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:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution

:works fine for 11.04 Linux Mint 11 I did this and it worked but alsroot wanted me to not put it on the wiki. It installs sweets-sugar 0.94.1 [[User:Satellit]] 9 Dec 2011

::Link: [[Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Installing_sweets-sugar_from_Fedora_16_GNOME_3_Terminal|Installing_sweets-sugar_from_Fedora_16_GNOME_3_Terminal]]

:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Sweets

== Exploring extra documentation ==

Expanding central section of [[Platform Team/Guide/Sweets Usage]]] ...

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Then "packagekit" and issues, then download and run script "installer.sh"

Then, "After installing PackageKit, you need to restart the DBus system bus." or "Relogin from X session"

Then, "After installing PackageKit, you need to restart the DBus system bus," "Relogin from X session," or "Restart the machine"

: Minor issue 1. a) "Restart the machine" seems clumsy. b) distro-non-specific instructions ~~I guess are~~ too difficult. It might be nice to include, say, the best available outside tutorial, even if only to demonstrate good practice?

: Minor issue 1. a) "Restart the machine" seems clumsy. b) I guess distro-non-specific instructions may be too difficult? It might be nice to include, say, the best available outside tutorial, even if only to demonstrate good practice?

''Alternatively, {{Code|sweets}} might be run from the [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Packaging#Run_Sweets_from_sources|sources]].''

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Another's '''name''' (alternate usage ''<SWEET>'') is dextrose/sugar.

<s>look at : [[Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Notes_on_how_to_start_0.88_or_0.94| How to start 0.88 or 0.94 Sweets Sugar]]--[[User:Satellit|Satellit]] 15:42, 21 December 2011 (EST). Thanks, added in next paragraph.</s>

: These lines aim to draw attention a perceived difficulty in nomenclature. Improved wording welcome.

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sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator

~~: adding~~ -S ~~forces ... wording is not~~ to ~~hand.~~

To explain,

we add an option, -S ( = --force-suggested) to force, using suggested dependencies

Hopefully one of those commands opened Sugar for you.

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sweets -S sdk/sugar:emulator

we can also add an option to the emulator, for example,

sweets sdk/sugar:emulator -f

will ask the emulator to open, full screen.

'''If you have Sugar running - Explore'''

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the command {{Code|sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator}} invoked a massive download of packages - @alsroot what changed?

: Snip from IRC #sugar-newbies, [21:25] <alsroot> the sweet "base/x11-libs" had a bug that was found in mint

'''What would an experienced user do next?'''

~~'''What would an experienced user do next~~?~~'''~~

I think it is worth discussing, and I am not sure about this, some investigatory commands gave misleading answers, I feel because the whole toolbox was not present.

Have I drawn the wrong conclusion?

~~I think it is worth discussing, and I am not sure about this, in this situation (in my experience) many investigatory commands gave misleading answers, I feel because the whole toolbox was not present~~. ~~Have I drawn~~ the ~~wrong conclusion~~?

A question regarding -R option. Would the -R option eg:

sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator

be superfluous straight after {{code|sweets upgrade}}?

I am currently in the above described situation with Sweets on Debian Wheezy. What is suggested here, I will test there.

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 :http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution
 :works fine for 11.04 Linux Mint 11  I did this and it worked but alsroot wanted me to not put it on the wiki. It installs sweets-sugar 0.94.1 [[User:Satellit]] 9 Dec 2011
+::Link:  [[Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Installing_sweets-sugar_from_Fedora_16_GNOME_3_Terminal|Installing_sweets-sugar_from_Fedora_16_GNOME_3_Terminal]]
+:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#Sweets
 == Exploring extra documentation ==
 Expanding central section of [[Platform Team/Guide/Sweets Usage]]] ...
@@ Line 23: / Line 26: @@
 Then "packagekit" and issues, then download and run script "installer.sh"
-Then, "After installing PackageKit, you need to restart the DBus system bus." or "Relogin from X session"
+Then, "After installing PackageKit, you need to restart the DBus system bus,"  "Relogin from X session," or "Restart the machine"
-: Minor issue 1. a) "Restart the machine" seems clumsy. b) distro-non-specific instructions I guess are too difficult. It might be nice to include, say, the best available outside tutorial, even if only to demonstrate good practice?
+: Minor issue 1. a) "Restart the machine" seems clumsy. b) I guess distro-non-specific instructions  may be too difficult? It might be nice to include, say, the best available outside tutorial, even if only to demonstrate good practice?
 ''Alternatively, {{Code|sweets}} might be run from the [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Packaging#Run_Sweets_from_sources|sources]].''
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 Another's '''name''' (alternate usage ''<SWEET>'') is dextrose/sugar.
+<s>look at :  [[Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Notes_on_how_to_start_0.88_or_0.94| How to start 0.88 or 0.94 Sweets Sugar]]--[[User:Satellit|Satellit]] 15:42, 21 December 2011 (EST). Thanks, added in next paragraph.</s>
 : These lines aim to draw attention a perceived difficulty in nomenclature. Improved wording welcome.
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   sweets -S dextrose/sugar:emulator
-: adding -S forces ... wording is not to hand.
+To explain,
+we add an option, -S ( = --force-suggested) to force, using suggested dependencies
 Hopefully one of those commands opened Sugar for you.
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   sweets -S sdk/sugar:emulator
+we can also add an option to the emulator, for example,
+ sweets sdk/sugar:emulator -f
+will ask the emulator to open, full screen.
 '''If you have Sugar running - Explore'''
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 the command {{Code|sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator}} invoked a massive download of packages -  @alsroot what changed?
+: Snip from IRC #sugar-newbies, [21:25] <alsroot> the sweet "base/x11-libs" had a bug that was found in mint
+'''What would an experienced user do next?'''
-'''What would an experienced user do next?'''
+I think it is worth discussing, and I am not sure about this, some investigatory commands gave misleading answers, I feel because the whole toolbox was not present.
+Have I drawn the wrong conclusion?
-I think it is worth discussing, and I am not sure about this, in this situation (in my experience) many investigatory commands gave misleading answers, I feel because the whole toolbox was not present. Have I drawn the wrong conclusion?
+A question regarding -R option. Would the -R option eg:
+ sweets -R sdk/sugar:emulator
+be superfluous straight after {{code|sweets upgrade}}?
 I am currently in the above described situation with Sweets on Debian Wheezy. What is suggested here, I will test there.