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: A tutorial is good, but should be entered by choice, as the style is so different. Perhaps the declarative guidance appears and it is followed by a collapsed tutorial section or a link to a section on a separate page of tutorials. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
: A tutorial is good, but should be entered by choice, as the style is so different. Perhaps the declarative guidance appears and it is followed by a collapsed tutorial section or a link to a section on a separate page of tutorials. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
::My model: Switch on, here is the manual. The sane thing to do is to read the manual. In reading on the reader trusts the editor to provide an insightful walk-through. The product is a children's educational tool. An editor is required to provide appropriate content. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::My model: Switch on, here is the manual. The sane thing to do is to read the manual. In reading on the reader trusts the editor to provide an insightful walk-through. The product is a children's educational tool. An editor is required to provide appropriate content. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::: Please forgive my misunderstanding of your intention. Although I suggested a similar model [[Talk:Crib_Sheet_day1#Comments|in this comment]], the wiki ''Get started'' pages serve in a different context, but could integrate tutorials in secondary views. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.
I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.
: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
: This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on [[wikipedia:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] ([[Wikipedia:Wiki#Navigation|described here]]). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)
:: The links to the Floss manual seem entirely appropriate. The link to [[olpc:Sugar_Control_Panel#Access_the_interface]] is the only link with which I have difficulty. I see that http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar/ch007_home-view/ would not make a good alternative. The other bug with the "current" version, is that reference to USA keyboard is '''hidden''' on opening. [[Sugar on a Stick/Explore]] is direct and helpful in addressing the keyboard issue to users outside the USA. My first motivation [[Talk:Getting_Started]] line 1, was to highlight this helpfulness, the "current" version obscures. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 18:12, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::: My attempt was to show how to reach the My Settings controls as fixed content under the Configuration heading (with a link available for more complete visualization and instructions), and then allow the readers to reveal additional topics that interest them. Keyboard layout, Internet, Frame, ... could each have expandable sections. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::: Thank you for continuing to experiment with page improvements. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 19:10, 7 December 2011 (EST)
: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)
: I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)