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: See ideas emerging on this topic at [[Sugar on a Stick/Roadmap#Use cases]] --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 19:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== Caroline's Repeatable Process for Creating Sticks ==

(This may be out of date.)

This is the process I (Caroline Meeks) use. Some of the things I do maybe superstition, but here is it.

=== Preparation: ===

# Download and install version 3.6.5 live usb creator for XP

# Download the iso snapshot you want to create - You only have to download it once.

=== For Each Stick ===

# Insert a 1 or 2 GB Stick

# Delete files so that you have 700 MiB or more of space available.

#: (The formatting step is not needed, but may help if other methods don't work) Format it using FAT. If it has anything on it it will be completely erased so you can reuse sticks.

#: See [[olpc:How to Damage a FLASH Storage Device]] before formatting. The 'Stick' probably came with a FAT file system that the Fedora LiveUSB Creator will use. You can even leave some of your files on the drive. You may want to try using the native drive formatting to see if it works before reformatting the drive.

# Name the volume FEDORA (The File Manager's properties, General tab panel will let you rename a volume.)

#: This does not seem to be necessary with current version.

# Open the live USB creator

# Click Browse and find your snapshot

# Move the slider for persistent storage but don't use absolutely everything on the stick. These days I use about 500 MB for a 1 GB Stick

# Burn the stick. It takes about 15 minutes or so for me

# Close the live USB creator

# Eject the stick

# Create a boot-helper CD that matches your snapshot (I use my mac for that, but I've never heard of problems so any way of creating a LiveCD should work)

==For Windows only users==

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: Thanks FGrose! They are slightly clearer - at least it says something like "Do Not Do unless fails without." Perhaps the detail I was looking for belongs on the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device page? MWTalbutt

* Recommended overlay and home sizes -

Execute the Linux command line: /livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb '''500''' --home-size-mb '''900''' --delete-home --unencrypted-

- Shouldn't these sizes be bigger for 4 GB and 8GB USB sticks?

===[SoaS] Problem with Mirabelle and USB Boot===

soas lists 07/01/2010 posted by satellit

OK,

To prevent it name the sticks Fedora prior to putting the image on them. (This step should be added to the online instructions.)

Now, if you did not change the name and need to modify the syslinux.cfg, change the following lines: (you will have a different UUID#)

append initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID=3D4E-8E71 rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=3D4E-8E71 quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD

append initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID=3D4E-8E71 rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=3D4E-8E71 quiet rhgb check

to

append initrd=initrd0.img root=LABEL=FEDORA rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=LABEL=FEDORA quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD

append initrd=initrd0.img root=LABEL=FEDORA rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=LABEL=FEDORA quiet rhgb check

I tested this fix and it works.

Marc marckarasek@gmail.com

==putting sugar around a stick (with fedora's help)==

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Tomeu (26 March 2009)

==bit more help needed please==

I haven't got it to boot yet, and maybe my lack of computing experience will help improve the instructions for non-sysadmins.

a) may be worth clarifying that burning a .iso is not just putting a data file on a disk but 'burn compilation' or somesuch.

b)'file manager properties' - don't see that with Windows 2000. Using 'rename' seems to have problems; put it in another computer and the name did not show as FEDORA, though that was the 'label'.

c) let the computer reboot from the CD; ain't got that far yet.

Still to work out what I am doing wrong, but the instructions and context here are for linux hackers and geeks; a long way to go before it looks like an education project, I am afraid.

Brian 25 July 2009

:Please see the amended instructions. Renaming is not required with current version of the installer. The Fedora Live USB Creator transfers the disc image to the USB drive. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 00:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

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 [[User:Harriska2|Harriska2]]
 : See ideas emerging on this topic at [[Sugar on a Stick/Roadmap#Use cases]] --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 19:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
+== Caroline's Repeatable Process for Creating Sticks ==
+(This may be out of date.)
+This is the process I (Caroline Meeks) use.  Some of the things I do maybe superstition, but here is it.
+=== Preparation: ===
+# Download and install version 3.6.5 live usb creator for XP
+# Download the iso snapshot you want to create - You only have to download it once.
+=== For Each Stick ===
+# Insert a 1 or 2 GB Stick
+# Delete files so that you have 700 MiB or more of space available.
+#: (The formatting step is not needed, but may help if other methods don't work) Format it using FAT. If it has anything on it it will be completely erased so you can reuse sticks.
+#: See [[olpc:How to Damage a FLASH Storage Device]] before formatting.  The 'Stick' probably came with a FAT file system that the Fedora LiveUSB Creator will use.  You can even leave some of your files on the drive.  You may want to try using the native drive formatting to see if it works before reformatting the drive.
+# Name the volume FEDORA (The File Manager's properties, General tab panel will let you rename a volume.)
+#: This does not seem to be necessary with current version.
+# Open the live USB creator
+# Click Browse and find your snapshot
+# Move the slider for persistent storage but don't use absolutely everything on the stick. These days I use about 500 MB for a 1 GB Stick
+# Burn the stick. It takes about 15 minutes or so for me
+# Close the live USB creator
+# Eject the stick
+# Create a boot-helper CD that matches your snapshot (I use my mac for that, but I've never heard of problems so any way of creating a LiveCD should work)
 ==For Windows only users==
@@ Line 21: / Line 45: @@
 : Thanks FGrose! They are slightly clearer - at least it says something like "Do Not Do unless fails without." Perhaps the detail I was looking for belongs on the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device page? MWTalbutt
+* Recommended overlay and home sizes -
+Execute the Linux command line:  /livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb '''500''' --home-size-mb '''900''' --delete-home --unencrypted-
+- Shouldn't these sizes be bigger for 4 GB and 8GB USB sticks?
+===[SoaS] Problem with Mirabelle and USB Boot===
+ soas lists 07/01/2010  posted by satellit
+ OK,
+ To prevent it name the sticks Fedora prior to putting the image on them.  (This step should be added to the online instructions.)
+ Now, if you did not change the name and need to modify the syslinux.cfg, change the following lines: (you will have a different UUID#)
+   append initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID=3D4E-8E71 rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=3D4E-8E71 quiet  rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD
+   append initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID=3D4E-8E71 rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=UUID=3D4E-8E71 quiet  rhgb check
+ to
+   append initrd=initrd0.img root=LABEL=FEDORA rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=LABEL=FEDORA quiet  rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD
+   append initrd=initrd0.img root=LABEL=FEDORA rootfstype=vfat rw liveimg overlay=LABEL=FEDORA quiet  rhgb check
+ I tested this fix and it works.
+ Marc marckarasek@gmail.com
 ==putting sugar around a stick (with fedora's help)==
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 Tomeu   (26 March 2009)
+==bit more help needed please==
+I haven't got it to boot yet, and maybe my lack of computing experience will help improve the instructions for non-sysadmins.
+a) may be worth clarifying that burning a .iso is not just putting a data file on a disk but 'burn compilation' or somesuch.
+b)'file manager properties' - don't see that with Windows 2000. Using 'rename' seems to have problems; put it in another computer and the name did not show as FEDORA, though that was the 'label'.
+c) let the computer reboot from the CD; ain't got that far yet.
+Still to work out what I am doing wrong, but the instructions and context here are for linux hackers and geeks; a long way to go before it looks like an education project, I am afraid.
+Brian 25 July 2009
+:Please see the amended instructions. Renaming is not required with current version of the installer. The Fedora Live USB Creator transfers the disc image to the USB drive. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 00:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)