Talk:Fedora
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Please consider reorganizing this page to start with the current stable release of Fedora and the easiest way to run Sugar with it. Follow that by sections for alpha/beta versions of Fedora Sugar, a short section with links to SoaS, and then links to subpages for ARM, PPC, & older versions of Fedora Sugar. Guidance for GNOME on Fedora and other peripheral content should also probably be on subpages. --FGrose 11:45, 30 June 2012 (EDT)
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Multiple Machine Caching with yum
- store rpms in a cache for installation to multiple Computers
Keyring Password Explained
what do you have to enter when connecting to wlan, the keyring password or the wlan-password? first i must enter the keyring password (root password here) and then i entered the wireless password the keyring-password should not be your root password, it should be your users password so automatically unlocking could work it may happen but during current session, after i reboot it appears again ok, it is the keyring issue, assuming your distro has configured keyring correctly, changing the password should work root pass? change the keyring password to your users password in settings ? in seahorse system settings? as user (the login-keyring) keyring is a way to store your "gnome" passwords So, with one password (the keyring one), you "auto-type" the passwords it contains if the keyring-password is your login password, it's automatically authenticated keyring stores the passwords encrypted with the according keyring-password, and automatic unlocking works by getting the password through pam on login through gdm and then use it to unencrypt the passwords - and that can only work if your login-password is the same as the keyring-password
why doesn't gnome 3 display "interactive dialogs" when applications ask for input
yes, also from gnome 3
when you run the shell script from nautilus, it doesn't display a dialog
"Enter passphrase for ..."
you can use zenity for that
try moving /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-session-check-accelerated.desktop somewhere else
didn't know you needed anything additional for that.. was it always like that or did gnome 2 have that by default?
maybe thats the seahorse/keyring integration, that stuff has changed quite a bit in 3.0
but i thought you meant a more generic approach of showing dialogs from scripts
i'm actually doing the ssh-add from a process spawned by a pygtk app
if it is only this specific case, you should probably still use keyring/seahorse (whatever should do that now) as it would not be passing around passwords unencrypted between processes (at least afaik)
worked!
do you somehow run gdm with a different driver or some weird setup like that?
so it's not possible to get the old behavior, and it needs some additional code to get it to work with seahorse/keyring?
which distro is this?
fedora 15 beta
i've tested the same code on fedora 14 and linuxmint (both gnome 2)
when the ssh-add {key_path} process is spawned, the GUI dialog appears asking you to type in your passphrase
ssh-add succeeds, and them the rest of the pygtk app continues
it doesn't even care whether the key is password protected or anything
i think there needs a daemon to be running that doesn't get started by fedora
this happens both in standard and fallback mode
try launching seahorse-daemon
AutoStart
ln -s /usr/share/applications/xxxx.desktop ~/.config/autostart/ don't remember if I had to manually add it to the startup apps (run gnome-session-properties) or using a preference in xxxx itself, but I have it running on login on my laptop. The icon shows up in the notification tray - mouse to the lower right corner to bring it up - this is where all legacy tray icons will show up.
fix screensize in sugar-emulator
terminal: su - (password) gedit /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop edit line 6: Exec=sugar-emulator -f (see how to configure full screen) save Logout login
show desktop as icon in favorites
add programs install "alacarte" open alacarte make new application command "nautilus Desktop" save Run from applications Make favorite
key shortcuts
* System (Windows) key: Switch between overview and desktop * Alt+F1: Switch between overview and desktop * Alt+F2: Pop up command dialog * Alt+Tab: Pop up window cycler * Alt+Shift+Tab: Cycle in reverse direction in the window cycler * Alt+`: Switch between windows of the same application in Alt+Tab * Ctrl+Alt+Tab: Pop up place cycler * Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R: Start and end screencast recording * Ctrl+Alt+D: Show desktop and raise windows back * Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down arrow: Switch between workspaces * Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Up/Down arrow: Move the current window to a different workspace Most keybindings can be viewed under the User Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts
List of Autostart programs when starting gnome-shell
ALT F2 gnome-session-properties
move intro screens that are too large for 800x600
- alt+f7 and then the arrow keys
- alt+f8 Resize
- shift and arrow keys
- https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262546
It's worth nothing, for Metacity >= 2.13.2, that if the window doesn't have a minimum size hint larger than the screen then Metacity will now force such windows to be onscreen (by shrinking and moving them as necessary). If the window has a minimum size hint larger than the screen, then the user can use alt+left-click-and-drag (or alt+f7 and then the arrow keys) to move the window upwards (including moving the titlebar offscreen) in order to get to the forward button. Yeah, that's just a workaround for windows that are too large, but it may be helpful information for those waiting for the UI changes to make the window usable on 800x600 resolutions. :) clip.... why not use a keyboard shortcut. the "next" button is marked "forward" so i hit alt + f and guess what, i was able to successfully install the program.
