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llaske_ (@freenode_llaske_:matrix.org) joined the room. | llaske_ (@freenode_llaske_:matrix.org) joined the room. | ||
llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Is there a channel for the SLOB meeting? | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Is there a channel for the SLOB meeting? | ||
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walterbender: here<br/>but no one seems to have come to the meeting<br/>(except you)<br/>I even remembered to send a reminder | walterbender: here<br/>but no one seems to have come to the meeting<br/>(except you)<br/>I even remembered to send a reminder | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I've got a message telling that I've not right to do audio in the channel<br/>Yes I've seen your reminder | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I've got a message telling that I've not right to do audio in the channel<br/>Yes I've seen your reminder | ||
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callaurrea: Hi everyone | callaurrea: Hi everyone | ||
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walterbender: Hi callaurrea<br/>glad you made it | walterbender: Hi callaurrea<br/>glad you made it | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi | ||
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callaurrea: Thanks for the reminder | callaurrea: Thanks for the reminder | ||
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walterbender: I suppose we could try using the video call mechanism, but lets see if anyone else shows up.<br/>Meanwhile, I can report on a few things that don't need much discussion/debate. | walterbender: I suppose we could try using the video call mechanism, but lets see if anyone else shows up.<br/>Meanwhile, I can report on a few things that don't need much discussion/debate. | ||
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Finances: no transactions yet in 2021. | Finances: no transactions yet in 2021. | ||
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mrbios: hi folks. | mrbios: hi folks. | ||
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walterbender: We have a quorum. Great. | walterbender: We have a quorum. Great. | ||
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mrbios: I have conflicting meetings but am in both :) | mrbios: I have conflicting meetings but am in both :) | ||
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walterbender: Sorry. Maybe at the end we can discuss finding a better time for everyone? | walterbender: Sorry. Maybe at the end we can discuss finding a better time for everyone? | ||
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callaurrea: good idea, walterbender | callaurrea: good idea, walterbender | ||
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walterbender: Anyway, re Finances, a concern was raised about our spending $$ on lawyers. This is all related to the hopefully one-time process of setting up the non-profit org in the US.<br/>It is the only time in our project's history that we have had legal expenses.<br/>I don't know if it could have been done otherwise.<br/>But it is not something we should see repeated. | walterbender: Anyway, re Finances, a concern was raised about our spending $$ on lawyers. This is all related to the hopefully one-time process of setting up the non-profit org in the US.<br/>It is the only time in our project's history that we have had legal expenses.<br/>I don't know if it could have been done otherwise.<br/>But it is not something we should see repeated. | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Make sense and this work is documented from month. | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Make sense and this work is documented from month. | ||
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walterbender: all in all, we have spent about US $500 per year on average for legal over the lifetime of the org... pretty reasonable | walterbender: all in all, we have spent about US $500 per year on average for legal over the lifetime of the org... pretty reasonable | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I don't think there is a real concern | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I don't think there is a real concern | ||
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walterbender: certainly nothing "corrupt" about it<br/>any other finance questions/concerns? | walterbender: certainly nothing "corrupt" about it<br/>any other finance questions/concerns? | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Nope. I was very surprised by the Martin message. | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Nope. I was very surprised by the Martin message. | ||
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walterbender: (The sum total of expenses for which I cannot find receipts is $20.) | walterbender: (The sum total of expenses for which I cannot find receipts is $20.) | ||
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callaurrea: I don't think we could have done the work well without the expenses | callaurrea: I don't think we could have done the work well without the expenses | ||
