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+== Requirement GNOME? ==
+Comparison of these two reports
+[[Testing/Reports/Sweets on Debian Wheezy]] and
+[[Testing/Reports/Sweets on GNOME Debian Wheezy]]
+would suggest improvements can be made to wording in Debian section of [[Platform Team/Guide/Sugar via Sweets#Supported distributions]] --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 06:57, 16 July 2012 (EDT)
 ==Installing sweets-sugar from Fedora 16 GNOME 3 Terminal==
 : 12/03/2011 satellit
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 *Restart (to reset dbus)
 *Install GPG Key (as PK does not install it.)
+:Installing in XFCE Beta TC1 x86-64 install is this next section still needed? --[[User:Satellit|Satellit]] 18:05, 12 March 2012 (EDT)
+:I did it and no GPG Key was requested
   yum install pygobject2-devel
   packages will be installed... 1 + 3 dependencies  asks for gpg key and I said Y
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   gnome-python2-rsvg csound-python libXpm-devel libXdmcp-devel icon-naming-utils icon-slicer libdmx-devel xorg-x11-proto-devel
   GConf2-devel libXcomposite-devel hippo-canvas-python libXcursor-devel libXfixes-devel libICE-devel libXp-devel libdrm-devel
+*error:--[[User:Satellit|Satellit]] 18:05, 12 March 2012 (EDT) XFCE f17
+ --Cannot solve dextrose /home/(user)/.cache/0install.net/implementations/ ....for building: Cannot find required implementations for http://sweets.sugarlabs.org/base/pygtk
 *'''Sugar starts in Xephyr'''
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   sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator -f
 *Hover over XO icon click on My Settings in drop down
+:select "frame"
 *Move bottom slider "edge" fully Left
 :restart
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 ::0.94
 * '''after installing the activities in software update in 0.94 they remain in sugar 0.88 and work.'''
-==Sweets errors in Ubuntu 11.04==
-*Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar emulator][Ubuntu 11.04] I can't install an activity (with the setup.py)
-:12/06/2011
+== Installing Sugar via sweets - in Mint-12 ==
- On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 09:53:51PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
+/12/2011 by inkyfingers
- > > Finally sweets sdk installation aborded :
- > >
+Host environment: Mint-12 installed three days prior to start from:linuxmint-12-gnome-cd-nocodecs-32bit.
-  > > -- PackageKit install failed: The following packages have unmet
- > > dependencies:
+Testing Mint-12 over three days, it is fairly sound, but some freezing when using Firefox 8. I wait 10 seconds for unfreeze, no crashes.
-  > >   python-abiword: Depends: libabiword-2.8 (= 2.8.6-0.3) but 2.8.6-0.3build1
-  > > is to be installed
+My machine: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_98841a4d-b674-4a44-804b-d7cee2872a09
-  > >  (dep-resolution-failed)
+=== Installation ===
-  > > -- Use -D argument for debug info, -DD for full debuging output and
+  iain@Mint2 ~ $ sudo apt-get install gnome-packagekit
- > > tracebacks
+installs, no error reported, suggested packages:  packagekit-backend-apt packagekit-backend-smart
- Yeah, that's ubuntu-11.04's long standing bug that was reported, fixed in
+  iain@Mint2 ~ $ sudo apt-get install  packagekit-backend-apt packagekit-backend-smart
-  proposed-updates but not in updates. You need to add proposed updates,
+installs, no error reported, suggested packages: python-rpm
- and upgrade from them:
+  iain@Mint2 ~ $ sudo apt-get install python-rpm
-      sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-proposed main universe'
+* Restart
-     sudo apt-get update
-     sudo apt-get upgrade
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ wget http://download.sugarlabs.org/sweets/sweets/installer.sh
-  --
-  Aleksey
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sh installer.sh
+ Sweets self extracting installer
+ -- Scan ftp://download.sugarlabs.org/sweets/sweets for updates
+ -- Downloading update from http://download.sugarlabs.org/sweets/sweets/sweets-1.0.5.tar.gz
+ -- sweets launcher was installed to /home/iain/.local/bin
+ -- sweets-index service was installed to /home/iain/.local/share/dbus-1/services
+: ... sweets: command not found ... so, requires a restart.
+* Restart
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets upgrade
+ -- Scan ftp://download.sugarlabs.org/sweets/sweets for updates
+ -- No need in upgrading
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets dextrose/sugar:emulator
+:... top of output not copied
+ -- Cannot solve /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=3609c88732be7be0144e77220861a08733dfd1d3 for building: Cannot find requireed implementations for http://sweets.sugarlabs.org/base/x11-libs
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator -f
+ -- Cannot solve /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=3609c88732be7be0144e77220861a08733dfd1d3 for building: Cannot find requireed implementations for http://sweets.sugarlabs.org/base/x11-libs
+Now there is a three day gap - I learn that the sweet "base/x11-libs" had a bug found in Mint.
+Now use -R option to refresh.
