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First to type on your user:talk page, what an honor.  When it all seems like too much, as I'm sure it must, I've left something [[User:Cjl/Random_musings| here]] that I hope you might find amusing.  [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 20:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 
First to type on your user:talk page, what an honor.  When it all seems like too much, as I'm sure it must, I've left something [[User:Cjl/Random_musings| here]] that I hope you might find amusing.  [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 20:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
  
== Templates / Barnraising ==
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== Thought on translations ==
  
Do you know any way to bulk transfer templates from wiki to wiki? If no faster method is known, I've parsed a list of OLPC wiki templates (many will be applicable with minimal modifications) and placed it in [[User:Cjl/Sandbox]].  This page can facilite multi-window copy/paste review and transfer of templates. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 01:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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Before you spend a lot of time on translations via the translations template, consider the potential of the ''GoogleTrans-xx'' templates I'm starting to develop/deploy on OLPC wiki.  Note, it will require the same plugin/extension magic-dust currently installed on the OLPC wiki to be sprinkled here before they will work.
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*''GoogleTrans-en'' for starting from English page [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki#Machine_Translations (example)].  Click on Spanish and continue browsing rest of wiki in espanol inside Google frame.
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*''GoogleTrans-es'' for starting from Spanish page [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Lambayeque (example)].  Click English and see that page and any linked lang-es page in English.
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* 20-odd other variations possible
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The idea is that you want to lower language barrier, but you don't want your most valuable trilingual (1 lang-en, 2 lang-xx, 3 wiki/Python/C/Linux/Sugar/etc.) assets spending a lot of time on keeping up with rapidly evolving edits.  By the time a page becomes stable, it's probably too late to get meaningful input from a mono or bi-lingual non-lang-en audience (like teachers, local coders, etc.).
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For wiki pages, I think that any translation '''now''' is better than a great translation '''later'''.  Allows you to lower language barrier immediately (in a usually good enough manner) and reserve human translation effort for Pootle and tech-phrasing sensitive pages. Try the provided links to OLPC wiki and let me know what you think. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 19:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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:I was playing with it on the OLPC site earlier today. I agree, it is a decent compromise that is resource-efficient. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 21:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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== Current events date convention ==
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Walter,  I'm not sure I get the link-naming convention you are using on [[Archive/Current Events]].  The text there that says "2008-06-16" links to [[SugarLabs:Current_events/Archive/2006-06-24]].  Is one start of week and the other end of week?  You and I have reverted each other on this (maybe even twice), and that just seems like a silly misunderstanding to have. In the spirit of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD WP:BRD], I may just be missing the convention you are using and I'd like to I understand it[[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 18:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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:I need to move all the pages to the correct date. I accidentally started naming them based on the date I moved them into the archive instead of the date I created them. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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::I was assuming the date of publication on IAEP was the operative date and I had crossed-checked against the archives there to do the last rename/relinking I did yesterday, which you reverted todayNo point in operating at cross-purposes, so much to do to move forward without tripping over each other. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 21:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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:::I must be tired (I was up all night flying over the Atlantic and in meetings all day today--hence the late posting). I thought I was exposing the publication dates in IAEP even though the pages in the wiki. I defer to you. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 21:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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::I'll take another pass at it, carefully checking against the IAEP archive pages again.  I do much of my wiki editing from 22:00 - 03:00 local time, so I'm just as susceptible to error as the next guy :-) [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 21:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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== transactions discussion ==
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Moved to [[Sugar_Labs/Governance/Transactions]]
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== Cambodia ==
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Hi Walter, I'm a former OLPC-EU employee in Brussels, preparing a trip to visit my wife's family in Cambodia and to meet the Minister of Education of Cambodia.  Saw you on http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_Cambodia&action=history  ... do you have any special interest to Cambodia in particular? Can you team-up / coach me? Thx
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: My recommendation is to contact Elaine Negroponte, who was there from the beginning and is still carrying on. Also, there is a chapter on Cambodia in my book, [http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Change-World-Social-Impact/dp/0230337317/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1358609557&sr=1-1&keywords=walter+bender Learning to Change the World].

Latest revision as of 11:33, 19 January 2013

First to type on your user:talk page, what an honor. When it all seems like too much, as I'm sure it must, I've left something here that I hope you might find amusing. Cjl 20:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thought on translations

Before you spend a lot of time on translations via the translations template, consider the potential of the GoogleTrans-xx templates I'm starting to develop/deploy on OLPC wiki. Note, it will require the same plugin/extension magic-dust currently installed on the OLPC wiki to be sprinkled here before they will work.

  • GoogleTrans-en for starting from English page (example). Click on Spanish and continue browsing rest of wiki in espanol inside Google frame.
  • GoogleTrans-es for starting from Spanish page (example). Click English and see that page and any linked lang-es page in English.
  • 20-odd other variations possible

The idea is that you want to lower language barrier, but you don't want your most valuable trilingual (1 lang-en, 2 lang-xx, 3 wiki/Python/C/Linux/Sugar/etc.) assets spending a lot of time on keeping up with rapidly evolving edits. By the time a page becomes stable, it's probably too late to get meaningful input from a mono or bi-lingual non-lang-en audience (like teachers, local coders, etc.).

For wiki pages, I think that any translation now is better than a great translation later. Allows you to lower language barrier immediately (in a usually good enough manner) and reserve human translation effort for Pootle and tech-phrasing sensitive pages. Try the provided links to OLPC wiki and let me know what you think. Cjl 19:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I was playing with it on the OLPC site earlier today. I agree, it is a decent compromise that is resource-efficient. --Walter 21:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Current events date convention

Walter, I'm not sure I get the link-naming convention you are using on Archive/Current Events. The text there that says "2008-06-16" links to SugarLabs:Current_events/Archive/2006-06-24. Is one start of week and the other end of week? You and I have reverted each other on this (maybe even twice), and that just seems like a silly misunderstanding to have. In the spirit of WP:BRD, I may just be missing the convention you are using and I'd like to I understand it. Cjl 18:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I need to move all the pages to the correct date. I accidentally started naming them based on the date I moved them into the archive instead of the date I created them. --Walter 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I was assuming the date of publication on IAEP was the operative date and I had crossed-checked against the archives there to do the last rename/relinking I did yesterday, which you reverted today. No point in operating at cross-purposes, so much to do to move forward without tripping over each other. Cjl 21:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I must be tired (I was up all night flying over the Atlantic and in meetings all day today--hence the late posting). I thought I was exposing the publication dates in IAEP even though the pages in the wiki. I defer to you. --Walter 21:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll take another pass at it, carefully checking against the IAEP archive pages again. I do much of my wiki editing from 22:00 - 03:00 local time, so I'm just as susceptible to error as the next guy :-) Cjl 21:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

transactions discussion

Moved to Sugar_Labs/Governance/Transactions

Cambodia

Hi Walter, I'm a former OLPC-EU employee in Brussels, preparing a trip to visit my wife's family in Cambodia and to meet the Minister of Education of Cambodia. Saw you on http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_Cambodia&action=history ... do you have any special interest to Cambodia in particular? Can you team-up / coach me? Thx

My recommendation is to contact Elaine Negroponte, who was there from the beginning and is still carrying on. Also, there is a chapter on Cambodia in my book, Learning to Change the World.