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== Some Discussion on SoaS and using it on the XO ==
'''Can I get SoaS on my XO?''' is a FAQ without a simple answer.
# Should SoaS2's software artifacts include a XO-1 NAND .img/crc file at all?
[[#Original_IRC_Discussion|An IRC discussion on #sugar]] raised the [[#Discussion_Items|following questions for discussion]]:
== Discussion Items ==
=== NAND images ===
* Should SoaS2's software artifacts include a XO-1 NAND .img/crc file?
:This would allow people to not have to convert the Soas2 .iso to a NAND .img (or to transfer the .iso to a USB key and run liveinst after booting from that stick).
:This section is intentionally not titled "jffs2 images".
=== non-Fedora bits ===
* Should Soas2's software artifacts include non-Fedora (that is, non-upstream) bits or yum repositories? For example: a) OLPC kernel (2.6.25); or b) Via wireless drivers?
:Though (and this is potentially a big "though") these bits/repos must be supported by SugarLabs without any upstream assistance (this statement is a bit less equivocal than strictly necessary), they would provide a solution with a lot more working features. For example, it's hard to imagine an accepted XO-1 solution without power management, or an accepted Eee (is that Via???) solution without wireless. However, these may not be enough of SoaS's target audience to merit the additional work.
=== OLPC-like update mechanism ===
* Should an [[OLPC:User:Mstone/Commentaries/Mass olpc-update|olpc-update-like]] mechanism be supported? This is quite a lot of work. There is still some [http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-update/ work being done on olpc-update].
== Background ==
== Background ==
=== Comparison ===
=== Comparison ===
Neither SoaS nor Rawhide XO currently support XO-1 power management, display management, or mesh networking. SoaS2's next release will not; Rawhide XO will.
* Neither SoaS nor Rawhide XO currently support XO-1 power management, display management, or mesh networking. SoaS2's next release will not; Rawhide XO will.
* SoaS is being maintained by SugarLabs, Rawhide XO by OLPC. Both are built using the same (rawhide) RPM repos and common kickstart files. They are both composed from a set of kickstart files in the same repo: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas
* Soas2 and Rawhide-XO are built at different times by different groups, and this is expected to continue.
=== Sugar on a Stick ===
=== Sugar on a Stick ===
Codename: ''SoaS''. See more about goals at [[Sugar on a Stick/Project Goals]]. Target audience: USB-stick instances of Sugar that are portable among different computers. Also used to refer to the *next* version of Sugar on a Stick (as opposed to *any future* version).
Codename: ''SoaS''. See more about goals at [[Sugar_on_a_Stick/Project_Goals]]. Target audience: USB-stick instances of Sugar that are portable among different computers. Also used to refer to the *next* version of Sugar on a Stick (as opposed to *any future* version).
* SoaS target hardware: anything supported by Fedora 11 (and exactly Fedora 11 - for example XO-1s will run SoaS but, currently, without OLPC's power management and mesh networking patches. See the Discussion section below.)
* SoaS target hardware: anything supported by Fedora 11 (and exactly Fedora 11 - for example XO-1s will run SoaS but, currently, without OLPC's power management and mesh networking patches. See the Discussion section below.)
* SoaS current software: Fedora 11; Sugar 0.84
* SoaS current software: Fedora 11; Sugar 0.84
=== Rawhide XO ===
=== Rawhide XO ===
Latest OLPC software spin. See more about goals at [[OLPC:Rawhide-XO]]. "Rawhide-XO" also refers to the as-yet-unnamed next OLPC release for the XO-1 (all details TBD, including target hardware)
* Rawhide XO target hardware: XO-1, XO-1.5
* Rawhide XO target hardware: XO-1, XO-1.5
* Rawhide XO current software: snapshots based on Rawhide, approaching F11
* Rawhide XO current software: snapshots based on Rawhide, approaching F11
* Rawhide XO target software: Fedora 12, Sugar 0.86
* Rawhide XO target software: Fedora 12, Sugar 0.86
== Appendix 1: Original IRC Discussion ==
== Original IRC Discussion ==
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