Reload shell ALT+F2 r (reload)
- use to recover Applications lists if they go missing and after alacarte edits
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
- How to show user pictures on the GDM LOGIN screen
- Click "my account" on the top panel lets me edit the picture, and
- adding a picture will show it on the GDM login screen.
If you hold down Alt, a 'Shut Down' option appears in place of suspend.
Alt+Tab switches between windows
- hot corner = upper left switches between shell and running applications
- Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application.
the Shell simply always behaves so there's exactly one empty workspace.
So when you start a session you have one workspace.
As soon as you run something it goes into that workspace and
you get a second empty workspace. As soon as you put any app into that
empty workspace, a new empty workspace is created. If you remove
everything from any workspace, it will disappear, so there's still only
one empty workspace at the bottom of the list. So, there's never any
need to manually add a new workspace. Pretty neat system.
GNOME 3 is not expected to work in virtualized environments
I've just installed F15 alpha in a virtualbox machine and at the first boot I
get a gnome 3 error explaining that it can't be fully initialised because 3D is
not supported.
GNOME3 is not expected to work in virtualized environments where
hardware accelerated graphics are not available.
From http://gnome3.org/faq.html ... The GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers capable of this. Do not worry though: GNOME 3 will come complete with a fallback interface which will provide an excellent experience in the absence of hardware acceleration, and which incorporates many of the improvements that can be found in GNOME 3. ------------------------------------------- test Digest, Vol 85, Issue 60, Message: 7 It's kind of a definition issue. GNOME *Shell* requires acceleration. But technically GNOME 3 does not; the fallback interface is still considered to be 'GNOME 3'. So you do need acceleration to get the Shell interface that's the 'big new thing' in GNOME 3, but still, if you don't have acceleration and you get the fallback interface instead, what you're running is still GNOME 3. Just GNOME 3's fallback interface. Adam Williamson Message: 8 In any case, VBox with 3d accelleration enables and 128MB for video memory is not sufficient for GShell. (VBox 4.0.4) Message: 13 Also, on that last note, we should clarify that right now Shell doesn't work even in virtualized environments where accelerated graphics *are* available, e.g. VirtualBox with appropriate hardware and drivers. In theory it should be possible to make this work, but in practice it currently doesn't. So there's two angles we can approach this from; make Shell run with software GL, or fix up Shell to work with virtualized graphics acceleration passthrough. But it's not at all guaranteed that we'll manage either in time for f15.
The minimum memory required is 1GB, due to anaconda changes.
When you see "populate_rootfs" in the panic, it's caused by that.
Fedora-16-vs-macbook-pro-or-air
- click this link ^
- Add features to Anaconda to aid installation on Apple computers https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503149
MacPro and f15 Boot
- Clips from #fedora-qa 04/04/2011 MacPro and f15 Boot
I have a macbook pro and have run fedora 14 on it with great success. 15 alpha, on the other hand, is not going well. The installation comes saying something about "installing *** on EFI ***" which i just dismiss/ignore, but when i try to boot after installation has completed, it wont. Just saying something like "no file found". Should i do something special to install 15 alpha on a EFI system? Yeah... you may have to run gptsync (I think that's what it's called) no, you don't need to install again, but you will need to gain access to the installed partitions from another system (whether it's a Fedora live image) referring to the gptsync that is provided be rEFIt I formatted the partition to make space for a working distro. i have refit installed and my mbp boots to that at startup by default. that didnt make 15 alpha work. 14 did though you may need to enter the boot partition tool from the rEFIt menu and when it asks to run gptsync, say yes okay. I will try to install again later and do that. Thank you so far. Will get back to you guys I belive anytime partitioning changes occur on a macbook, you do need to run gptsync. Since the EFI implementation by apple isn't fully compliant with the standard, extra steps are required you don't need to reinstall ... just run gptsync from the rEFIt menu just need to get your partitions synced up
testing os874 XO-1
- 08/03/2011
About my computer
Build 874 Sugar 0.92.2 Firmware Q2E45 Wireless 5.110.22.p23
Activities
- Note Spiral f3 home arrangement if all activites are favorites
- key
- *=not a favorite
speak 25 tamtamjam 56 tamtamedit 55 measure 32 *image viewer 17 browse 122.2 write 75 paint 34.1 moon 12 help 12 clock 6 chat 70 *tamtamsynth lab 55 scratch 19 memorize 36 ruler 8 *jukebox 21 distance 22 record 92.1 implode 10 *terminal 31 abacus 19 pippy 40 maze 9 tamtammini 58 calculate 37 etoys 113 *hellowworld 2 *log 24 fototoon 7 *read 90 turtle art 107
Collaboration Tests
os874 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5
os874 on XO-1 and git Soas-v5-Coconut (0.92.4)
