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~~A 12-person SOAS decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel~~|~~September, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.~~

== Mandate ==

==Overview==

{{~~quote~~|

:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:

A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.

:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

The Oversight Board requested a final report, but none was received [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|by 2009-12-04]]. The Oversight Board then assumed responsibility for deciding the mandated questions (ibid.). A summary [[#Conclusion|is below]].

:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

==Mandate==

{{Box|

:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:

:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

}}

== Members ==

* Sebastian Dziallas

==Members==

* Sebastian Dziallas

* Luke Faraone

* Martin Dengler

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* Caryl Bigenho

* Daniel Drake

* Abhishek Indoria

== ~~Process~~ ==

== Procedures ==

~~The process for discussion and reaching a decision is not yet set.~~

The [[:Decision panels#Procedures|Decision Panel procedures]] were adopted.

~~== Talk summaries ==~~

Discussion took place on the [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SoaS mailing list] with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".

~~Should Sugar Labs be a GNU~~/~~Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?<~~/b>

~~Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another? ~~

== Report ==

~~Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution? ~~

== Conclusion ==

In the [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|absence]] of a final report the Oversight board decided [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Question 1,]] [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|Question 2,]] and [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Question 3]]:

{{Box|

:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|No]]. SL wishes to spread the use of Sugar and consequently works with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.

:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|No.]] SL may promote one distribution in its marketing campaign, but encourages all GNU/Linux distributions to package and distribute Sugar, and if possible will assist with hosting and infrastructure.

:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Yes.]] "Sugar on a Stick" should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and process is put in place: SoaS will be the first project to go through that process.

:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"

:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Sugar Labs' intent to promote Sugar as widely as possible]] means that SL will work with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.

}}

Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?

==Further ideas==

~~Potential naming conventions: ~~

* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>

* discussion of potential naming conventions.

* discussion of ''how'' to support products such as SOAS, and what that means

* exploration of what it means to "produce a distribution", which some active contributors felt was a huge effort and others felt was already being done, with most effort happening upstream. Better agreement within the community about what is being done may help avoid distracting meta-debates about direction.

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-A 12-person SOAS decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
+{{TOCright2|limit=2}}
-== Mandate ==
+==Overview==
-{{quote|
-:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
+A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
-:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
-:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+The Oversight Board requested a final report, but none was received [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|by 2009-12-04]].  The Oversight Board then assumed responsibility for deciding the mandated questions (ibid.).  A summary [[#Conclusion|is below]].
-:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
-:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
+==Mandate==
+{{Box|
+:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
+:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
+:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
+:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
 }}
-== Members ==
-*  Sebastian Dziallas
+==Members==
+* Sebastian Dziallas
 * Luke Faraone
 * Martin Dengler
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 * Caryl Bigenho
 * Daniel Drake
 * Abhishek Indoria
-== Process ==
+== Procedures ==
-The process for discussion and reaching a decision is not yet set.
+The [[:Decision panels#Procedures|Decision Panel procedures]] were adopted.
-== Talk summaries ==
+Discussion took place on the [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archives/soas SoaS mailing list] with subject lines beginning with the text "[DP]".
-<b>Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?</b>
-<b>Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another? </b>
+== Report ==
+{{:Decision panels/SOAS/Report}}
-<b>Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution? </b>
+== Conclusion ==
+In the  [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|absence]] of a final report  the Oversight board decided [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Question 1,]] [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|Question 2,]] and [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Question 3]]:
+{{Box|
+:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|No]].  SL wishes to spread the use of Sugar and consequently works with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
+:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|No.]] SL may promote one distribution in its marketing campaign, but encourages all GNU/Linux distributions to package and distribute Sugar, and if possible will assist with hosting and infrastructure.
+:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Yes.]]  "Sugar on a Stick" should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and process is put in place: SoaS will be the first project to go through that process.
+:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
+:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Sugar Labs' intent to promote Sugar as widely as possible]] means that SL will work with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
+}}
-<b>Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution? </b>
+==Further ideas==
-<b>Potential naming conventions: </b>
-* Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com>
+* discussion of potential naming conventions.
+* discussion of ''how'' to support products such as SOAS, and what that means
+* exploration of what it means to "produce a distribution", which some active contributors felt was a huge effort and others felt was already being done, with most effort happening upstream.  Better agreement within the community about what is being done may help avoid distracting meta-debates about direction.
 [[category:decision panels]]