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walterbender: Again, not seemingly a major concern.<br/>Re the ombudsman, nothing to report, although I wish, if Martin had concerns, he would have approached Pattie before sending his very public admonishment.<br/>Maybe we need to better publicize the fact that we have an ombudsperson? | walterbender: Again, not seemingly a major concern.<br/>Re the ombudsman, nothing to report, although I wish, if Martin had concerns, he would have approached Pattie before sending his very public admonishment.<br/>Maybe we need to better publicize the fact that we have an ombudsperson? | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): May be we could answer Martin publicly about this | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): May be we could answer Martin publicly about this | ||
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walterbender: I will try to come up with some language to include in our code of conduct document. | walterbender: I will try to come up with some language to include in our code of conduct document. | ||
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perrieee joined the room. | perrieee joined the room. | ||
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walterbender: Alex has been speaking with him (and both Alex and I wrote to him off list). | walterbender: Alex has been speaking with him (and both Alex and I wrote to him off list). | ||
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perrieee: Hi everyone | perrieee: Hi everyone | ||
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walterbender: hi perrieee | walterbender: hi perrieee | ||
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perrieee: sorry I am late | perrieee: sorry I am late | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi Perrie | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi Perrie | ||
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walterbender: perrieee: can you see the backlog? | walterbender: perrieee: can you see the backlog? | ||
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perrieee: yes I can | perrieee: yes I can | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: anything to report from SFC? | walterbender: callaurrea: anything to report from SFC? | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): BTW another subject for our agenda: GSoC. Our application has been completed by Perrie (thanks). It's on the way. Result is expected March 9th | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): BTW another subject for our agenda: GSoC. Our application has been completed by Perrie (thanks). It's on the way. Result is expected March 9th | ||
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walterbender: Yes... I was going to say a public thank you to Perrie, Lionel and Jui | walterbender: Yes... I was going to say a public thank you to Perrie, Lionel and Jui | ||
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callaurrea: Nothing. Other than my communication with them about the W-9 form, which happened in January<br/>No communication<br/>Thanks you, Perrie Lionel and Jui<br/>can you share the info? it would be good to include important highlights from the application into the minutes | callaurrea: Nothing. Other than my communication with them about the W-9 form, which happened in January<br/>No communication<br/>Thanks you, Perrie Lionel and Jui<br/>can you share the info? it would be good to include important highlights from the application into the minutes | ||
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walterbender: Perrie, maybe you could include the text of the application somewhere is the GSoC repo? So we don't have to hunt down all those numbers again next year.<br/>maybe as a wiki page? | walterbender: Perrie, maybe you could include the text of the application somewhere is the GSoC repo? So we don't have to hunt down all those numbers again next year.<br/>maybe as a wiki page? | ||
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perrieee: sure .. I can put that together and share tomorrow | perrieee: sure .. I can put that together and share tomorrow | ||
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walterbender: thx<br/>https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/wiki | walterbender: thx<br/>https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/wiki | ||
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perrieee: but this is what our profile correctly looks like | perrieee: but this is what our profile correctly looks like | ||
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walterbender: Meanwhile, we can continue to add project ideas...<br/>Does anyone know much about the Google Summer of Doc program?<br/>Deadlines, etc? | walterbender: Meanwhile, we can continue to add project ideas...<br/>Does anyone know much about the Google Summer of Doc program?<br/>Deadlines, etc? | ||
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sum2it joined the room. | sum2it joined the room. | ||
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walterbender: We've been discussing it in a thread somewhere | walterbender: We've been discussing it in a thread somewhere | ||
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perrieee: for ideas, I want to bring up the project for a redesign of our website again: https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/pull/91#issuecomment-776364048<br/>now the time frame has been shortened | perrieee: for ideas, I want to bring up the project for a redesign of our website again: https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/pull/91#issuecomment-776364048<br/>now the time frame has been shortened | ||
