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== Fedora 30 release ==
 
== Fedora 30 release ==
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One of our target distributions is all set to release with Sugar 0.112 and broken collaboration on the 16th April.
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One of our target distributions is all set to release with Sugar 0.112 and broken collaboration on the 16th April, yet 0.113 contains some fixes for collaboration.
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We discussed;
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* Simon Schampijer (AKA erikos) is listed as the current Fedora Sugar package maintainer,
    
We did not make a decision.
 
We did not make a decision.
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== Sugarizer missing from sugar-devel@ ==
 
== Sugarizer missing from sugar-devel@ ==
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Discussions about Sugarizer are not only not happening on sugar-devel@, but questions about Sugarizer are not being answered, and students could not find Lionel's mail address.
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Lionel agreed to add his mail address to his GitHub profile.
    
== Complaints ==
 
== Complaints ==
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Samson has received confidential complaints about Sugar Labs;
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* we are unsafe, rude, and don't want to listen,
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* we don't take our vision seriously,
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We discussed;
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* who we are,
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* this is an important issue,
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* newcomers can think their ideas are wonderful,
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* careful replies are seen as condescending,
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* possibility of anonymous suggestion box, risks of further trolling,
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* need to accommodate new and veteran contributors, ... let them make mistakes and learn,
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* we are all very pressured time-size,
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* possibility of a survey,
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* how asking questions about a problem makes a problem larger,
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* it is so boring to repeat the same advice over and over,
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* we might ask our Ombudsman to investigate,
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* we have a welcome to Sugar Labs checklist, (lists the skills and achievements to attain),
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* private complaints should be public so the community can react,
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* use more empathy,
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* a perception of non-inclusiveness, caused by using wrong forum, code of conduct,
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Meeting closed at around 21:20.
 
Meeting closed at around 21:20.