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Lionel agreed to add his mail address to his GitHub profile.
 
Lionel agreed to add his mail address to his GitHub profile.
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We did not make a decision.
    
== Complaints ==
 
== Complaints ==
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* who we are,
 
* who we are,
 
* this is an important issue,
 
* this is an important issue,
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* why people would tell Samson,
 
* newcomers can think their ideas are wonderful,
 
* newcomers can think their ideas are wonderful,
* careful replies are seen as condescending,
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* hasty replies are seen as rude and brief, yet careful replies are seen as rude and condescending,
* possibility of anonymous suggestion box, risks of further trolling,
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* the complaint can be a criticism of the power we have in the meritocracy, (or a failure to engage in the meritocracy),
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* possibility of anonymous suggestion box, or survey, but this risks further trolling, and how asking questions about a problem makes a problem larger,
 
* need to accommodate new and veteran contributors, ... let them make mistakes and learn,
 
* need to accommodate new and veteran contributors, ... let them make mistakes and learn,
* we are all very pressured time-size,
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* we are all very pressured time-wise, it is so boring to repeat the same advice over and over,
* possibility of a survey,
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* how asking questions about a problem makes a problem larger,
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* it is so boring to repeat the same advice over and over,
   
* we might ask our Ombudsman to investigate,
 
* we might ask our Ombudsman to investigate,
 
* we have a welcome to Sugar Labs checklist, (lists the skills and achievements to attain),
 
* we have a welcome to Sugar Labs checklist, (lists the skills and achievements to attain),
 
* private complaints should be public so the community can react,
 
* private complaints should be public so the community can react,
 
* use more empathy,
 
* use more empathy,
* a perception of non-inclusiveness, caused by using wrong forum, code of conduct,
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* the assisting mentor issue; a perception of non-inclusiveness, caused by using wrong forum, a code of conduct issue.
 
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We did not make a decision.
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Meeting closed at around 21:20.
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Meeting closed at around 21:12.