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walterbender: I think we should apply and focus on materials to support teachers to take advantage of our tools.<br/>callaurrea: you'd be a great mentor for that theme | walterbender: I think we should apply and focus on materials to support teachers to take advantage of our tools.<br/>callaurrea: you'd be a great mentor for that theme | ||
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callaurrea: Love to | callaurrea: Love to | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Clearly teachers material will be great. It's often asked for Sugarizer on the field | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Clearly teachers material will be great. It's often asked for Sugarizer on the field | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): But I don't know if it could be a proposal for GSoD. Which people could really write this sort of doc ? | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): But I don't know if it could be a proposal for GSoD. Which people could really write this sort of doc ? | ||
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walterbender: perrieee: (I will share the log and minutes)<br/>llaske_: if we find someone who can write well, we can help shape the content | walterbender: perrieee: (I will share the log and minutes)<br/>llaske_: if we find someone who can write well, we can help shape the content | ||
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callaurrea: Speaking about OLCP. Mariana may have ideas for other topics? should we reach out to her to establish connections? | callaurrea: Speaking about OLCP. Mariana may have ideas for other topics? should we reach out to her to establish connections? | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I have been chatting with her on FB<br/>A friend of ours just became the new president of OLPC | walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I have been chatting with her on FB<br/>A friend of ours just became the new president of OLPC | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Oh really ? who is it? | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Oh really ? who is it? | ||
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walterbender: Mariana<br/>She is interested in deepening the ties to Sugar Labs | walterbender: Mariana<br/>She is interested in deepening the ties to Sugar Labs | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Cool | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Cool | ||
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callaurrea: we can invite her to present at one of our meetings... vision, where they are, etc.? | callaurrea: we can invite her to present at one of our meetings... vision, where they are, etc.? | ||
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walterbender: Mariana Ludmila Cortés -- I am not sure of her OLPC email<br/>callaurrea: great idea<br/>I will see if she can join us in two weeks. | walterbender: Mariana Ludmila Cortés -- I am not sure of her OLPC email<br/>callaurrea: great idea<br/>I will see if she can join us in two weeks. | ||
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sum2it: Hi all, just joined and read the backlog. | sum2it: Hi all, just joined and read the backlog. | ||
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walterbender: I just asked her if she can join us for a discussion in 2 weeks :P<br/>hi sum2it<br/>any other discussion topics?<br/>I gave a talk to a bunch of teachers in Brazil last week and am following up with a workshop this Friday. | walterbender: I just asked her if she can join us for a discussion in 2 weeks :P<br/>hi sum2it<br/>any other discussion topics?<br/>I gave a talk to a bunch of teachers in Brazil last week and am following up with a workshop this Friday. | ||
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callaurrea: missed that | callaurrea: missed that | ||
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walterbender: Arranged through USP<br/>any other discussion topics? | walterbender: Arranged through USP<br/>any other discussion topics? | ||
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perrieee: yes ... what is the plan for the website refresh? | perrieee: yes ... what is the plan for the website refresh? | ||
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callaurrea: can we add the link to your sat workshop to the minutes? | callaurrea: can we add the link to your sat workshop to the minutes? | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I will add it | walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I will add it | ||
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perrieee: I was personally thinking this GSoc will be a good time | perrieee: I was personally thinking this GSoc will be a good time | ||
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callaurrea: we said we will begin with some of those activities... for our packages | callaurrea: we said we will begin with some of those activities... for our packages | ||
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walterbender: perrieee: I think it is a reasonable scope for a scaled back GSoC but we do need to have a concrete proposal as to how the new website is tangibly better -- both in terms of the visitor experience and maintenance overhead | walterbender: perrieee: I think it is a reasonable scope for a scaled back GSoC but we do need to have a concrete proposal as to how the new website is tangibly better -- both in terms of the visitor experience and maintenance overhead | ||
