Oversight Board/Meeting Minutes-2021-03-03: Difference between revisions

<nowiki>Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Hi everyone.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

quozl

'ello.

llaske_

Hi all

sum2it

Hi all

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Hello Sugar Labs  

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Honored for the invitation

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Mariana Ludmila Cortés: just waiting for a few more people -- Claudia -- to show up

sum2it

Thanks for joining in, Mariana!

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Sure thing

mrbios

Hello folks

perrieee

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I think we have a quorum

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

let me run through a few bits of busy and then we can get to our main topic: OLPC/Sugar

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Nothing to report from Patty/Ombudsman

mrbios

Mariana Ludmila Cortés, thanks for joining us, I'm Alex Perez (SLOB member)

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

  Hola, Alex!

Samson Goddy

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés:

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Hi claudia

callaurrea

Hola!

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Samson. please give us an update

callaurrea

sorry... late a few min

Samson Goddy

Okay

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés: great to see you here

callaurrea

Sorry to miss the topic.. is Mariana going to give an update on OLPC. We want to take advantage of her visit.  

Samson Goddy

I think our scope will determine the budget, which I am welcome to work on. I know Claudia mentioned something on a project Idea

Alex Perez

I propose a separate Matrix room for ongoing discussion of GSoD between now and the deadline, at the conclusion of this meeting.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I could see 1-3 projects around support for teachers

llaske_

+1 Alex  

callaurrea

+1, Alex

Samson Goddy

Yes, but the intern should be getting around $4000

perrieee

I agree

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

maybe we get one each for Sugar, Music Blocks, Sugarizer

Samson Goddy

Sure

I can  

srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org)

There is a Sugar Labs Matrix community, which helps to keep all sugar labs channels together, I can invite those who are responsible for this.

srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org)

In the Sugar Labs community, we have #sugar-systems and #sugar so far

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I can help with any copy editing

Alex Perez

not a bad plan. Should we rewind and let Mariana give us an update? I don't know what her availability is like.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Yes... let's devote the rest of the meeting to Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Ready when you are.  

Chihurumnaya Ibiam

Hi Everyone.

callaurrea

we are

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

RE XO's: You might know they are not being manufactured any more, neither there are more that 100 in werehouse.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

What are you using these days?

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

To what I've heard,there are some XO's being used mainly by FZT Nicaragua and OLE Nepal, but  in the past 3 years Nicaragua was also using some Clamshells NL3's and in the past year they've switched to Chromebooks

Alex Perez

How do you feel the global Chromebook shortage is affecting OLPC, if at all? There have been major problems getting enough here in the US, over the past year, due to pandemic remote learning

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Is there interest in booting Linux on the Chromebooks or just Chrome OS -- the latter of course of interest to Lionel and Devin

callaurrea

Great to have more comprehensive information, if you have it.  

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

REason why, at the exact moment when I came back to OLPC, I was announced OLPC had become a Google partner to work with Chromebooks

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I missed that announcement

Chihurumnaya Ibiam

Yeah I heard that.

Alex Perez

has that been publicly announced yet? I don't get any results searching news for "OLPC Google"

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

FWIW, years ago we wrote a Sugar extension that interfaces between the Journal and GDrive. Not sure it still works

Sumit Srivastava

May I also ask if you can tell us about any numbers like how many are have been used recently (or in use), if you've any numbers about that? Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Alex Perez

    Is there interest in booting Linux on the Chromebooks or just Chrome OS -- the latter of course of interest to Lionel and Devin

llaske_

Do you have any contact in Peru where they deploy 120 000 Android tablets ?

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Mariana Ludmila Cortés: I am interest to know if there is a change in the approach to using the computer for learning with the Google move

llaske_

walterbender: unfortunatly no, my own attempt failed too

    has that been publicly announced yet? I don't get any results searching news for "OLPC Google"

 

    it seems like it would negatively affect the supply, with countries with more cash winning out

    Has OLPC redefine the mission? I am curious about your motivation to join OLPC.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés: how do they laptops get used in the schools? at home? at present... and how can we help shape that use

Alex Perez

good to know.

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés, I would encourage you to join the Sugar "IAEP" (It's An Education Project" mailing list, it is very low traffic normally. You can do so at http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Alex Perez

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés: I'm married to a fifth grade teacher, so I've witnessed first-hand how unprepared most teachers were, technologically, for a pivot to remote learning, over the past ~year

callaurrea

Is "course" the right bite?

