence is a work in progress on these)[[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Dual_Mode_.iso_Files]] [[http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/04/28/whats-behind-lzma-compressed-livecds/]][[http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kiwi;a=blob;f=modules/KIWILinuxRC.sh;h=6591ab5125df730800bf3dc3dde9ce875183568c;hb=HEAD]][[http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/education/]]
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*2.) Sugar from multiple distros is available[[http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/]] as a VMPlayer or Virtualbox "Appliance" which can be stored on a USB/SD "Stick" and thus is transportable with (persistence) from PC to PC.
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*3.) There are "full installs"(real file structure-not a live system) of: Sugar, Sugar+Gnome, Sugar+KDE on larger(4GB+) USB Sticks which are available for download [[http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/]]in compressed form that can be written to a bootable USB/SD with a dd command in several minutes.
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Added Notes:
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from Soas lists:
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Rubén Rodríguez Pérez
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* Trisquel-Edu (Live USB)
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* Trisquel-Sugar (Announced 09/28/2009)
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I will further explain the differences:
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We are including the Sugar packages in both our 2.2 LTS version (where
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you can find the Trisquel Edu edition), and in our new 3.0 STS version.
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All our live Sugar images will be based on the STS one, as it will
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provide better hardware support.
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Trisquel Edu, which is a GNOME based educational system, can run Sugar
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as an alternate environment, or serve it via LTSP. The Edu edition (like
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the Pro one) is only available in the 2.2 LTS version of the distro. It
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will be the recommended version for large Sugar-on-Trisquel deployments.
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== Development notes ==
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Processes we should document.
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* [http://me.etin.gs/sugar/sugar.log.20100317_1245.html how to make a kickstart file]
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: How to make a remix:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Instructions
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* [http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100319_0950.html minimal kickstart file]
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* Package selection: timeline and criteria. How does stuff make it onto SoaS?
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== Some checksum hash(s) please ==
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The following links are missing the SoaS SHA256 checksum/hashs
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http://fedora-spins.c3sl.ufpr.br/alt/spins/linux/releases/15/Spins/i686/Fedora-15-i686-Spins-CHECKSUM
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http://fedora-spins.c3sl.ufpr.br/alt/spins/linux/releases/15/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-15-x86_64-Spins-CHECKSUM
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Could someone post a png or gif of the hash for these files here since fedora won't update this until F16(Verne) is out.
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*2.) Sugar from multiple distros is available as a VMPlayer or Virtualbox "Appliance" which can be stored on a USB/SD "Stick" and thus is transportable with (persistence) from PC to PC.
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--[[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 11:29, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
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*3.) There are "full installs"(real file structure-not a live system) of: Sugar, Sugar+Gnome, Sugar+KDE on larger(4GB+) USB Sticks which are available for download in compressed form that can be written to a bootable USB/SD with a dd command in several minutes.
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:sha256sum 95650ec1257670e44466e75059ff8b05f636cd78658a025ae52c8992145f778c  Fedora-15-i686-Live-SoaS.iso
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:md5sum 67dc6fe4625f61d9d51f89c082f3c9c3  Fedora-15-i686-Live-SoaS.iso
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Are these also Soas? Or something different and does it matter that much, as long as they are allowing wider distribution and use of SUGAR?
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:sha256sum aa18f9dae1fe8d9bde47a45fefd19f2127dfc1001de3c1f76fbc1f85ec576e0d  Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso
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:md5sum db209baffdef41b7ca029b6e224ed7d1  Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso
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:: from my copies --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 12:30, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
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