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| Please consider reorganizing this page to start with the current stable release of Fedora and the easiest way to run Sugar with it. Follow that by sections for alpha/beta versions of Fedora Sugar, a short section with links to SoaS, and then links to subpages for ARM, PPC, & older versions of Fedora Sugar. Guidance for GNOME on Fedora and other peripheral content should also probably be on subpages. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 11:45, 30 June 2012 (EDT) | | Please consider reorganizing this page to start with the current stable release of Fedora and the easiest way to run Sugar with it. Follow that by sections for alpha/beta versions of Fedora Sugar, a short section with links to SoaS, and then links to subpages for ARM, PPC, & older versions of Fedora Sugar. Guidance for GNOME on Fedora and other peripheral content should also probably be on subpages. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 11:45, 30 June 2012 (EDT) |
| | :Pages split --[[User:Satellit|Satellit]] 20:49, 12 December 2012 (EST) |
| | ::Having now created pages for Fedora 18, 19, and 20, entry level Sugar information (however up to date) remains, but mixed in with [legacy] Fedora 17. I propose moving all Sugar material, (which I would like to expand) above Fedora 17 material on this page. I wonder whether later, a new page for Fedora 17, would fit better with the current Fedora page naming? Any better suggestions? --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] ([[User talk:Inkyfingers|talk]]) 17:59, 12 October 2013 (EDT) |
| | ::: I would like this page to be the primary location for information on using '''Sugar''' on the current stable release of Fedora (as suggested in the first sentence above), and so, would have to be edited to remain current. The Fedora NN pages should address any special version-specific information or testing, advice, etc., and be considered as secondary pages, which naturally become dated with time. So, yes I agree that the Fedora 17 content could be moved to a Fedora 17 page, and this page always updated for the easiest way to run Sugar on the current version of Fedora. Information not related to running Sugar on Fedora should be minimal on this page. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] ([[User talk:FGrose|talk]]) 19:41, 12 October 2013 (EDT) |
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| ====Multiple Machine Caching with yum==== | | ====Multiple Machine Caching with yum==== |
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| | == GNOME3 default software installer fails to find Sugar == |
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| ==testing os874 XO-1==
| | >"Fedora 20's default GNOME3 graphical software installer tool fails to find Sugar, reportedly as Sugar is not considered to be an 'application'." |
| : 08/03/2011
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| ===About my computer===
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| Build 874
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| Sugar 0.92.2
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| Firmware Q2E45
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| Wireless 5.110.22.p23
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| ===Activities===
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| * Note Spiral f3 home arrangement if all activites are favorites
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| ;key: *=not a favorite
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| speak 25
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| tamtamjam 56
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| tamtamedit 55
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| measure 32
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| *image viewer 17
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| browse 122.2
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| write 75
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| paint 34.1
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| moon 12
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| help 12
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| clock 6
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| chat 70
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| *tamtamsynth lab 55
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| scratch 19
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| memorize 36
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| ruler 8
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| *jukebox 21
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| distance 22
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| record 92.1
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| implode 10
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| *terminal 31
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| abacus 19
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| pippy 40
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| maze 9
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| tamtammini 58
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| calculate 37
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| etoys 113
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| *hellowworld 2
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| *log 24
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| fototoon 7
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| *read 90
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| turtle art 107
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| ===Collaboration Tests===
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| ====os874 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5====
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| ====os874 on XO-1 and git Soas-v5-Coconut (0.92.4) ====
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| ::chat 70 has title displayed on 0.92.4 but not on 0.92.2
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| ::connected users shown on joined Soas-v5 frame with correct names
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| :::No joined users on Frame of XO-1
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| :::Name displayed in chat is xxxx@jabber... form
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| ====Chat 70====
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| :starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
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| ::Sharing works either way
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| ::Colors OK
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| ==testing os873 XO-1.5==
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| : Tests run with No entry in jabber line of CP
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| ::Due to jabber.sugarlabs.org bugs using sugar 0.92.x
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| ===About my computer===
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| Build 873
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| Sugar 0.92.2
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| Firmware Q3B13
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| Wireless 9.70.7.po
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| ===Activities===
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| * Note Spiral f3 home arrangement
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| ;key: *=not a favorite
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| speak 25
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| tamtamjam 56
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| turtle art 27
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| tamtamedit 55
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| Labyrinth 11
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| measure 32
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| image viewer 17*
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| words 4
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| write 75
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| stopwatch 9
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| paint 34.1
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| moon 12
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| helloworld 2*
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| clock 6
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| tamtamsynthlab 55*
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| wikipediaEN 26
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| scratch 19
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| memorize 36
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| ruler 8
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| jukebox 21*
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| distance 22
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| finance 3
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| infoslicer
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| record 92
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| wikipedia 26
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| physics 8
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| implode 10
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| fototoon 7
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| read*
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| abacus 19
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| pippy 40
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| maze 9
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| tamtammini 58
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| calculate
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| etoys 113
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| get books 7
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| help 12
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| terminal 31*
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| turtle art 107
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| browse 122.2
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| log 24*
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| irc 10
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| chat 70
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| ===Collaboration===
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| : os873 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5
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| ====Chat 70====
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| *'''Wireless AP NO Jabber'''
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| :starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
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| ::Sharing works either way
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| ::Title transfers
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| ::Colors OK
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| *'''Ad-hoc Network'''
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| :XO-1 Mesh Network 1>AD hoc Network 1 ; AD hoc Network 6; AD hoc Network 11 '''no avitars
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| :XO-1.5 AD hoc 1 on >shows as 4th connection point on X0-1 after 2 min
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| ::XO-1.5 Click on AD hoc 1 and see avitars?
