Oversight Board/2009/Meeting Log-2009-09-25: Difference between revisions
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:'''<walterbender>''' ok, then let's get started. | :'''<walterbender>''' ok, then let's get started. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' #start-meeting | :'''<walterbender>''' #start-meeting | ||
* sdziallas looks around and waves | |||
:'''<cjb>''' (It's 6am local time for me; if we could get the vote out of the way first that'd be helpful, since I might have trouble staying awake. ;-) | :'''<cjb>''' (It's 6am local time for me; if we could get the vote out of the way first that'd be helpful, since I might have trouble staying awake. ;-) | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb, do you have a list of volunteers? | :'''<walterbender>''' cjb, do you have a list of volunteers? | ||
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:'''<walterbender>''' so any final comments before we vote on the members of the decision panel? | :'''<walterbender>''' so any final comments before we vote on the members of the decision panel? | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor? | :'''<walterbender>''' all in favor? | ||
* walterbender is in favor | |||
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:dfarning:^ | :'''<cjb>''' tomeu:dfarning:^ | ||
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain | :'''<dfarning>''' abstain | ||
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:'''<tomeu>''' what sdziallas thinks about it? | :'''<tomeu>''' what sdziallas thinks about it? | ||
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:if there's one question that you want to make sure gets answered, maybe we should get it in here | :'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:if there's one question that you want to make sure gets answered, maybe we should get it in here | ||
* sdziallas looks up. more being specific than cjb said? well, there have been three questions being but up on the wiki page, if I recall correctly. | |||
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' FYI Abhishek Indoria also volunteered for the DP, for what it's worth his name was missed above. | :'''<CanoeBerry>''' FYI Abhishek Indoria also volunteered for the DP, for what it's worth his name was missed above. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' sdziallas:and more questions were raised in the discussion | :'''<walterbender>''' sdziallas:and more questions were raised in the discussion | ||
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:'''<sdziallas>''' walterbender:I think "SL strategic plan" for it - if that's what its called - should be a topic for the maintainer, too. since this actually affects his decisions. | :'''<sdziallas>''' walterbender:I think "SL strategic plan" for it - if that's what its called - should be a topic for the maintainer, too. since this actually affects his decisions. | ||
:'''<cjb>''' so a proposed mandate based on that question could be "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, including an answer to the question of 'Should "Sugar on a Stick" be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?" | :'''<cjb>''' so a proposed mandate based on that question could be "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, including an answer to the question of 'Should "Sugar on a Stick" be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?" | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:maybe a different word than avoid? because one potential solution could be to qualify it rather than avoid it | :'''<walterbender>''' cjb:maybe a different word than avoid? because one potential solution could be to qualify it rather than avoid it | ||
:'''<lfaraone>''' cjb:oh, and Sean just volunteered. | :'''<lfaraone>''' cjb:oh, and Sean just volunteered. | ||
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:'''<cjb>''' got it. | :'''<cjb>''' got it. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:so we have an obligation to protect the mark... | :'''<walterbender>''' cjb:so we have an obligation to protect the mark... | ||
* mtd sees the use of "Sugar on a Stick" squarely in scope, since...well, becqause of what walterbender just said. | |||
:'''<walterbender>''' the DP should be aware of all of this... Karen at SFLA can help clarify | :'''<walterbender>''' the DP should be aware of all of this... Karen at SFLA can help clarify | ||
:'''<cjb>''' ok. I don't think this needs to go in the mandate, but I agree that we should let them know. | :'''<cjb>''' ok. I don't think this needs to go in the mandate, but I agree that we should let them know. | ||
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:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:OK, but if they recommend something that is contradictory to the law, we'll have to reject their proposal. | :'''<walterbender>''' cjb:OK, but if they recommend something that is contradictory to the law, we'll have to reject their proposal. | ||
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:so perhaps we should vote on whether the other questions on that page should make it in | :'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:so perhaps we should vote on whether the other questions on that page should make it in | ||
:'''<mtd>''' cjb:perhaps noting that they are not not in scope would be enough? :) | :'''<mtd>''' cjb:perhaps noting that they are not not in scope would be enough? :) | ||
:'''<sdziallas_>''' sorry folks, I just got disconnected :/ | :'''<sdziallas_>''' sorry folks, I just got disconnected :/ | ||
:'''<cjb>''' mtd:it's enough for me, but I think sdziallas_ would like them to be a MUST instead of a MAY | :'''<cjb>''' mtd:it's enough for me, but I think sdziallas_ would like them to be a MUST instead of a MAY | ||
:'''<tomeu>''' sdziallas:I will paste the logs | :'''<tomeu>''' sdziallas:I will paste the logs | ||
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:'''<cjb>''' yeah | :'''<cjb>''' yeah | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:we could decide to throw out their work and try again :P | :'''<walterbender>''' cjb:we could decide to throw out their work and try again :P | ||
:'''<cjb>''' okay, so I think we're getting somewhere. | :'''<cjb>''' okay, so I think we're getting somewhere. | ||
:'''<cjb>''' Here's another shot at the mandate: | :'''<cjb>''' Here's another shot at the mandate: | ||
:'''<cjb>''' "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following: | :'''<cjb>''' "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following: | ||
:'''<cjb>''' * | :'''<cjb>''' * | ||