- chat 70 has title displayed on 0.92.4 but not on 0.92.2
- connected users shown on joined Soas-v5 frame with correct names
- No joined users on Frame of XO-1
- Name displayed in chat is xxxx@jabber... form
Chat 70
- starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
- Sharing works either way
- Colors OK
testing os873 XO-1.5
- Tests run with No entry in jabber line of CP
- Due to jabber.sugarlabs.org bugs using sugar 0.92.x
About my computer
Build 873 Sugar 0.92.2 Firmware Q3B13 Wireless 9.70.7.po
Activities
- Note Spiral f3 home arrangement
- key
- *=not a favorite
speak 25 tamtamjam 56 turtle art 27 tamtamedit 55 Labyrinth 11 measure 32 image viewer 17* words 4 write 75 stopwatch 9 paint 34.1 moon 12 helloworld 2* clock 6 tamtamsynthlab 55* wikipediaEN 26 scratch 19 memorize 36 ruler 8 jukebox 21* distance 22 finance 3 infoslicer record 92 wikipedia 26 physics 8 implode 10 fototoon 7 read* abacus 19 pippy 40 maze 9 tamtammini 58 calculate etoys 113 get books 7 help 12 terminal 31* turtle art 107 browse 122.2 log 24* irc 10 chat 70
Collaboration
- os873 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5
Chat 70
- Wireless AP NO Jabber
- starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
- Sharing works either way
- Title transfers
- Colors OK
- Ad-hoc Network
- XO-1 Mesh Network 1>AD hoc Network 1 ; AD hoc Network 6; AD hoc Network 11 no avitars
- XO-1.5 AD hoc 1 on >shows as 4th connection point on X0-1 after 2 min
- XO-1.5 Click on AD hoc 1 and see avitars?
- starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
- Sharing works either way
- Title transfers
- Colors OK
- CONFUSING to get connection
testing os871 XO-1.5
- 07/04/2011 reflashed with USB
- kernel panic; reboot with USB inserted
-
- Power off
- OK on reboot
About my Computer
Serial Number:SHC04900144 Build 871 sugar 0.92.2 firmware Q3B13 wireless firmware 9.70.7p0
- XO-1.5 ON LOAN FROM OLPC
Testing
- Start Browse before jabber connection:
- Starts on first try
- Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
- Network ADD Jabber.sugarlab.org
- only see shared activities NO Avitars
- This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
- This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
- >Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
- Note: Failed to start on first try
- 15 sec grey until return to F3; works on 2nd try
- Activities only start on second try (get "failed to start" on first try)
- (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
- it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
- Suspect This delay with dbus timeout error seems to be related to jabber connection
- Start IRC-10.xo: Failed to start on first try; works on 2nd
- #sugar and #sugar-es (Default)
- Software Update
no updates found
- Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
Test with jabber turned off
- Erase jabber entry in Networks
- activities still require 2nd try but no 10 sec grey screen delay
- Bug frame becomes stuck and will not retract;
- Shutdown;reboot
- activities start on first try
- Frame retracts correctly
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031
- jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active
Activities
- key
- *=not a favorite
speak 25 tamtamjam 56 turtle art 27 tamtamedit 55 Labyrinth 11 measure 32 image viewer 17* browse 122.2 words 4 stopwatch 9 write 74 paint 34 moon 12 help 12 clock 6 chat 70 tamtamsynthlab 55* wikipediaEN 26 scratch 19 memorize 36 ruler 8 get books 7 distance 22 log 24* infoslicer 9 record 92 wikipedia 26 physics 8 implode 10 jukebox 21* terminal 31 abacus 19 pippy 40 maze 9 tamtammini 58 calculate 37 etoys 113 helloworld 2* finance 3 fototoon 7 read 89* turtle art 107
irc-10.xo (downloaded)
testing os871 on G1G1 XO-1
- 07/01/2011 reflashed with USB
Retest:07/05/2011 reflashed with USB
Testing without jabber connection
- CP/network line blank
- Browse starts on first try,,,
- Confirm that activities start on first try.
Jabber Bugs
Incomplete display of jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897 Several Activities fail to launch in crowded jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2892 jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031 (closed ericos see> 2892; 2897)
About my Computer
Build 871 sugar 0.92.2 firmware q2e45 wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23
- note very slow response
- Activities only start on second try (get "failed to start" on first try)
- (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
- it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
Testing
- Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
- >Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
- connects fine(on second try) to #sugar and #sugar-es(Default)
- >Connected to Jabber.sugarlabs.org
- only see shared activities NO Avitars
- This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
- This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
Activities
no updates found
- Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
- key
- *=not a favorite
speak 25 tamtamjam 56 tamtamedit 55 measure 32 image viewer 17* browse 122.2 write 74 paint 34 moon 12 help 12 clock 6 chat 70 tamtamsynthlab 55* scratch 19 memorize 36 ruler 8 jukebox 21* distance 22 record 92 implode 10 terminal 31* abacus 19 pippy 40 maze 9 tamtammini 58 calculate 37 etoys 113 helloworld 2* log 24* fototoon 7 read 89* turtle art 107
irc-10.xo (downloaded)