User talk:Inkyfingers/Getting Started(1)

FLOSS Manuals

Please explain why we link to a separate download for .pdfs when they are available at FLOSS Manuals? --FGrose 10:49, 5 December 2011 (EST) I archived them a while ago when the web page for floss manuals was not working. (Spare local location of .pdf's) satellit_ 9:57, 5 December 2011 (PST) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Floss_Manuals

OK. I suggest we treat it as a spare location rather than the preferred location, because, unless the backup is a mirror automatically tracking FM changes, it is a fragile storage arrangement. Bernie can advise on this.

It might be handy to have a Floss Manuals page in our wiki, which could provided a custom list of links to their .pdfs (along with a footnote about the backup location). For example,

--FGrose 14:49, 5 December 2011 (EST)

I did not know about those (Edit: at the point when this idea started). I included the directory of .pdf to illustrate how to download a file from a known directory. The exercise was quite illuminating for my tester. --Inkyfingers 18:41, 5 December 2011 (EST)

I can see the technical improvement that has been made to Getting_Started/Explore#Configuration. However please could you review User:Inkyfingers/Getting_Started(1), which I have adjusted, bearing in mind that my presentation is almost-a-tutorial and tries to avoid links off-site.

Use of English: almost-a-tutorial, is not in my dictionary. Do you mean insightful walk-through? --Inkyfingers 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)

A tutorial is good, but should be entered by choice, as the style is so different. Perhaps the declarative guidance appears and it is followed by a collapsed tutorial section or a link to a section on a separate page of tutorials. --FGrose 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

My model: Switch on, here is the manual. The sane thing to do is to read the manual. In reading on the reader trusts the editor to provide an insightful walk-through. The product is a children's educational tool. An editor is required to provide appropriate content. --Inkyfingers 04:41, 7 December 2011 (EST)

I have also preferred to avoid hiding links that go off-site. My reasons are to avoid distraction, simplicity, and orientation.

This can be useful in context, however, the standard wiki style includes a large number of hyperlinks for reader-directed, non linear navigation, best determined by the reader, as is common on Wikipedia (described here). Within this context, one learns to follow hyperlinks only for a reason, rather than because they have been presented. Within a tutorial, one presumably submits oneself to the navigation of the author, so links that may distract would be carefully chosen. --FGrose 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

I think it is interesting to share that pre-production I followed How to present Sugar. As my idea developed /Presentation was aimed at parents ( my children), and /Explore at very young new learners, (their children). I then edited out some more "clunky" parts to try to avoid addressing any reader in a pejorative way and out of self-consciousness! I notice I have completely removed any sense that a parent can follow /Presentation in their own time while a child could work through /Explore at their own speed. I am not an Adobe fan but I find a .pdf presentation useful because its stability aids orientation.

In my experience well written copy addressed to an eight year old can be understood by most adults and participating children, and easily speed read by an expert.--Inkyfingers 04:34, 6 December 2011 (EST)

I suggest that this testbed page re-enter the 'Under construction' tag while more design and presentation ideas are explored. --FGrose 15:35, 6 December 2011 (EST)

Drag-Drop

Moved to new wiki page

I like this idea and believe it could be extended. I suggest it is moved to its own page. --Inkyfingers 10:17, 7 December 2011 (EST)

I agree; Could be linked to your text. I was thinking a series of screen shots in between the text (they can be smaller and clicked on to expand) showing the process. satellit_ 7:29 AM 7 Dec 2011 (I have moved the screen-shot into the text)