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:'''<cjb>''' yes | :'''<cjb>''' yes | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor? | :'''<walterbender>''' all in favor? | ||
* walterbender yes | |||
* cjb yes | |||
:'''<walterbender>''' all opposed? | :'''<walterbender>''' all opposed? | ||
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:^ | :'''<cjb>''' tomeu:^ | ||
* tomeu is in favor | |||
:'''<walterbender>''' all abstain? | :'''<walterbender>''' all abstain? | ||
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain | :'''<dfarning>''' abstain | ||
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:'''<walterbender>''' and 3 absent :( | :'''<walterbender>''' and 3 absent :( | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' whew. got that done... back to coding :) | :'''<walterbender>''' whew. got that done... back to coding :) | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' actually, there are a few other topics. | :'''<walterbender>''' actually, there are a few other topics. | ||
:'''<tomeu>''' the elections will fix the absents ;) | :'''<tomeu>''' the elections will fix the absents ;) | ||
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:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:yes, but ASAP | :'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:yes, but ASAP | ||
:'''<tomeu>''' heh | :'''<tomeu>''' heh | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:I had one, but there wasn't a link from the candidates page--just added the link | :'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:I had one, but there wasn't a link from the candidates page--just added the link | ||
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok will do that later today | :'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok will do that later today | ||
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:'''<bemasc>''' oh well, I guess I'm too late. | :'''<bemasc>''' oh well, I guess I'm too late. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:I wish you had chimed in earlier | :'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:I wish you had chimed in earlier | ||
* sdziallas has to run, thanks everybody. | |||
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:maybe you can send a note to slobs and the panel explaining why | :'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:maybe you can send a note to slobs and the panel explaining why | ||
:'''<sdziallas>''' bemasc:oh? heh. | :'''<sdziallas>''' bemasc:oh? heh. | ||
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:'''<walterbender>''' Caroline and I submitted a grant to the Wal-Mart foundation--out reach to Massachusetts teachers | :'''<walterbender>''' Caroline and I submitted a grant to the Wal-Mart foundation--out reach to Massachusetts teachers | ||
:'''<caroline>''' the calendar is mostly empty for me | :'''<caroline>''' the calendar is mostly empty for me | ||
* sdziallas is out now, talk to you all later :) | |||
:'''<caroline>''' One of our interns submitted a grant to the "Do Something" contest. | :'''<caroline>''' One of our interns submitted a grant to the "Do Something" contest. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' I am working on a grant to the NSF that is due in two weeks re Sugar and creativity | :'''<walterbender>''' I am working on a grant to the NSF that is due in two weeks re Sugar and creativity | ||
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:'''<tomeu>''' nice, let's see how it goes | :'''<tomeu>''' nice, let's see how it goes | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' also, I am working with a group of Babson students who are preparing some marketing material for us... Sean, I'd like to introduce them to you. | :'''<walterbender>''' also, I am working with a group of Babson students who are preparing some marketing material for us... Sean, I'd like to introduce them to you. | ||
* walterbender bemoans the fact that there is so little time to code | |||
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:We have 14 candidates. Ballot will be sent out by dfarning on 2009-10-01 via Selectricity to all members with an email on file. | :'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:We have 14 candidates. Ballot will be sent out by dfarning on 2009-10-01 via Selectricity to all members with an email on file. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' Bernie will be teaching my seminar with me next week. my students want to learn Python | :'''<walterbender>''' Bernie will be teaching my seminar with me next week. my students want to learn Python | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:why wait until 10/1? | :'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:why wait until 10/1? | ||
* tomeu needs to go out, will read backlog later | |||
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:Because it allows for any last minute changes. We announced the election date two days ago, it seemed useful to give notice. | :'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:Because it allows for any last minute changes. We announced the election date two days ago, it seemed useful to give notice. | ||
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok for Babson and ChristianV has found us a professor to speak with in Paris | :'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok for Babson and ChristianV has found us a professor to speak with in Paris | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:OK. | :'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:OK. | ||
* walterbender has to run in a minute too | |||
:'''<walterbender>''' can we end the meeting now and continue with discussion over coffee? | :'''<walterbender>''' can we end the meeting now and continue with discussion over coffee? | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' thanks for participating everyone. | :'''<walterbender>''' thanks for participating everyone. | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' my apologies to bemasc for not sending the reminder | :'''<walterbender>''' my apologies to bemasc for not sending the reminder | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' hi befana | :'''<walterbender>''' hi befana | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' we are just finishing up | :'''<walterbender>''' we are just finishing up | ||
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:'''<befana>''' walterbender:hi | :'''<befana>''' walterbender:hi | ||
:'''<walterbender>''' (I don't think the logger was working, so I will cut and paste) | :'''<walterbender>''' (I don't think the logger was working, so I will cut and paste) | ||