Deployment Team/Meetings/2008-09-24/Log: Difference between revisions

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:'''<walter>''' not critical...

:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important

:'''<walter>''' the first step would be to make a clear distinction between the xo-icon and my-icon in the codebase

:'''<walter>''' not critical...

:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important

:'''<tomeu>''' walter: do you have already an idea of what changes in the journal UI are most urgent?

:'''<tomeu>''' everybody seems to have a different idea each ;)

:'''<walter>''' @tomeu: the most important things in my mind are: robustness; easier access to journal items (e.g., access from the home page); and a better way of managing the data as it grows.

:'''<walter>''' Robustness is really the datastore

:'''<walter>''' I think the discussion about tags is a good way to address the management issues

:'''<walter>''' but I think the bulk of the journal "spam" as Albert likes to call it, comes from the fact that people don't access the Journal more directly--we need to make it an extension of the homepage.

:'''<tomeu>''' yeah, we see some consensus growing on that

:'''<tomeu>''' I think we definitely should get that one for 9.1

:'''<walter>''' I had some UI ideas that Eben/Pentagram never liked about making the journal a direct extension of the Frame

:'''<tomeu>''' 0.84

:'''<tomeu>''' oh, haven't heard about it

:'''<walter>''' Just like the clipboard is always there, relevant journal entries could always be there

:'''<tomeu>''' some kind of "recent documents"?

:'''<walter>''' yeah.

:'''<walter>''' or recent objects, once you are in an activity

:'''<walter>''' Eben I think wanted to do this with a tray instead

:'''<tomeu>''' I'm not sure we'll have much time to do changes in the journal UI for 0.84

:'''<tomeu>''' so we should choose well what gives most for the price

:'''<walter>''' I don't expect that level of change, but I think the datastore ideas from last January could support this model

:'''<tomeu>''' for now, I think the tags stuff is too much for 0.84 unless someone volunteers to help

:'''<walter>''' When we think about what we optimize in terms of access...

:'''<tomeu>''' walter: yup, increasing query performance is one of the main goals of the rewrite

:'''<tomeu>''' we are already much better and can improve significantly

:'''<tomeu>''' more

:'''<walter>''' That's going to make a huge difference... the foundation has to be there first.

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 :'''<walter>''' not critical...
 :'''<walter>''' the journal is most important
+:'''<walter>''' the first step would be to make a clear distinction between the xo-icon and my-icon in the codebase
+:'''<walter>''' not critical...
+:'''<walter>''' the journal is most important
+:'''<tomeu>''' walter: do you have already an idea of what changes in the journal UI are most urgent?
+:'''<tomeu>''' everybody seems to have a different idea each ;)
+:'''<walter>''' @tomeu: the most important things in my mind are: robustness; easier access to journal items (e.g., access from the home page); and a better way of managing the data as it grows.
+:'''<walter>''' Robustness is really the datastore
+:'''<walter>''' I think the discussion about tags is a good way to address the management issues
+:'''<walter>''' but I think the bulk of the journal "spam" as Albert likes to call it, comes from the fact that people don't access the Journal more directly--we need to make it an extension of the homepage.
+:'''<tomeu>''' yeah, we see some consensus growing on that
+:'''<tomeu>''' I think we definitely should get that one for 9.1
+:'''<walter>''' I had some UI ideas that Eben/Pentagram never liked about making the journal a direct extension of the Frame
+:'''<tomeu>''' 0.84
+:'''<tomeu>''' oh, haven't heard about it
+:'''<walter>''' Just like the clipboard is always there, relevant journal entries could always be there
+:'''<tomeu>''' some kind of "recent documents"?
+:'''<walter>''' yeah.
+:'''<walter>''' or recent objects, once you are in an activity
+:'''<walter>''' Eben I think wanted to do this with a tray instead
+:'''<tomeu>''' I'm not sure we'll have much time to do changes in the journal UI for 0.84
+:'''<tomeu>''' so we should choose well what gives most for the price
+:'''<walter>''' I don't expect that level of change, but I think the datastore ideas from last January could support this model
+:'''<tomeu>''' for now, I think the tags stuff is too much for 0.84 unless someone volunteers to help
+:'''<walter>''' When we think about what we optimize in terms of access...
+:'''<tomeu>''' walter: yup, increasing query performance is one of the main goals of the rewrite
+:'''<tomeu>''' we are already much better and can improve significantly
+:'''<tomeu>''' more
+:'''<walter>''' That's going to make a huge difference... the foundation has to be there first.