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perrieee: There is already a design drafted set ... I can share that again | perrieee: There is already a design drafted set ... I can share that again | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I think we should do a light update of our website just to mention that SugarLabs is now Sugar, MusicBlocks and Sugarizer. But it could be done outside of GSoC in my opinion | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I think we should do a light update of our website just to mention that SugarLabs is now Sugar, MusicBlocks and Sugarizer. But it could be done outside of GSoC in my opinion | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: hopefully my Friday workshop can be a rehearsal for the (bi-?) monthly Sugar Labs workshops | walterbender: callaurrea: hopefully my Friday workshop can be a rehearsal for the (bi-?) monthly Sugar Labs workshops | ||
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srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): (I am not a part of SLOBS), but our website update mechanism has been broken since 2020 January | srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): (I am not a part of SLOBS), but our website update mechanism has been broken since 2020 January | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): srevinsaju: sounds like a priority to fix it first | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): srevinsaju: sounds like a priority to fix it first | ||
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perrieee: https://www.figma.com/proto/iVvHw3nrOCjBi3FfCOM4PC/Sugar-refresh?node-id=924%3A1&scaling=min-zoom | perrieee: https://www.figma.com/proto/iVvHw3nrOCjBi3FfCOM4PC/Sugar-refresh?node-id=924%3A1&scaling=min-zoom | ||
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srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): some changes like the Flathub by tchx84 and others are missing, | srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): some changes like the Flathub by tchx84 and others are missing, | ||
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perrieee: this is a draft, texts will change ... but yeah | perrieee: this is a draft, texts will change ... but yeah | ||
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walterbender: my USP workshop happens to be Friday... that is all<br/>the Sugar Labs ones can be whenever you think best<br/>perrieee: I will take a look... it sounds like no matter what we need to make some updates so it is good that you have put thought into it<br/>* walterbender would like a section on background reading too<br/>* walterbender is writing a book chapter right now on Music Blocks he could share | walterbender: my USP workshop happens to be Friday... that is all<br/>the Sugar Labs ones can be whenever you think best<br/>perrieee: I will take a look... it sounds like no matter what we need to make some updates so it is good that you have put thought into it<br/>* walterbender would like a section on background reading too<br/>* walterbender is writing a book chapter right now on Music Blocks he could share | ||
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perrieee: do you mean something like a story behind SL | perrieee: do you mean something like a story behind SL | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: https://zoom.us/j/98734210784?pwd=b0xHenJuQVpKY3VBd3Y2NFJHRnlDQT09<br/>Password: 422968 (at 2:30 US East Coast -- 19:30 UTC) | walterbender: callaurrea: https://zoom.us/j/98734210784?pwd=b0xHenJuQVpKY3VBd3Y2NFJHRnlDQT09<br/>Password: 422968 (at 2:30 US East Coast -- 19:30 UTC) | ||
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sum2it: Will it be a part of a larger book? | sum2it: Will it be a part of a larger book? | ||
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walterbender: perrieee: I mean simply a list of papers about Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, etc. for someone interested in some of the pedagogy | walterbender: perrieee: I mean simply a list of papers about Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, etc. for someone interested in some of the pedagogy | ||
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callaurrea: Sat at 2:30 pm? | callaurrea: Sat at 2:30 pm? | ||
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perrieee: oh oh coool yeah sure | perrieee: oh oh coool yeah sure | ||
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walterbender: sum2it: a friend is putting together a collection of essays in celebration of the 50th anniversary of Seymour and Cynthia's 20 things to do with a computer paper.<br/>I am writing about thing #11 -- music<br/>callaurrea: Friday :smile:<br/>* walterbender does not know how to use meojis<br/>or type emoji | walterbender: sum2it: a friend is putting together a collection of essays in celebration of the 50th anniversary of Seymour and Cynthia's 20 things to do with a computer paper.<br/>I am writing about thing #11 -- music<br/>callaurrea: Friday :smile:<br/>* walterbender does not know how to use meojis<br/>or type emoji | ||
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sum2it: walterbender Happy to help with drafts and/or editing, anytime. | sum2it: walterbender Happy to help with drafts and/or editing, anytime. | ||
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walterbender: https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/5836 | walterbender: https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/5836 | ||