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator
+: ... top of output was not copied
+ -- Install python-gtk2-dev python-xklavier libxt-dev xsltproc libdbus-1-dev telepathy-salut python-gobject-dev libxres-dev libxfixes-dev libdrm-dev python-dev libxcomposite-dev libxss-dev libfontenc-dev intltool libdmx-dev libice-dev python-cjson python-decorator libxdamage-dev libX11-dev libcairo2-dev libxpm-dev libxfont-dev libxxf86vm-dev libasound2-dev python-rsvg libxext-dev gnome-common python-telepathy xserver-xephyr libdmx1 libxft-dev libxxf86dga-dev libfs-dev libtool libtelepathy-glib-dev libxi-dev libxv-dev python-hippocanvas libxmu-dev libgtk2.0-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libgconf2-dev libxp-dev icon-slicer icon-naming-utils libxinerama-dev libxtst-dev libxkbfile-dev libxrender-dev libxvmc-dev libxcursor-dev libxrandr-dev python-gtksourceview2 libsm-dev telepathy-gabble libglib2.0-dev
+ -- Build sdk/sugar-artwork (0.94.0)
+ -- Build sdk/sugar-base (0.94.0)
+ -- Build sdk/sugar-toolkit (0.94.0)
+ -- Build sdk/sugar-datastore (0.94.0)
+ -- Build sdk/telepathy-mission-control (5.7.1)
+ -- Build sdk/sugar (0.94.1)
+ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
+ ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+: However this produces Sugar in a window.
+=== Testing Sugar in a window ===
+The product of this command under Mint-12 in GUI xterm: sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator
+Title bar reads: Sugar in a window
+: Build: Linux Mint 12 Lisa
+: Sugar: 0.94.1
+: Firmware: 6.00 PG
+Very first screen: icon colour change.
+Home view: Favourites view and list view appear, are empty
+F1 names of neighbours 'show on hover'
+From configuration screen
+: About me, offers to colour change fine. Has correctly taken my name from Host.
+: Frame adjust seems to work - asks for restart as expected. I respond - Later.
+: Keyboard sttings changed and tested ok
+: Hit software Updates ckecking for updates. Updating appears - no obvious activity in 7 seconds. Hit cancel.
+: No updating seems to start.
+: Date & time: Able to select TZ, asks for restart, I respond: Later.
+Function keys F1 to F6 all work - Journal appears.
+USB device, (which was inserted pre-start) is visible,
+Relationship between Host environment - typing this - and Sugar in a window is absoutely predictable, ok.
+*In Host environment,the original xterm window:    last 3 lines are now:
+    ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+    Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc003bd specified for 0
+    Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc02eda specified for 0
+Use Firefox on Host environment to download to USB flashdrive.
+Download: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo. Save to USB flashdrive.
+Download from Aslo: Browse-129.xo and Terminal-35.xo. Save to USB flashdrive,
+* In Sugar in a window:
+Start Software update: checking for updates ... no activity, 5 mins.
+Drag and drop Browse-129.xo and Terminal-35.xo and Surf-115.xo from flashdrive to Journal.
+Activities appear in F3 Home view, List,
+Click Browse, flashing icon ... reports, fails to start.
+Click Surf, flashing icon ... reports 'Surf failed to start.'
+Click Terminal, flashing icon and starts.
+ uname -a - ok
+* Download using Host environment: moon-13.xo and  irc-10.xo. Save to USB flashdrive.
+* In Sugar in a window:
+Drag and drop from flashdrive to Journal, moon-13.xo and  irc-10.xo
+Click Moon, flashing icon and starts ok.
+Click IRC, flashing icon and starts ok. tx out appears to work.
+Close the host environment terminal.
+: End of test.
+:: '''NOTE''' the above was carried out without the benefit of -S switch.
+=== Testing Xephyr ===
+Immediately follows the above.
+The product of this command under Mint-12 in GUI xterm: sweets dextrose/sugar:emulator
+Title bar reads: Xephyr on :30.0
+: Build: Linux Mint 12 Lisa
+: Sugar: 0.88.1
+PS Note this test is without benefit of -S switch.
+F1 to F6 work - pre-existing journal is intact.
+Terminal starts - simple commands work.
+About my computer: Sugar 0.88.1
+Keyboard settings survived.
+Pre-existing downloaded Activites are in Home View.
+Click irc, flashing icon, starts. Test tx in and out ok.
+Click Surf-115.xo, flashing icon, starts, is online.
+Write appears in journal. Right click, resume, - flashing icon, but reports fails to start.
+Using Surf, download Sugar file manager.
+Successful and Sugar File manager starts and works.
+Attempt to download Write again.
+Write icon in Home View, Click Write,- flashing icon - reports, 'fail to start'
+Back to Host environment
+xterm output is as follows. ie this is the last few lines of the traceback which launched the test in progress.