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| :starts from either XO-1 or XO-1.5
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| ::Sharing works either way
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| ::Title transfers
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| ::Colors OK
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| *CONFUSING to get connection
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| ==testing os871 XO-1.5==
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| :07/04/2011 reflashed with USB
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| ;kernel panic; reboot with USB inserted
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| ::Power off
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| ::OK on reboot
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| ===About my Computer===
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| Serial Number:SHC04900144
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| Build 871
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| sugar 0.92.2
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| firmware Q3B13
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| wireless firmware 9.70.7p0
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| ;XO-1.5 ON LOAN FROM OLPC
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| ::http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5
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| ===Testing===
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| *Start Browse before jabber connection:
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| :'''Starts on first try'''
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| *Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
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| *Network ADD Jabber.sugarlab.org
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| :only see shared activities NO Avitars
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| ::This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
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| http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845
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| http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
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| :::This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
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| *>Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
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| *Note: Failed to start on first try
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| : 15 sec grey until return to F3; works on 2nd try
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| *'''Activities only start on second try''' (get "failed to start" on first try)
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| : (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
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| : it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
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| :'''Suspect This delay with dbus timeout error seems to be related to jabber connection'''
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| *Start IRC-10.xo: Failed to start on first try; works on 2nd
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| : #sugar and #sugar-es (Default)
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| *Software Update
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| no updates found
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| :Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
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| ::http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1
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| ===Test with jabber turned off===
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| :Erase jabber entry in Networks
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| :activities still require 2nd try but no 10 sec grey screen delay
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| :'''Bug frame becomes stuck and will not retract''';
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| *'''Shutdown;reboot'''
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| :'''activities start on first try'''
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| : Frame retracts correctly
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| ===http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031===
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| :jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active
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| ::https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2892
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| ::https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
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| ===Activities===
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| ;key: *=not a favorite
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| speak 25
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| tamtamjam 56
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| turtle art 27
| |
| tamtamedit 55
| |
| Labyrinth 11
| |
| measure 32
| |
| image viewer 17*
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| browse 122.2
| |
| words 4
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| stopwatch 9
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| write 74
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| paint 34
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| moon 12
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| help 12
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| clock 6
| |
| chat 70
| |
| tamtamsynthlab 55*
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| wikipediaEN 26
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| scratch 19
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| memorize 36
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| ruler 8
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| get books 7
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| distance 22
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| log 24*
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| infoslicer 9
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| record 92
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| wikipedia 26
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| physics 8
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| implode 10
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| jukebox 21*
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| terminal 31
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| abacus 19
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| pippy 40
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| maze 9
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| tamtammini 58
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| calculate 37
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| etoys 113
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| helloworld 2*
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| finance 3
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| fototoon 7
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| read 89*
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| turtle art 107
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| '''irc-10.xo''' (downloaded)
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| ==testing os871 on G1G1 XO-1==
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| *:07/01/2011 reflashed with USB
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| ===Retest:07/05/2011 reflashed with USB===
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| ====Testing without jabber connection====
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| ::CP/network line blank
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| *Browse starts on first try,,,
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| :Confirm that activities start on first try.
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| ====Jabber Bugs====
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| Incomplete display of jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood
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| https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
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| Several Activities fail to launch in crowded jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood
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| https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2892
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| jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active
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| http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031 (closed ericos see> 2892; 2897)
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| ===About my Computer===
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| Build 871
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| sugar 0.92.2
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| firmware q2e45
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| wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23
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| *note very slow response
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| *'''Activities only start on second try''' (get "failed to start" on first try)
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| : (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
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| : it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
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| ===Testing===
| | This is a significant problem. Sugar will be more successful if Linux users can easily find it by a simple keyword search in the default installer. A user should not have to install a new installation app in order to find Sugar. I suggest that the team create an "application" that (i) meets Fedora's criteria for applications and (ii) automatically executes a script that downloads and installs the necessary components of Sugar. Better yet, the Sugar Learning Platform Package App could even give a user a set of choices of available components and/or activity packages to add to the script. |
| *Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
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| *>Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
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| :connects fine(on second try) to #sugar and #sugar-es(Default)
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| *>Connected to Jabber.sugarlabs.org
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| :only see shared activities NO Avitars
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| ::This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
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| http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845
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| http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897 | |
| :::This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
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| ===Activities===
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| no updates found | |
| :Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
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| ;key: *=not a favorite
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| speak 25
| |
| tamtamjam 56
| |
| tamtamedit 55
| |
| measure 32
| |
| image viewer 17*
| |
| browse 122.2
| |
| write 74 | |
| paint 34
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| moon 12
| |
| help 12
| |
| clock 6
| |
| chat 70
| |
| tamtamsynthlab 55*
| |
| scratch 19
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| memorize 36
| |
| ruler 8
| |
| jukebox 21*
| |
| distance 22
| |
| record 92
| |
| implode 10
| |
| terminal 31*
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| abacus 19
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| pippy 40
| |
| maze 9
| |
| tamtammini 58
| |
| calculate 37
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| etoys 113
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| helloworld 2*
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| log 24*
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| fototoon 7
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| read 89*
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| turtle art 107
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| '''irc-10.xo''' (downloaded)
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