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walterbender | walterbender | ||
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callaurrea: we have one paper | callaurrea: we have one paper | ||
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walterbender: callaurrea: we have the Turtle Blocks one you, Cynthia and I wrote :P | walterbender: callaurrea: we have the Turtle Blocks one you, Cynthia and I wrote :P | ||
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callaurrea: yes!! | callaurrea: yes!! | ||
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walterbender: sum2it: if you wanna read/comment on my draft, you are more than welcome. | walterbender: sum2it: if you wanna read/comment on my draft, you are more than welcome. | ||
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sum2it: Will do. | sum2it: Will do. | ||
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walterbender: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qTGRsQfOmLvR5V2Y_iD9y58MRqK9MHXTS7HFh6a-wGw/edit?usp=sharing | walterbender: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qTGRsQfOmLvR5V2Y_iD9y58MRqK9MHXTS7HFh6a-wGw/edit?usp=sharing | ||
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sum2it: Thanks. | sum2it: Thanks. | ||
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walterbender: Any other business?<br/>I want to be respectful of the time | walterbender: Any other business?<br/>I want to be respectful of the time | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): That's all on my side | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): That's all on my side | ||
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walterbender: Did someone volunteer to follow up on Google Summer of Documentation? | walterbender: Did someone volunteer to follow up on Google Summer of Documentation? | ||
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perrieee: I can do a follow up | perrieee: I can do a follow up | ||
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walterbender: thx | walterbender: thx | ||
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perrieee: Samson and I :) | perrieee: Samson and I :) | ||
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walterbender: What did everyone think of using Matrix? | walterbender: What did everyone think of using Matrix? | ||
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callaurrea: I am ok with it | callaurrea: I am ok with it | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): It's like an IRC++ | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): It's like an IRC++ | ||
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perrieee: I like the experience ... | perrieee: I like the experience ... | ||
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sum2it: This is good | sum2it: This is good | ||
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walterbender: I feel like it is a bit more inclusive than our video calls (and easier for the person writing up the minutes -- he says selfishly)<br/>So, lets use it again next time? I will let you know if Mariana can join us. | walterbender: I feel like it is a bit more inclusive than our video calls (and easier for the person writing up the minutes -- he says selfishly)<br/>So, lets use it again next time? I will let you know if Mariana can join us. | ||
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callaurrea: agree | callaurrea: agree | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): okay | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): okay | ||
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perrieee: agree | perrieee: agree | ||
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sum2it: +1 | sum2it: +1 | ||
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walterbender: OK. Until next time, feel free to ping me here<br/>thanks everyone | walterbender: OK. Until next time, feel free to ping me here<br/>thanks everyone | ||
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sum2it: Bye | sum2it: Bye | ||
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llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Thanks all. Bye | llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Thanks all. Bye | ||
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sum2it: Thanks all | sum2it: Thanks all | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:21, 23 February 2021
SLOB Meeting -- February 17, 2021
Attending: Walter, Claudia, Lionel, Perrie, MrBios
From the community: Sum2it, srevinsaju
Topics
Finances
No transactions as of yet in 2021
Ombudsman
Nothing to report, although Walter will write some text to make it more obvious in our Code of Conduct that we have an ombudsman.
SFC
Claudia reported no new correspondence
GSoC
Perrie submitted the application to great acclaim
GSoD
We discussed using Summer of Documentation to prepare materials in support of teachers.
Perrie and Samson will lay the groundwork for our application
Workshops
Walter will be giving a workshop to teachers in Brazil on the 19th which could serve as a model for future Sugar Labs workshops.
Web Site
We discussed the need for some updates, including more focus on Flatpack, Sugarizer, etc. And a section on more academic papers in support of our activities. Perrie has a design proposal.
Matrix
There was consensus that Matrix worked well and we will try it again at the next meeting.
Next Meeting
3 March 2021
We have invited the new president of OLPC, Mariana Ludmila Cortés to join us in a discussion.
