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| − | This is a page to discuss the Sugar Creation Kit.
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| − | ====[[File:CD.png]][http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/intro_to_sugar2.iso introduction to the sugar interface (CD.iso)]====
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| − | *Download-able 7.4M CD.iso file.
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| − | :This is a set of Annotated screen shots as Web Page.html files with the accompanying folder containing the files for the .html
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| − | :They were created with "save as" - "web page complete" using firefox. And subsequently edited in gedit.
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| − | *Uses:
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| − | :'''Intended to be run from a 2nd USB (or CD) where there is NO Internet Connection Available.'''
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| − | :A useful set of wiki pages that teach the basic operations of the Sugar-desktop
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| − | :"sneakernet" with no internet connection
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| − | :behind firewall at school.
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| − | :save bandwidth on servers.
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| − | :Download once and distribute copies locally
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| − | *Problem with Browse/Surf-115 in SoaS and the XO-1
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| − | :These browsers will not open the accompanying folder containing the files for the .html.
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| − | :This results in a web page with no links or .png screen-shots
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| − | :Firefox-6.xo handles this correctly
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| − | ::Note:Firefox-6.xo does not use or have sugar-journal access.
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| − | ::This means XO-1 security should not be compromised.
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| − | *Firefox-6.xo installed from this USB-stick has been successfully tested viewing the .html web pages on the USB-stick.
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| − | : a G1G1 XO-1 running os508dx - (Dextrose2)
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| − | : XO-1.5 running os874 - (sugar 0.92.1)
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| − | : a ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 Netbook - (Trisquel-5-Sugar) Live CD - NO Internet Connection
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| − | : a ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 Netbook - (f16-SoaS-Pineapple) Live CD - NO Internet Connection
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| − | : a MacBookPro i7 booted into OSX and running firefox for OSX ; '''Firefox-6.xo NOT used.'''
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| − | : VirualBox 4.1 for OSX with install of Sugar 0.95.1 in [[Community/Distributions/Mageia|Mageia]] release 2 (no other browser works on this Distro)
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| − | *Installation
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| − | :This .iso is intended to be burned to a CD
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| − | :The CD can be used directly or copy/paste the contents of the CD to a USB-Stick
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| − | :Insert the USB stick in your XO-1 USB slot
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| − | :[[Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop|Drag drop]] the Firefox-6.xo file from the 2nd USB-stick to the Journal - Install it
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| − | :'''TIP: Use the search box (______)''' on the left end of the sugar top bar to find "firefox"; This will find the Firefox-6.xo file more easily.
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| − | *Contents:
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| − | :ReadMeFirst.txt
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| − | :Firefox-6-xo - web browser
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| − | :Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface.html
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| − | :Connecting_to_the_Internet.html
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| − | :Drag-Drop.html
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| − | :How_to_use_IRC.html
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| − | :How_to_use_Chat.html
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| − | :Terminal.html - A downloaded .html from Floss [http://en.flossmanuals.net/terminal/ Floss Manuals]
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| − | *To Open Files in Firefox-6.xo
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| − | :1-)click on the xxxx.html file on the second USB when shown in the frame.
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| − | :select "start with firefox" on drop down menu
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| − | :2-)File/Open File/(choose 2nd USB)/select xxxx.html; hit return
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| − | *To Install files in Desktop
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| − | :when the xxxx.html page opens, choose File/"save page as"/(SAVE)
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| − | :This will (save/install) the xxxx.html and accompanying folder containing the files for the xxxx.html in the folder "Desktop"[1][2][3]
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| − | :[1] (home/olpc/.sugar/default/org.laptop.firefoxActivity/data/Desktop) - for the XO-1
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| − | :[2] (home/liveuser/.sugar/default/org.laptop.firefoxActivity/data/Desktop - for F16-Soas Live CD
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| − | :[3] file:///home/liveuser/Desktop/ xxxx.html - For '''f16 Liveusb-creator created USB-stick with persistence''' File/"save page as xxxx.html" choose Desktop (SAVE)
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| − | ::Booted from USB-stick reading files from CD
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| − | ::'''Files are permanently saved to the Desktop. CD is not needed
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| − | *To Set Firefox Default (HOME) Pages
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| − | :Persistent sugar only:
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| − | :Edit/Preferences/Use Current Pages (with xxxx.html loaded on tabs in browser.) Multiple tabs can be saved
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| − | :'''These pages load automatically on Re-starting the firefox-6.xo activity'''
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| − | *Screen-shots from XO-1
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| − | :[http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/firefox-6.xo '''Firefox-6.xo'''] views the .html files, from the USB-stick, correctly. and stores their bookmarks.