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar-base for building
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar-toolkit for building
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar-presence-service for building
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar-datastore for building
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar-artwork for building
+ -- Solve dextrose/sugar for building
+ -- Build dextrose/sugar-base (0.88.0)
+ -- Build dextrose/sugar-toolkit (0.88.1)
+ -- Build dextrose/sugar-presence-service (0.88.0)
+ -- Build dextrose/sugar-datastore (0.88.0)
+ -- Build dextrose/sugar-artwork (0.88.1)
+ - Build dextrose/sugar (0.88.1)
+ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
+ /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=c19654b00070887627e457daaaaaafbdeafb380a/.sweets/local/bin/sugar: 60: [[: not found
+ /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=c19654b00070887627e457daaaaaafbdeafb380a/.sweets/local/bin/sugar: 113: [[: not found
+ ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+ E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
+ E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc01955 specified for 0xc01988 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc0347a specified for 0xc034a8 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: last_focus_time (48387255) is greater than comparison timestamp (48387251).  This most likely represents a buggy client sending inaccurate timestamps in messages such as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW.  Trying to work around...
+=== Extended test: Two sweets running at once! ===
+: '''Note''' this is not good practice, its a bit like riding a bike with no hands, showing off and might result in breakage.
+With Xephyr on :30.0 running on desktop 4.
+In host environment open new xterm
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets sdk/sugar:emulator
+ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
+ ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc00223 specified for 0xc00260 (sugar-sess).
+Both sweets are running, both on desktop 4.
+Close both Sweets, by using close icon in top right corner.
+* Back at Host environment
+'''xterm output, ref: sdk/sugar '''
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets sdk/sugar:emulator
+ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
+ ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc00223 specified for 0xc00260 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc00223 specified for 0xc02b34 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc00223 specified for 0xc02c62 (sugar-sess).
+ XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
+      after 23718 requests (23718 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
+ Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on display ':31'.
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $
+'''xterm output, ref: dextrose/sugar '''
+ /... copy last lines only:
+ /home/iain/.cache/0install.net/implementations/sha1new=c19654b00070887627e457daaaaaafbdeafb380a/.sweets/local/bin/sugar: 113: [[: not found
+ ls: cannot access /usr/lib*/xulrunner-1.*: No such file or directory
+ E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
+ E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc01955 specified for 0xc01988 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc0347a specified for 0xc034a8 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: last_focus_time (48387255) is greater than comparison timestamp (48387251).  This most likely represents a buggy client sending inaccurate timestamps in messages such as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW.  Trying to work around...
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc01955 specified for 0xc0f645 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc08267 specified for 0xc1202e (sugar-sess).
+ XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
+      after 176360 requests (176360 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
+ (metacity:28952): GConf-WARNING **: Got Disconnected from DBus.
+ Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on display ':30'.
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $
+=== Check out the -S option ===
+'''Start xephyr session with'''
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator
+asks for root password. Downloading.
+after 4 minutes Xephyr on :30.0 apears.
+Click on Surf, flashing icon and starts.
+Click on Physics, flashing icon and starts.
+Click on Chat, flashing icon and starts. Share a Chat session, F1 - Chat bubble icon is visible in my colours.
+Check contents of Frame. System resources and USB device seen and appear working.
+See repair Journal feature. Close all activities, Opporunity to rename activities not given by default.
+Click on repair journal. Reports, "Journal has been reindexed", and Sugar session is terminated without further warning.
+Restart with:
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator
+Click on Sugar File Manager. Works as expected.
+In host environment there is now an icon representing a drive or partition labeled Journal. This will open with Nautilus, Write documents are seen and can be printed.
+'''Start Sugar in a window session with'''
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S sdk/sugar:emulator
+Click on Write, flashing icon and starts.
+Able to write, save, rename Activity title
+Click on Surf, flashing icon and reports fail to start.
+Click on Terminal, flashing icon and starts.
+All seems to work, but no Surf,
+From Home View, List,
+Click Browse-129.xo. Flashing icon and starts, is online, three sites visited and logon ok.
+Using Activity Browse, download Reflection 3 from ASLO - Demonstrate Reflection, name, title, description and tag ok.
+Using browse, download Chat-73.xo, saves to Journal.
+Click on Chat, flashing icon and starts.
+Click neighbourhood icon to share.
+F1, neighbourhood view  no chat ballon to indicate shared Chat Activity.
+Change name in My Setting. Click for restart, Sugar in a window session closes.
+Host environment remains.
+This is the trace from the above session:
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S sdk/sugar:emulator
+ -- Download http://download.sugarlabs.org/sweets/sdk/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.88.1-r10-src.tar.gz
+ -- Solve sdk/sugar-presence-service for building
+ -- Build sdk/sugar-presence-service (0.88.1)
+ Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
+ [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
+  Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc02cc9 specified for 0xc02d2e (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0xc06b70 specified for 0xc06ba3 (sugar-sess).
+ Window manager warning: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on display ':30'.
+  iain@Mint2 ~ $
+'''Start Sugar in a window session with'''
+ iain@Mint2 ~ $ sweets -S sdk/sugar:emulator
+Name change has been applied.
+Resume Chat, I see on line message and countdown, but no chat balloon in F1.
+Later, download Chat-73.xo again. No change.
+Resume Chat, I see on line message and countdown, but no chat balloon in F1.
+Surf, flashing icon, reports fails to start.

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