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Dennis Daniels

Joined 2 August 2009
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Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=whoami=
I am a teacher that believes most schools are teaching 19th century skills in a 21st century world.Sugar, and similar projects can help reverse that sorry state of affairs.
=scope and info=
I want to reproduce something like I did [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5202122558113609861&ei=vHQlSpmEE4GyqAOEmMXjBQ&q=LTSP here].
=links=
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
=ongoing issues=
 
==general==
*sometimes after installing a new .xo users will not see it in the 'ring'
**fix is to restart Sugar... :(
*users are not notified of new .xo versions
*no easy way to report a bug as anonymous
**In fact, it takes 16 clicks(knowing what you are doing!) to post a bug to the tracker
*arrow keys and delete key in emulator do not work in (many,Write) activity
*NO OBVIOUS save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
*no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
*-no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
*-copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
*-can't name chats
 
==sharing==
*-no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
**I want to find a way to 'play' with others in the neighborhood
*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
*-control over edits to shared docs?
*my shared documents are not 'connected to me' in the neighborhood view
===wish===
*That every open source developer make more screencasts
*Something like http://www.clubpenguin.com/ for sharing learning activities where kids could play each other's games, interact, code... :)
*list of public or portal jabber sites that are using Sugar for collaboration among schools...
 
==activities==
===write===
*new icons don't say much about their functionality
===labyrinth===
*re name to 'map my ideas'?
*linking is awkward
*save save as image? how?where?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzjchQ1pUk
 
===Pippy===
*Pippy doesn't load examples
===Speak===
*No easy way to edit robot text or speech
===Turtle ARt===
where does HTML from TA get saved? v67 no joy
: supposed to be in the journal but it doesn't appear to work
:need to figure out templates(?)
===map===
*Doesn't work very well in emulator mode
 
==don't work at all==
*scratch
*cartoonbuilder
*help activity
 
==tags==
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild speak pippy neighborhood open_source computer computing learning programming python squeak logs python mindmap drawing teaching free sharing networking recordmydesktop think learn read explore guided_instruction
 
==links==
==links==
[irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar IRC]
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code>
*p8 is short for private chat
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges
 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test
 
[[One tester's attempt at installing SoaS]]
 
==testing machines==
==testing machines==
*Compaq TC4400
*Compaq TC4400
*EPIC 1312 (a real POS)
*4 gigs Ram
**dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
***unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run
 
=jhbuild=
[[One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9]]
./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run
 
dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: great!
 
<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!
 
<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you
 
<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)
 
<dgd> silbe  is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run
 
<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run
 
<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?
 
 
<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?
 
<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)
 
<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)
 
<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)
 
==videos==
==videos==
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.
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===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
===Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener===
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMT4ywd-yo0 Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04]
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveCbiHxjUQ and no joy sugar-emulator--200]


==notes==
==notes==
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==pages I watch==
==pages I watch==
[[16Sep9 Presentation of Sugar to Gnocode in New Orleans]]
[[Sugar Perspective]]
[[Make error on hulahop]]
[[Using Moodle as an Activity Host]]
[[Reporting a bug activity diagram with suggested solution]]
[[hotkeys]]
[[hotkeys]]


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