Karma:Meeting 09 Jun 2009

NOTE: The content of this page is considered DEPRECATED and OBSOLETE It is preserved for historical research, along with its talk page. Outdated meeting notes Subzero having trouble doing animation Still thinks he can make Friday's deadline Should try to get a js expert to assist subzero, perhaps Chris Blizzard? Bryan will ask Walter to assist. Subzero to blog about challenges of using JavaScript for animation IRC log <BryanWB> subzero: hey dude! <-- satellit has quit ("Leaving") <subzero> iwikiwi: do you have news about your xo? <BryanWB> subzero: how are things? get your XO yet? <subzero> BryanWB: how are you? <BryanWB> subzero: good, busy <subzero> BryanWB: not yet. I got a tracking number <BryanWB> subzero: how is progress? subzero: btw i can only talk for 40 minutes, then i have to go to the office <subzero> BryanWB: it's hard to join animation with everything else :S <BryanWB> subzero: damn <subzero> BryanWB: ok <BryanWB> subzero: should we try to get additional assistance for you? <subzero> BryanWB: I think it's because. 1. there are no layers 2. how to run things in parallel <BryanWB> subzero: u can run webworkers in parallel subzero: i wonder if we should contact chris blizzard <subzero> BryanWB: a hand could be useful, jquery-dev? <BryanWB> subzero: maybe, i do believe that chris blizzard is working on webworkers for js in mozilla and he used to work at OLPC, maybe Walter could help <subzero> BryanWB: chris, I thin he is your friend, right? <BryanWB> subzero: but u should first blog about problems and then e-mail jquery-en and jquery-dev subzero: my friend Chris probably doesn't know much about animation w/ js subzero: mi amigo cristobal marin, distinto de chris blizzard, quien trabaja a mozilla tony_f tomeu <subzero> BryanWB: oh, I'm sorry about the confusion <BryanWB> tomeu: no te preocupes ;) sorry ^^ for subzero tony_f tomeu tomeu: u in touch w/ cblizzard? <subzero> so, should I write chris blizzard? <BryanWB> subzero: do u think u will make Friday's deadline? <subzero> I'll do my best <BryanWB> subzero: just do you most hackish best and get whatever is working onto karma.sugarlabs.org by Friday evening <subzero> BryanWB: yes, with a lot of troubles... but I'll have something (more or less) working BryanWB: ok <BryanWB> subzero: u r a talented guy. I am confident that u can get it working in a minimalist way by Friday subzero: then take 30 minutes to write about it on the blog subzero: it will be easier for others to help us once they see what we are trying to do <bemasc> subzero: maybe worth asking questions in #firefox? <subzero> BryanWB: yes, thanks. <BryanWB> subzero: sorry i haven't been more helpful w/ the animation. This last week QA for E-Paath is kicking my butt <subzero> bemasc: mm, why not?, thanks! <subzero> BryanWB: don't worry man. while you put me in the right direction all will be right <BryanWB> subzero: are you at the point now where u would like to talk w/ an expert or do want to wait until after Friday? subzero: we can see if Walter can connect us to Chris Blizzard, since jeresig hasn't responded to our requests <subzero> BryanWB: btw, you're aiming unit testing for karma in the future, I like the idea <BryanWB> subzero: in the long-run yes subzero: but almost as important is a really easy way to see what errors are in the build <subzero> BryanWB: if it's possible talk with an expert <BryanWB> subzero: we have been doing some testing w/ E-Paath but hard to track if not output to a webpage subzero: alright, i will e-mail walter once we're done <subzero> BryanWB: ok! BryanWB: btw, what do you think about backwards compatibility with sound? <BryanWB> subzero: let's worry about backwards-compatibility later subzero: let's get something working then make it robust subzero: i think we should focus on <audio> for now and html5 <subzero> BryanWB: ok, so I'll be using the current code for <audio> (just ogg) <BryanWB> subzero: i am even more excited about html5 since the Palm Pre is taking off and google wave is built on top of it <subzero> BryanWB: yes, google wave seems really interesting <-- nubae has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <BryanWB> subzero: do u have more to say about animation challenges w/ js than what you wrote here http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/animation-with-jquery/ ? <subzero> BryanWB: yes!, a lot more BryanWB: new post? <BryanWB> subzero: it would be best if u could write that up before we ask blizzard and/or jeresig for help <subzero> BryanWB: ok <BryanWB> subzero: "animation w/ js" is a very broad area subzero: explaining our particular issues will make it easier for them to help <subzero> BryanWB: so, are yous aying to reduce the area? <BryanWB> subzero: no, no, just explain problems u r having <subzero> BryanWB: ok <BryanWB> subzero: when u say animation w/ js, peolpe often think of 3D and highly complex stuff, not what we want --> nubae (n=nubae@91-113-91-126.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #sugar blendmaster1024 (n=blendmas@75-169-209-188.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #sugar <subzero> BryanWB: #firefox they're saying the same than you "web workers" BryanWB: ooooh, that's right <BryanWB> subzero: i believe webworkers is a W3C standards subzero: and other browsers are implementing them <subzero> BryanWB: I'm looking about official info.. <BryanWB> subzero: http://www.w3.org/TR/workers/ <subzero> BryanWB: man, you're faster than me :) <BryanWB> subzero: sorry dude, i remembered the url ;) <-- tony_f has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") <BryanWB> subzero: looks like chrome will support them soon too http://m.cnet.com/site?sid=cnet&pid=News.Detail&category=2&topic=10251563 html5 has soo much momentum behind it, just amazes me <dirakx> gcompris activities are heavely promoted to ASLO ..;) <subzero> BryanWB: webworkers seems that I'll use it <BryanWB> subzero: cool, so i have to go in a little bit subzero: can u get a blog post out in the next couple hours about animation issues? Please don't spend than 30 minutes on it s/spend/spend more/ <subzero> BryanWB: yep BryanWB: I'm on the way <BryanWB> subzero: great, then I will e-mail walter and ask for help <subzero> BryanWB: excellent <BryanWB> subzero: anything else? <subzero> BryanWB: mmm, that's all I think <BryanWB> subzero: here are just quick notes http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma:Meeting_09_Jun_2009