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=== discussion ===
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from [http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2011-02-13#i_2629420 2011-02-13 Design meeting]:
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[09:05] <garycmartin> #topic Issue with icon size in Random Layout home view
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[09:05] <walterbender> as background, when we added the spiral, I upped the maximum size of icons to Medium when there were just a few icons
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[09:06] <walterbender> if you switch to Random View, it ends up making the icons Standard size when you move them.
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[09:06] <walterbender> Question is: what size should icons be in Random view? should the size change wit density?
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[09:06] <garycmartin> walterbender: is it possible to have the behave as they did before and avoid needing to make a new specific choice?
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[09:06] <walterbender> (let's not spend a lot of time on this one: pretty minor point)
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[09:07] <christianmarcsch> quick question: by random view, i assume you mean freeform?
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[09:07] <walterbender> garycmartin: sure: I can make them all map to standard size. (yes freeform -- it is called random in the code)
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[09:07] <christianmarcsch> is there a screenshot posted somewhere?
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[09:08] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: I didn't make one... I could while we move on to the next topic
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[09:08] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: thanks, that would help.
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[09:09] <garycmartin> walterbender: If we go with scaling the icons based on count, then free form patterns people make would need shuffling as the size scaled, would be frustrating I think.
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[09:09] <walterbender> garycmartin: I agree...
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[09:09] <walterbender> garycmartin: so probably we should just pick one size.
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[09:10] <walterbender> garycmartin: but the old code just assumed a maximum size... doesn't really handle the situation properly
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[09:10] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: could we pick one size for random view, but still have the other view scale?
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[09:10] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: yes.
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[09:10] <garycmartin> walterbender: the freeform layout does not have such a hard limit on the number that can fit in a fixed layout (which is where the auto scaling really helps).
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[09:10] <walterbender> garycmartin: agreed.
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[09:10] <walterbender> so the question is simply, what size?
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[09:11] <walterbender> so I will make a screen shot or two to show you
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[09:11] <christianmarcsch> ok, perfect
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[09:11] <garycmartin> walterbender:  what is the size of the icon that is directly under the large central XO? Seems like that should the the default in that zoom view.
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[09:11] <walterbender> garycmartin: that is Standard size
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[09:12] <walterbender> garycmartin: actually, I find it confusing sometimes that that icon doesn't move and the others do, so I would argue a different size would help (or some other distinction)
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[09:13] <garycmartin> walterbender: yes fair point, especially in freeform layout where icons can clobber near there.
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[09:13] <walterbender> well, let me make the screen shots... meanwhile, shall we discuss the Mute button?
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[09:13] <garycmartin> walterbender: (but it still seemed about the right size ;-)
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[09:13] <walterbender> garycmartin: yes. I agree
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[09:28] <christianmarcsch> so, i agree that if we had to go with one size, standard size probably works best
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[09:28] <christianmarcsch> medium looks good, but will only work for a small number of icons
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[09:28] <christianmarcsch> i also see walter
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[09:28] <christianmarcsch> 's point about differentiating the icon below the XO
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[09:29] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: well, you can pack quite a few in if you have all the screen even at Medium size
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[09:29] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: visually, i'd be inclined to go with medium
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[09:29] <walterbender> probably 100 or more
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[09:29] <garycmartin> walterbender: can we have a larger hit mask area around the central XO icon in freeform mode to make sure there is reasonable white space?
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[09:29]  * silbe whispers: Let's drop it... :D
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[09:29] <walterbender> garycmartin: I like that suggestion
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[09:30] <christianmarcsch> garycmartin: the whitespace would help, and we may not need to otherwise differentiate the size of the icon
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[09:30] <walterbender> let me make some more sketches based on this feedback and maybe we can revisit this through email?
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[09:30] <christianmarcsch> ok
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[09:31] <christianmarcsch> one thing i'd add:
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[09:31] <christianmarcsch> it would be nice if we could also make the icon under the XO medium, with added whitespace
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[09:31] <walterbender> I need to check, but I don't think Freeform puts any protected zone around the center of the screen... leaves that to the user.
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[09:31] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: I'll try that option as well
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[09:32] <walterbender> #agreed that walter will present more sketches in an email thread
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As per the discussion, these screenshots have a Medium icon and more space around the central XO
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<gallery>
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File:Spiral-standard-size-medium-active-icon.png|standard size
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File:Freeform-standard-size-medium-active-icon.png|standard size
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File:Spiral-medium-size-medium-active-icon.png|medium size
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File:Freeform-medium-size-medium-active-icon.png|medium size
 
</gallery>
 
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Latest revision as of 14:40, 27 February 2011

What size should the icons be in Freeform view? Should they always be the same size?