Log
walterbender: hello every...<br/>any SLOB members here?<br/>hmm. holding a meeting in Matrix seems to be a fail :P llaske_ (@freenode_llaske_:matrix.org) joined the room. llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Is there a channel for the SLOB meeting? walterbender: here<br/>but no one seems to have come to the meeting<br/>(except you)<br/>I even remembered to send a reminder llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I've got a message telling that I've not right to do audio in the channel<br/>Yes I've seen your reminder callaurrea: Hi everyone walterbender: Hi callaurrea<br/>glad you made it llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi callaurrea: Thanks for the reminder walterbender: I suppose we could try using the video call mechanism, but lets see if anyone else shows up.<br/>Meanwhile, I can report on a few things that don't need much discussion/debate. Finances: no transactions yet in 2021. mrbios: hi folks. walterbender: We have a quorum. Great. mrbios: I have conflicting meetings but am in both :) walterbender: Sorry. Maybe at the end we can discuss finding a better time for everyone? callaurrea: good idea, walterbender walterbender: Anyway, re Finances, a concern was raised about our spending $$ on lawyers. This is all related to the hopefully one-time process of setting up the non-profit org in the US.<br/>It is the only time in our project's history that we have had legal expenses.<br/>I don't know if it could have been done otherwise.<br/>But it is not something we should see repeated. llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Make sense and this work is documented from month. walterbender: all in all, we have spent about US $500 per year on average for legal over the lifetime of the org... pretty reasonable llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I don't think there is a real concern walterbender: certainly nothing "corrupt" about it<br/>any other finance questions/concerns? llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Nope. I was very surprised by the Martin message. walterbender: (The sum total of expenses for which I cannot find receipts is $20.) callaurrea: I don't think we could have done the work well without the expenses walterbender: Again, not seemingly a major concern.<br/>Re the ombudsman, nothing to report, although I wish, if Martin had concerns, he would have approached Pattie before sending his very public admonishment.<br/>Maybe we need to better publicize the fact that we have an ombudsperson? llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): May be we could answer Martin publicly about this walterbender: I will try to come up with some language to include in our code of conduct document. perrieee joined the room. walterbender: Alex has been speaking with him (and both Alex and I wrote to him off list). perrieee: Hi everyone walterbender: hi perrieee perrieee: sorry I am late llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Hi Perrie walterbender: perrieee: can you see the backlog? perrieee: yes I can walterbender: callaurrea: anything to report from SFC? llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): BTW another subject for our agenda: GSoC. Our application has been completed by Perrie (thanks). It's on the way. Result is expected March 9th walterbender: Yes... I was going to say a public thank you to Perrie, Lionel and Jui callaurrea: Nothing. Other than my communication with them about the W-9 form, which happened in January<br/>No communication<br/>Thanks you, Perrie Lionel and Jui<br/>can you share the info? it would be good to include important highlights from the application into the minutes walterbender: Perrie, maybe you could include the text of the application somewhere is the GSoC repo? So we don't have to hunt down all those numbers again next year.<br/>maybe as a wiki page? perrieee: sure .. I can put that together and share tomorrow walterbender: thx<br/>https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/wiki perrieee: but this is what our profile correctly looks like walterbender: Meanwhile, we can continue to add project ideas...<br/>Does anyone know much about the Google Summer of Doc program?<br/>Deadlines, etc? sum2it joined the room. walterbender: We've been discussing it in a thread somewhere perrieee: for ideas, I want to bring up the project for a redesign of our website again: https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/pull/91#issuecomment-776364048<br/>now the time frame has been shortened walterbender: I think we should apply and focus on materials to support teachers to take advantage of our tools.