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| − | :[[File:XO1_How_to_use_Chat_-_Sugar_Labs_-_Mozilla_Firefox_.png|100px]]XO-1 Firefox-6.xo running Chat tutorial from 2nd USB-stick
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| − | :[[File:XO_1_Firefox_Dir.png|100px]] XO-1 "File Open" screen in Firefox-6.xo showing 2nd USB-stick with .html files and folders
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| − | :[[File:XO1_Home_.png|100px]] XO-1 Shows resource Usage
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| − | :Click on a screen-shot to enlarge them
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| − | : hit browser <== arrow to return
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| − | ==F15 netinstall Memory Requirements==
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| − | * Now talking on #fedora-bugzappers
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| − | Fri Feb 25 10:24:26 2011
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| − | abadger1999> Anyone here successfully used the netinstall.iso for rc1 alpha?
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| − | <abadger1999> In particular: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/15/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-15-x86_64-netinst.iso
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| − | <abadger1999> i'm not able to do an install -- I get a kernel oops while booting.
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| − | <abadger1999> This is in virt-manager -- x86_64 processor, kvm, x86_64
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| − | * abadger1999 tries x86 arch
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| − | <adamw> abadger1999: huh. i think it was tested.
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| − | <red_alert> I know of people who were using TC1 and TC2 netinst...no idea about rc1
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| − | <abadger1999> Still bad.
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| − | <abadger1999> trying to unpack the rootfs
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| − | <abadger1999> IIRC, I got this when I built my rawhide vm too... that's why I ended up installing F14 and then upgrading.
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| − | <red_alert> maybe another 32bit problem? ;)
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| − | * abadger1999 goes to find the x86_64 netinstall.
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| − | * abadger1999 checks if qemu works where kvm didn't
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| − | <wwoods> abadger1999: how much RAM?
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| − | <abadger1999> wwoods: 512MB
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| − | <wwoods> not enough
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| − | <wwoods> F15 will need at least 640MB
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| − | <wwoods> maybe 768
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| − | <abadger1999> wwoods: Okay.
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| − | * abadger1999 makes a vm with more ram
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| − | <abadger1999> wwoods: Is that something we can have the virt-manager guys change as a default?
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| − | <wwoods> I have a fix for that in the works but it's kind of invasive and may not be ready 'til F16
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| − | <wwoods> probably!
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| − | <wwoods> ISTR they do per-OS defaults, so we could have them default to 640/768MB specifically for Fedora 15 guests
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| − | <abadger1999> <nod>
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| − | <abadger1999> Sounds good.
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| − | * abadger1999 booting netinstall with more memory now
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| − | <abadger1999> wwoods: thanks! that was exactly the issue.
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| − | <wwoods> yeah, we're going to be seeing a lot of that one
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| − | <wwoods> tell your friends
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| − | <adamw> you get all kinds of weirdness trying to run f15 in 512MB
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| − | <adamw> it seems like it's nearly but not quite enough :)
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| − | <adamw> should probably mention that in commonbugs too
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| − | <fenrus02> adamw, 32b or 64b?
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| − | <adamw> fenrus02: 64
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| − | <fenrus02> adamw, limited testing, but i think it works if you do not use lvm
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| − | <wwoods>initrd.img is ~350 MB Uncompressed
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| − | * http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/15/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-15-x86_64-netinst.iso
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| − | This may be related to the fact that anaconda no longer has a stage 2 (from nirik fedora-qa)02/26/2011
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| − | ==Meego + Sugar==
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| − | *Download: https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-v1.2-netbooks
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| − | ===Install===
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| − | * Instructions:https://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook
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| − | :4GB USB
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| − | # dd bs=4096 if=meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0.img of=/dev/sdg
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| − | 221184+0 records in
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| − | 221184+0 records out
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| − | 905969664 bytes (906 MB) copied, 180.408 s, 5.0 MB/s
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| − | :Boot USB in ACER ASPIRE ONE N450
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| − | CD selection in boot
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| − | Install
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| − | external USB HD
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| − | sucess.
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| − | shutdown-usb
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| − | Reboot
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| − | boot HD
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| − | Works including wireless
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| − | *Specifications: http://wetab.mobi/en/product/
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| − | *Notes #sugar 06/23/2011
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| − | * mschuessler (~mschuessl@dslb-094-222-006-174.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #sugar
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| − | <mschuessler> i'm trying to use sugar on the wetab
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| − | <mschuessler> wich is a handheld - would virtual box drain the battery pretty fast?