    We've done workshops all over the world

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

 

    is it used at home?

        We've done workshops all over the world

    There you go, let's have that knowledge available for teachers from all around the world... in different languages.

As a clarifying question do you refer to conducting workshops/ making the workshop recordings available?

    What is the model? who is going to fund the development of the platform.. and more importantly, the materials, the engagement, the support... I know you have a lot of experience with communities of practice.  

Alex Perez

walterbender: and, frankly, to make music/CS teachers aware that both MusicBlocks, and the instructional material itself, exists.

callaurrea

open edX is the open platform

you can download and create courses... but your courses won't be included in edX

unless you are a paying member

callaurrea

edX (open edX) is not a good model of learning

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

Alex Perez: I had a good response from my workhop in Brazil last week

callaurrea

sequential.. lesson 1, lesson 2, etc

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

There are some nice extensions to Open edX -- labs

callaurrea

I don't know that the forum has gotten any better

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

So let's say that sugarlabs creates a course. It will be open for teachers, parents, kids to access it. If they want a diploma/certificate, they'll pay for what ever sugarlabs + olpc  define as a cost.  

callaurrea

membership and fundraising is what helps sustain.. I don't think credentials

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I don't know how edX works but there are lots of course hosting options

callaurrea

callaurrea

edX is the platform, is the partnership with universities and other organizations.. it is the fact that you can exchange micrometer credentials among members

quozl

Is there a recognised teaching certification that we could contribute to rather than be isolated?

callaurrea

teacher education and professional development need to be redesigned  

it is not just about the courses... we have a series of webinars on the topic (in MIT J-WEL)  

quozl

I don't know about other countries, but in Australia we have the AQF, the Australian Qualifications Framework, and every piece of learning and training of adults falls somewhere into categorisation within that framework.  Influencing the training of teachers requires a structured approach here.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Qualifications_Framework

quozl

I don't know about other countries, but in Australia we have the AQF, the Australian Qualifications Framework, and every piece of learning and training of adults falls somewhere into categorisation within that framework.  Influencing the training of teachers requires a structured approach here.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Qualifications_FrameworkAs far as I know, in India private schools (number of private schools is greater than government schools) are independent and can choose to partner with education service providers(for extra training, educational platforms or apps)... Not very sure about the procedure for government funded schools.

Alex Perez

How is OLPC's financial footing? I've always felt like it could just cease to exist one day, and it wouldn't surprise me

quozl

Student tracking implies someone will be needed for site administration duties.

Alex Perez

Mariana Ludmila Cortés: may I ask where you're georgraphically located? Just curious.

Mariana Ludmila Cortés: may I ask where you're georgraphically located? Just curious.Mexico

quozl

Jui, thanks.  Here, one can't teach without being trained to teach, irregardless of school funding model.  I've the certification, and I'm teaching theatre electronics at the moment.  :grin:

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Financially we might get some support from the bank in the beginning.  

quozl

Ibiam, we'd still need someone to be responsible for the minimal chores; handling questions from teachers (as students), administration of accounts, issuing certificates, everything open edx may leave to humans at present.

Chihurumnaya Ibiam

Yeah that makes sense.

Alex Perez

Here in the US, you can teach in a private school with no required credential, in most states. maybe all.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

I think the first step is to design a course... then we can figure out how to host it and support it.

quozl

Alex, that's wonderfully free.

Alex Perez

Mariana Ludmila Cortés: are you working full time at OLPC?

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

Chihurumnaya Ibiam

Be right back.

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

    I think if OLPC is interested in, for example Sugarizer, it would make sense to work together on materials for teachers

walterbender (@walterbender:matrix.org)

    or other ideas

llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org)

Will be happy to help here. Do not hesitate to contact me.  

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

My understanding is that they have also created a few activities in sugar.

Alex Perez

Mariana, how should we contact you? It seems like having a place to have group conversations between Sugar Labs Oversight Board and OLPC would be beneficial, to avoid creating silos of information/knowledge.

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

mariana@laptop.org

Alex Perez

ongoing conversations, that is

Mariana Ludmila Cortés

+52 442 483 9836

callaurrea

    I have to go.. great to "see" you again, Mariana

Chihurumnaya Ibiam

Bye callaurrea:

    Mariana Ludmila Cortés: I think it's a good thing you're back at OLPC