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:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:  
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:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"  
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:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"  
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:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"  
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:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"  
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:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
 
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* Caryl Bigenho
 
* Caryl Bigenho
 
* Daniel Drake
 
* Daniel Drake
* Abhishek Indoria  
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* Abhishek Indoria
  
  
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Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"  
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Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
  
 
Answer: Yes.
 
Answer: Yes.
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{{quote|
:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:  
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:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"  
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:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"  
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:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"  
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:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"  
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:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
 
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* Caryl Bigenho
 
* Caryl Bigenho
 
* Daniel Drake
 
* Daniel Drake
* Abhishek Indoria  
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* Abhishek Indoria
  
  
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Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"  
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Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
  
 
Answer: Yes.
 
Answer: Yes.
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=====Question 1=====
 
=====Question 1=====
  
Yes:
 
  
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Sugar releases?"
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! Defer
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! Undecided/Abstain
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# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000100.html Sean Daly]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000100.html Sean Daly]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000029.html Bill Bogstead]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000029.html Bill Bogstead]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
 
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No:
 
 
 
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# Tabitha Roder
 
# Tabitha Roder
 
# Caryl Bigenho
 
# Caryl Bigenho
Undecided:
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Unknown:
 
 
 
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Luke Faraone
 
# Luke Faraone
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# Samuel Klein
 
# Samuel Klein
 
# Daniel Drake
 
# Daniel Drake
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=====Question 2=====
 
=====Question 2=====
  
 
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Yes:
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! For
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! Against
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! Defer
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! Invalid
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! Undecided/Abstain
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# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# Tabitha Roder
 
# Tabitha Roder
 
# Caryl Bigenho
 
# Caryl Bigenho
No:
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# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
 
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Undecided:
 
 
 
 
 
Unknown:
 
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Luke Faraone
 
# Luke Faraone
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# Samuel Klein
 
# Samuel Klein
 
# Daniel Drake
 
# Daniel Drake
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=====Question 3=====
 
=====Question 3=====
  
Yes:
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{|
 
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|+ Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
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! For
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! Against
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! Defer
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! Invalid
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! Undecided/Abstain
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|-
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# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000045.html Sean Daly]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000045.html Sean Daly]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria]
# Tabitha Roder  
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# Tabitha Roder
 
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No:
 
 
 
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler]
 
# Caryl Bigenho
 
# Caryl Bigenho
Undecided:
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# Bill Bogstad  (dependent on answer to question #1)
 
# Bill Bogstad  (dependent on answer to question #1)
 
 
Unknown:
 
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Sebastian Dziallas
 
# Luke Faraone
 
# Luke Faraone
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# Daniel Drake
 
# Daniel Drake
 
# Abhishek Indoria
 
# Abhishek Indoria
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====Further ideas====
 
====Further ideas====
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=====Potential naming conventions=====
 
=====Potential naming conventions=====
 
* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>
 
* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>
* There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life.  
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* There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life.
 
There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name.
 
There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name.
 
* Perhaps including the type of media in the name could be helpful, but with "sugar" themes. For example SD versions could be "Sugar Cookies," Live CD versions could be "Sugar Pies." That would make the above example "SugarPie4/PC/F11"(also from Caryl Bigenho)
 
* Perhaps including the type of media in the name could be helpful, but with "sugar" themes. For example SD versions could be "Sugar Cookies," Live CD versions could be "Sugar Pies." That would make the above example "SugarPie4/PC/F11"(also from Caryl Bigenho)

Revision as of 19:13, 7 October 2009

Origin

A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a September 25, 2009 Oversight Board decision.

Mandate

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Members

  • Sebastian Dziallas
  • Luke Faraone
  • Martin Dengler
  • Bill Bogstad
  • Faisal Khan
  • Benjamin M. Schwartz
  • Samuel Klein
  • Sean Daly
  • Tabitha Roder
  • Caryl Bigenho
  • Daniel Drake
  • Abhishek Indoria


Procedures

The Decision Panel procedures were adopted.

Discussion took place on the SoaS mailing list with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".


Report

this is a draft

Introduction

This constitutes the report of the SoaS decision panel (DP), convened by SLOB.

The structure of this report is:

  1. Introduction (this section)
  2. Executive Summary
  3. Mandate
  4. Members
  5. Report on Questions 1-3
  6. Conclusion
  7. Appendices


Executive Summary

The Decision Panel was mandated to answer three questions. The Decision Panel's answers are below:


Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

Answer: No, not now. SL is not now a full-service GNU/Linux distributor but 1) many contributors volunteer to help with individual tasks thereof; and 2) an official plan is part of a number of SugarLabs' members plans.


Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

Answer: No. Sugar On a Stick, the Fedora-derived distribution, will be the endorsed distribution.


Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

Answer: Yes.


In addition, the mandate allows the Decision Panel to raise and answer any other question the DP deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?" (Question 0).

The Decision Panel has not raised any additional questions.


Mandate

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Members

  • Sebastian Dziallas
  • Luke Faraone
  • Martin Dengler
  • Bill Bogstad
  • Faisal Khan
  • Benjamin M. Schwartz
  • Samuel Klein
  • Sean Daly
  • Tabitha Roder
  • Caryl Bigenho
  • Daniel Drake
  • Abhishek Indoria


Report on Questions 1-3

Question 1

Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

Answer: No, not now. SL is not now a full-service GNU/Linux distributor but 1) many contributors volunteer to help with individual tasks thereof; and 2) an official plan is part of a number of SugarLabs' members plans.


Question 2

Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

Answer: No. Sugar On a Stick, the Fedora-derived distribution, will be the endorsed distribution.


Question 3

Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

Answer: Yes.


Conclusion

Appendicies

Votes / Recorded opinions

Question 1
Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
Yes No Defer Invalid Undecided/Abstain
  1. Sean Daly
  2. Bill Bogstead
  3. Abhishek Indoria
  1. Martin Dengler
  2. Tabitha Roder
  3. Caryl Bigenho
  1. Sebastian Dziallas
  2. Luke Faraone
  3. Faisal Khan
  4. Benjamin M. Schwartz
  5. Samuel Klein
  6. Daniel Drake


Question 2
Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
For Against Defer Invalid Undecided/Abstain
  1. Martin Dengler
  2. Tabitha Roder
  3. Caryl Bigenho
  1. Abhishek Indoria
  1. Sebastian Dziallas
  2. Luke Faraone
  3. Martin Dengler
  4. Bill Bogstad
  5. Faisal Khan
  6. Benjamin M. Schwartz
  7. Samuel Klein
  8. Daniel Drake


Question 3
Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
For Against Defer Invalid Undecided/Abstain
  1. Sean Daly
  2. Abhishek Indoria
  3. Tabitha Roder
  1. Martin Dengler
  2. Caryl Bigenho
  1. Bill Bogstad (dependent on answer to question #1)
  2. Sebastian Dziallas
  3. Luke Faraone
  4. Faisal Khan
  5. Benjamin M. Schwartz
  6. Samuel Klein
  7. Daniel Drake
  8. Abhishek Indoria


Further ideas

Potential naming conventions
  • Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>
  • There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life.

There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name.

  • Perhaps including the type of media in the name could be helpful, but with "sugar" themes. For example SD versions could be "Sugar Cookies," Live CD versions could be "Sugar Pies." That would make the above example "SugarPie4/PC/F11"(also from Caryl Bigenho)