  • standard size

  • standard size

  • medium size

  • medium size

discussion

from 2011-02-13 Design meeting: 

[09:05] <garycmartin> #topic Issue with icon size in Random Layout home view
[09:05] <walterbender> as background, when we added the spiral, I upped the maximum size of icons to Medium when there were just a few icons
[09:06] <walterbender> if you switch to Random View, it ends up making the icons Standard size when you move them.
[09:06] <walterbender> Question is: what size should icons be in Random view? should the size change wit density?
[09:06] <garycmartin> walterbender: is it possible to have the behave as they did before and avoid needing to make a new specific choice?
[09:06] <walterbender> (let's not spend a lot of time on this one: pretty minor point)
[09:07] <christianmarcsch> quick question: by random view, i assume you mean freeform?
[09:07] <walterbender> garycmartin: sure: I can make them all map to standard size. (yes freeform -- it is called random in the code)
[09:07] <christianmarcsch> is there a screenshot posted somewhere?
[09:08] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: I didn't make one... I could while we move on to the next topic
[09:08] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: thanks, that would help.
[09:09] <garycmartin> walterbender: If we go with scaling the icons based on count, then free form patterns people make would need shuffling as the size scaled, would be frustrating I think.
[09:09] <walterbender> garycmartin: I agree...
[09:09] <walterbender> garycmartin: so probably we should just pick one size.
[09:10] <walterbender> garycmartin: but the old code just assumed a maximum size... doesn't really handle the situation properly
[09:10] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: could we pick one size for random view, but still have the other view scale?
[09:10] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: yes.
[09:10] <garycmartin> walterbender: the freeform layout does not have such a hard limit on the number that can fit in a fixed layout (which is where the auto scaling really helps).
[09:10] <walterbender> garycmartin: agreed.
[09:10] <walterbender> so the question is simply, what size?
[09:11] <walterbender> so I will make a screen shot or two to show you
[09:11] <christianmarcsch> ok, perfect
[09:11] <garycmartin> walterbender:  what is the size of the icon that is directly under the large central XO? Seems like that should the the default in that zoom view.
[09:11] <walterbender> garycmartin: that is Standard size
[09:12] <walterbender> garycmartin: actually, I find it confusing sometimes that that icon doesn't move and the others do, so I would argue a different size would help (or some other distinction)
[09:13] <garycmartin> walterbender: yes fair point, especially in freeform layout where icons can clobber near there.
[09:13] <walterbender> well, let me make the screen shots... meanwhile, shall we discuss the Mute button?
[09:13] <garycmartin> walterbender: (but it still seemed about the right size ;-)
[09:13] <walterbender> garycmartin: yes. I agree
[09:28] <christianmarcsch> so, i agree that if we had to go with one size, standard size probably works best
[09:28] <christianmarcsch> medium looks good, but will only work for a small number of icons
[09:28] <christianmarcsch> i also see walter
[09:28] <christianmarcsch> 's point about differentiating the icon below the XO
[09:29] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: well, you can pack quite a few in if you have all the screen even at Medium size
[09:29] <christianmarcsch> walterbender: visually, i'd be inclined to go with medium
[09:29] <walterbender> probably 100 or more
[09:29] <garycmartin> walterbender: can we have a larger hit mask area around the central XO icon in freeform mode to make sure there is reasonable white space?
[09:29]  * silbe whispers: Let's drop it... :D
[09:29] <walterbender> garycmartin: I like that suggestion
[09:30] <christianmarcsch> garycmartin: the whitespace would help, and we may not need to otherwise differentiate the size of the icon
[09:30] <walterbender> let me make some more sketches based on this feedback and maybe we can revisit this through email?
[09:30] <christianmarcsch> ok
[09:31] <christianmarcsch> one thing i'd add:
[09:31] <christianmarcsch> it would be nice if we could also make the icon under the XO medium, with added whitespace
[09:31] <walterbender> I need to check, but I don't think Freeform puts any protected zone around the center of the screen... leaves that to the user.
[09:31] <walterbender> christianmarcsch: I'll try that option as well
[09:32] <walterbender> #agreed that walter will present more sketches in an email thread

As per the discussion, these screenshots have a Medium icon and more space around the central XO

  • standard size

  • standard size

  • medium size

  • medium size

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