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~~Q: Are there regular developer meetings on irc?~~

<noinclude>{{TeamHeader|Development Team|roadmap_link={{Upcoming Stable Release}}/Roadmap}}</noinclude>

== Sugar Activity starting ==

~~A: Yes there are on, each Thursday at 17.00 UTC on irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting. More information: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Meetings~~

====How can a user start an activity from the command line?====

~~Q: Where~~ can ~~I find out more about being~~ a Sugar ~~Activity developer~~?

How can a user start an activity from the command line without starting Sugar? Please supply a sample command.

~~A: Visit our [[Activity Team|Activity team page]]~~.

Why? I'm tired of digging around for the error logs. I figured I could do something like

sugar - run pippy 2>pippyerrors.txt

Q: ~~Where can I find out more about~~ the ~~Sugar GIT and the Sugar release process?~~

bemasc suggests

less ~/.sugar/default/logs/org.whatever

:Note the above command will take some messing around with to get what you want.

A: ~~See~~ [~~[Activity Team~~/~~Git FAQ|our GIT FAQ]]~~ and ~~[[DevelopmentTeam~~/~~Release|our Release team pages]]~~.

I have tried:

user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild launch pippy

sugar-jhbuild launch: command not found

user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild sugar - launch pippy

sugar-jhbuild sugar: command not found

user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild pippy

sugar-jhbuild pippy: command not found

user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild run pippy

sugar-jhbuild run: Unable to execute the command 'pippy': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

And the response.

<bemasc> dgd: impossible.

<dgd> bemasc, ?

<dgd> not possible to run activities from jhbuild is that what you mean bemasc

<bemasc> dgd: sugar activities cannot run outside of sugar, and more than a java applet can run outside of the JVM, or a flash applet can run outside of a flash interpreter.

<bemasc> s/and/any/

<dgd> ok, so running just the activity in sugar?

<dgd> just one activity, none of the home stuff etc.

<bemasc> also not possible

<dgd> I thought for sure I read in the docs that you can run just an activity...

<bemasc> by "not possible" I mean "requires you to modify the code for the Sugar shell".

< bemasc> You can probably cause Sugar to launch and immediately start an activity. You might be able to do this using a .xsession script.

<bemasc> However, users will still be able to bring up the frame and switch to the home view, etc.

====Where are the activities stored?====

Some users will find them here:

/usr/share/sugar/activities/

Jhbuild users will find the activities here:

./install/share/sugar/activities/Calculate.activity/activity

./source/terminal/activity

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-Q: Are there regular developer meetings on irc?
+<noinclude>{{TeamHeader|Development Team|roadmap_link={{Upcoming Stable Release}}/Roadmap}}</noinclude>
+== Sugar Activity starting ==
-A: Yes there are on, each Thursday at 17.00 UTC on irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting. More information: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Meetings
+====How can a user start an activity from the command line?====
-Q: Where can I find out more about being a Sugar Activity developer?
+How can a user start an activity from the command line without starting Sugar? Please supply a sample command.
-A: Visit our [[Activity Team|Activity team page]].
+Why? I'm tired of digging around for the error logs. I figured I could do something like
+ sugar - run pippy 2>pippyerrors.txt
-Q: Where can I find out more about the Sugar GIT and the Sugar release process?
+bemasc suggests
+ less ~/.sugar/default/logs/org.whatever
+:Note the above command will take some messing around with to get what you want.
-A: See [[Activity Team/Git FAQ|our GIT FAQ]] and [[DevelopmentTeam/Release|our Release team pages]].
+I have tried:
+ user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild launch pippy
+ sugar-jhbuild launch: command not found
+ user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild sugar - launch pippy
+ sugar-jhbuild sugar: command not found
+ user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild pippy
+ sugar-jhbuild pippy: command not found
+ user@ubuntu:~/sugar-jhbuild$ ./sugar-jhbuild run pippy
+ sugar-jhbuild run: Unable to execute the command 'pippy': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+And the response.
+ <bemasc> dgd: impossible.
+ <dgd> bemasc, ?
+ <dgd> not possible to run activities from jhbuild is that what you mean bemasc
+ <bemasc> dgd: sugar activities cannot run outside of sugar, and more than a java applet can run outside of the JVM, or a flash applet can run outside of a flash interpreter.
+ <bemasc> s/and/any/
+ <dgd> ok, so running just the activity in sugar?
+ <dgd> just one activity, none of the home stuff etc.
+ <bemasc> also not possible
+ <dgd> I thought for sure I read in the docs that you can run just an activity...
+ <bemasc> by "not possible" I mean "requires you to modify the code for the Sugar shell".
+ < bemasc> You can probably cause Sugar to launch and immediately start an activity.  You might be able to do  this using a .xsession script.
+ <bemasc> However, users will still be able to bring up the frame and switch to the home view, etc.
+====Where are the activities stored?====
+Some users will find them here:
+ /usr/share/sugar/activities/
+Jhbuild users will find the activities here:
+ ./install/share/sugar/activities/Calculate.activity/activity
+ ./source/terminal/activity