Talk:Features/Content support
I'd argue for a somewhat different approach to achieving the same goals. Instead of introducing yet another modal dialog, why not eliminate the list view and replace it with the star function in the Journal itself. Any object that is starred will show up on the Home View. (Ideally, there would be multiple stars corresponding to multiple Home Views, e.g., one for school, one for home...)
Features of this approach:
- No confusing list view
- Media objects in list view
- Utilization of star in Journal view which currently does nothing
- Reutilization of current Journal filters
--Walter 16:39, 20 July 2010 (EDT)
Home views as Journal favorites views
I imagine the Home view becoming tightly integrated with the Journal through the Journal favorites as Walter suggests.
The 'List' Home view should be replaced by a Journal icon that would take the learner to a "non-favorite"-limited filter in the Journal view of the currently-selected Home group. Where "Home group" would be the alternate views such as, School, Games, Music, Photos, etc., created by new Journal tagging features. (The default Home view, would continue to be the favorite list of installed Activities.)
A sub-row of Home group icons (which would instantly reveal on hover) would be provided on the Home view Frame button palette to allow the learner to jump to alternate Favorite views. The Favorites Home view button would gain the same sub-row palette, and the alternate view patterns would be a sub-palette that would reveal only on a persistent hover or right-mouse button click.
To complement the easy Journal access from the Home view, we should provide a direct Home view button on the Journal toolbar—the Journal Favorites view (aka, Home view). To conserve the valuable toolbar space, this should qualify for one of the corner positions. (Are we reserving the corners for alert beacons or what?)
--FGrose 16:33, 21 July 2010 (EDT) http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-July/025615.html describes a Journal group design to support Activity and content grouping. --FGrose 11:26, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
(Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access
Both of these comments break a pretty core concept of the current journal design, in my opinion.
http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg07888.html
- Amend the "non-favorite" filter above to include only learner-tagged objects/events. Then we could extend the Journal concept to My Journal and Others' Journals (some higher level filter with appropriate colors and names). This would accommodate shared Journals and the core content that came with the Sugar image. --FGrose 17:52, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
- This proposal somewhat exasperates the confusion over things pre-installed in the Journal, but this is a preexisting problem. --Walter 20:55, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
- True, but with the concept of My Journal vs. Others', a System Journal may come to conveniently represent the machine (with appropriate groups, such as event and error logs, that are more closely associated with the system vs. the learner). We could find a natural way to introduce pre-installed content, which, once activated, become learner Activity instances, such as the e-book with my annotations and last page number, etc. --FGrose 23:17, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
- It is the "natural way to introduce pre-installed content" part I still struggle with, but as I said, this is a preexisting problem and shouldn't be roadblock to this feature proposal. --Walter 08:22, 22 July 2010 (EDT)
- True, but with the concept of My Journal vs. Others', a System Journal may come to conveniently represent the machine (with appropriate groups, such as event and error logs, that are more closely associated with the system vs. the learner). We could find a natural way to introduce pre-installed content, which, once activated, become learner Activity instances, such as the e-book with my annotations and last page number, etc. --FGrose 23:17, 21 July 2010 (EDT)