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~~A 12-person SOAS decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel~~|~~September, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.~~

== Mandate ==

==Overview==

{{~~quote~~|

:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:

A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.

:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

The Oversight Board requested a final report, but none was received [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|by 2009-12-04]]. The Oversight Board then assumed responsibility for deciding the mandated questions (ibid.). A summary [[#Conclusion|is below]].

:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

==Mandate==

{{Box|

:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:

:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

}}

== Members ==

* Sebastian Dziallas

==Members==

* Sebastian Dziallas

* Luke Faraone

* Martin Dengler

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* Caryl Bigenho

* Daniel Drake

* Abhishek Indoria

== ~~Process~~ ==

== Procedures ==

~~Discussion will take place on the~~ [~~http~~:~~//lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SOAS mailing list~~] ~~with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP~~]".

The [[:Decision panels#Procedures|Decision Panel procedures]] were adopted.

~~== Talk summaries ==~~

Discussion took place on the [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SoaS mailing list] with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".

~~Should Sugar Labs be a GNU~~/~~Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?<~~/b>

~~Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another? ~~

== Report ==

~~Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution? ~~

== Conclusion ==

Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?

In the [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|absence]] of a final report the Oversight board decided [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Question 1,]] [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|Question 2,]] and [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Question 3]]:

{{Box|

:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|No]]. SL wishes to spread the use of Sugar and consequently works with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.

:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|No.]] SL may promote one distribution in its marketing campaign, but encourages all GNU/Linux distributions to package and distribute Sugar, and if possible will assist with hosting and infrastructure.

:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Yes.]] "Sugar on a Stick" should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and process is put in place: SoaS will be the first project to go through that process.

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Sugar Labs' intent to promote Sugar as widely as possible]] means that SL will work with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.

}}

~~Potential naming conventions: ~~

==Further ideas==

* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>

~~There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life.~~

~~There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name.~~

* discussion of potential naming conventions.

* discussion of ''how'' to support products such as SOAS, and what that means

* exploration of what it means to "produce a distribution", which some active contributors felt was a huge effort and others felt was already being done, with most effort happening upstream. Better agreement within the community about what is being done may help avoid distracting meta-debates about direction.

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-A 12-person SOAS decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
+{{TOCright2|limit=2}}
-== Mandate ==
+==Overview==
-{{quote|
-:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
+A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
-:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
-:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+The Oversight Board requested a final report, but none was received [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|by 2009-12-04]].  The Oversight Board then assumed responsibility for deciding the mandated questions (ibid.).  A summary [[#Conclusion|is below]].
-:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
-:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
+==Mandate==
+{{Box|
+:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
+:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
+:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
+:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
 }}
-== Members ==
-*  Sebastian Dziallas
+==Members==
+* Sebastian Dziallas
 * Luke Faraone
 * Martin Dengler
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 * Caryl Bigenho
 * Daniel Drake
 * Abhishek Indoria
-== Process ==
+== Procedures ==
-Discussion will take place on the [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SOAS mailing list] with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".
+The [[:Decision panels#Procedures|Decision Panel procedures]] were adopted.
-== Talk summaries ==
+Discussion took place on the [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SoaS mailing list] with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".
-<b>Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?</b>
-<b>Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another? </b>
+== Report ==
+{{:Decision panels/SOAS/Report}}
-<b>Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution? </b>
+== Conclusion ==
-<b>Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution? </b>
+In the  [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|absence]] of a final report  the Oversight board decided [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Question 1,]] [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|Question 2,]] and [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Question 3]]:
+{{Box|
+:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|No]].  SL wishes to spread the use of Sugar and consequently works with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
+:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|No.]] SL may promote one distribution in its marketing campaign, but encourages all GNU/Linux distributions to package and distribute Sugar, and if possible will assist with hosting and infrastructure.
+:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Yes.]]  "Sugar on a Stick" should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and process is put in place: SoaS will be the first project to go through that process.
+:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Sugar Labs' intent to promote Sugar as widely as possible]] means that SL will work with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
+}}
-<b>Potential naming conventions: </b>
+==Further ideas==
-* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>
-There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life.
-There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name.
+* discussion of potential naming conventions.
+* discussion of ''how'' to support products such as SOAS, and what that means
+* exploration of what it means to "produce a distribution", which some active contributors felt was a huge effort and others felt was already being done, with most effort happening upstream.  Better agreement within the community about what is being done may help avoid distracting meta-debates about direction.
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