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| − | <kevix> there are deb and rpm pacakges for sugar but dont know how it would install on 'meego'
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| − | <mschuessler> which
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| − | <mschuessler> i am actually quiete close
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| − | <satellit_afk> no it will be slower. Otherwise I have no suggestions...
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| − | <mschuessler> meego has a yum as package manager
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| − | <kevix> if you do try it, add your results to the sugarlabs wiki, if you can :)
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| − | <mschuessler> i already did
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| − | <mschuessler> it compiled succesfuly
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| − | .....
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| − | <mschuessler> however - the project im working on aims at running suagr on top of meego
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| − | <mschuessler> runing sugar on the weetab stanbdalone wont be a big problem
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| − | <mschuessler> i would just install fedora and put the sugar-emulator on it
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| − | <mschuessler> if you dont midn i would like to post the error message here when i try start the suagr-emulator on meego - maybe its just a missing depencie or something the like
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| − | <mschuessler> it runs an 1.66 GHz Intel Atom N450
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| − | <satellit_afk> yes I have a ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 here and it works great....
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| − | <mschuessler> what operating system?
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| − | <satellit_afk> runs fedora fine
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| − | <mschuessler> yeah fedora would run on the wetab too
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| − | ....
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| − | <mschuessler> but as i said - the project im working on aims at running thesugar interface on top of meego - so you could easly switch betwenn the two
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| − | <mschuessler> well and to the current state i managed to compile sugar and install all dpeencies i am aware of but i get the following error
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| − | <mschuessler> i have the feeling im really close to get it running
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| − | <mschuessler> The error is "no module named decorator" btw
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| − | <alsroot> mschuessler: you need to install python-decorator package (or how it is named in your distro)
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| − | <mschuessler> hey thx
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| − | <mschuessler> funny thing is - i just did
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| − | <satellit_afk> keep trying....people with knowledge are here at different times . also use mailing lists...sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
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| − | <mschuessler> and it fixed the error - yay!
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| − | ....
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| − | <mschuessler> now i get a dbus exception
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| − | <mschuessler> is that a familiar problem to you guys?
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| − | <alsroot> mschuessler: could you pastebin it
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| − | <kevix> mschuessler: could you say what kind of educational environment this is for?
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| − | <mschuessler> a school
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| − | <mschuessler> kids are aged 14 and up
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| − | <kevix> interesting.
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| − | <mschuessler> its an experiement - if kids would get along with a handheld in school
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| − | <kevix> there is the scratch and etoys environment which might be good be computational thinking/programming
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| − | <kevix> 'getting along' in an educational setting = ?
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| − | <mschuessler> well my project manager defintly wants etoys
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| − | <kevix> OLPC/Sugar is working on the XO-1.75, which is the precursor for the xo-3 (marvell ARM tablet). so they are working on how they will transition to a tablet paradigm
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| − | <mschuessler> yup i know
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| − | <mschuessler> put xo-3 is not here yet - an we get a couple of handheld devices for free
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| − | <mschuessler> so why not use sugar on those
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| − | <mschuessler> its a much better interface than the meego one (if use for education)
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| − | <kevix> hopefuly you can publish your result for olpc/sugar to see
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| − | <mschuessler> yup we will
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| − | <mschuessler> we document everything we try and what has worked and what not
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| − | <mschuessler> here is the current error btw: pastebin.com/DtyBD28m
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| − | <satellit_afk> do you have a wiki ? with these results?
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| − | <kevix> mschuessler: have you seen the videos from the recent edujam 2011 in Uraguy?
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| − | <mschuessler> no i havent seen them
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| − | <mschuessler> sry its http://pastebin.com/DTyBD28m
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| − | <mschuessler> were about wld i find those (videos)
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| − | <mschuessler> we do not currently run a wiki
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| − | <mschuessler> is guess publishing our results in the sugarlabs wiki would be a better aproch anyway
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| − | <satellit_afk> You may want to link it here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions
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| − | <alsroot> mschuessler: Re: http://pastebin.com/DTyBD28m -- do you have sugar-datastore installed? does "datastore-service" command start well?
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| − | <kevix> mschuessler: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/EduJAM/2011
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| − | <mschuessler> no it doenst - apparantly cjson seems not to be installed proberly
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| − | <mschuessler> i will fix this and tell you guys if i made a any process
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| − | <mschuessler> i have forwarded your sugestion to publish our apraoch under Community Distributions in the suagr wiki to my project manager
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| − | <mschuessler> it works! awesome!
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