<br/>callaurrea: you'd be a great mentor for that theme callaurrea: Love to llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Clearly teachers material will be great. It's often asked for Sugarizer on the field llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): But I don't know if it could be a proposal for GSoD. Which people could really write this sort of doc ? walterbender: perrieee: (I will share the log and minutes)<br/>llaske_: if we find someone who can write well, we can help shape the content callaurrea: Speaking about OLCP. Mariana may have ideas for other topics? should we reach out to her to establish connections? walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I have been chatting with her on FB<br/>A friend of ours just became the new president of OLPC llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Oh really ? who is it? walterbender: Mariana<br/>She is interested in deepening the ties to Sugar Labs llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Cool callaurrea: we can invite her to present at one of our meetings... vision, where they are, etc.? walterbender: Mariana Ludmila Cortés -- I am not sure of her OLPC email<br/>callaurrea: great idea<br/>I will see if she can join us in two weeks. sum2it: Hi all, just joined and read the backlog. walterbender: I just asked her if she can join us for a discussion in 2 weeks :P<br/>hi sum2it<br/>any other discussion topics?<br/>I gave a talk to a bunch of teachers in Brazil last week and am following up with a workshop this Friday. callaurrea: missed that walterbender: Arranged through USP<br/>any other discussion topics? perrieee: yes ... what is the plan for the website refresh? callaurrea: can we add the link to your sat workshop to the minutes? walterbender: callaurrea: yes... I will add it perrieee: I was personally thinking this GSoc will be a good time callaurrea: we said we will begin with some of those activities... for our packages walterbender: perrieee: I think it is a reasonable scope for a scaled back GSoC but we do need to have a concrete proposal as to how the new website is tangibly better -- both in terms of the visitor experience and maintenance overhead perrieee: There is already a design drafted set ... I can share that again llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): I think we should do a light update of our website just to mention that SugarLabs is now Sugar, MusicBlocks and Sugarizer. But it could be done outside of GSoC in my opinion walterbender: callaurrea: hopefully my Friday workshop can be a rehearsal for the (bi-?) monthly Sugar Labs workshops srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): (I am not a part of SLOBS), but our website update mechanism has been broken since 2020 January llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): srevinsaju: sounds like a priority to fix it first perrieee: https://www.figma.com/proto/iVvHw3nrOCjBi3FfCOM4PC/Sugar-refresh?node-id=924%3A1&scaling=min-zoom srevinsaju (@srevinsaju:matrix.org): some changes like the Flathub by tchx84 and others are missing, callaurrea: Is it Fridays perrieee: this is a draft, texts will change ... but yeah walterbender: my USP workshop happens to be Friday... that is all<br/>the Sugar Labs ones can be whenever you think best<br/>perrieee: I will take a look... it sounds like no matter what we need to make some updates so it is good that you have put thought into it<br/>* walterbender would like a section on background reading too<br/>* walterbender is writing a book chapter right now on Music Blocks he could share perrieee: do you mean something like a story behind SL walterbender: callaurrea: https://zoom.us/j/98734210784?pwd=b0xHenJuQVpKY3VBd3Y2NFJHRnlDQT09<br/>Password: 422968 (at 2:30 US East Coast -- 19:30 UTC) sum2it: Will it be a part of a larger book? walterbender: perrieee: I mean simply a list of papers about Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, etc. for someone interested in some of the pedagogy callaurrea: Sat at 2:30 pm? perrieee: oh oh coool yeah sure walterbender: sum2it: a friend is putting together a collection of essays in celebration of the 50th anniversary of Seymour and Cynthia's 20 things to do with a computer paper.<br/>I am writing about thing #11 -- music<br/>callaurrea: Friday :smile:<br/>* walterbender does not know how to use meojis<br/>or type emoji sum2it: walterbender Happy to help with drafts and/or editing, anytime. walterbender: https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/5836 walterbender callaurrea: we have one paper walterbender: callaurrea: we have the Turtle Blocks one you, Cynthia and I wrote :P callaurrea: yes!! walterbender: sum2it: if you wanna read/comment on my draft, you are more than welcome. sum2it: Will do. walterbender: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qTGRsQfOmLvR5V2Y_iD9y58MRqK9MHXTS7HFh6a-wGw/edit?usp=sharing sum2it: Thanks. walterbender: Any other business?<br/>I want to be respectful of the time llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): That's all on my side walterbender: Did someone volunteer to follow up on Google Summer of Documentation? perrieee: I can do a follow up walterbender: thx perrieee: Samson and I :) walterbender: What did everyone think of using Matrix? callaurrea: I am ok with it llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): It's like an IRC++ perrieee: I like the experience ... sum2it: This is good walterbender: I feel like it is a bit more inclusive than our video calls (and easier for the person writing up the minutes -- he says selfishly)<br/>So, lets use it again next time? I will let you know if Mariana can join us. callaurrea: agree llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): okay perrieee: agree sum2it: +1 walterbender: OK. Until next time, feel free to ping me here<br/>thanks everyone sum2it: Bye llaske_ (@llaske_:matrix.org): Thanks all. Bye sum2it: Thanks all perrieee: bye, thanks all'''