Development Team/Meetings
About
- Quick update about what we have been working on and eventually the problems we have run into.
- Discussion about the implementation details of tickets we are planning to work on. Figure out how to split up the work and who should be owning the various parts.
- Questions from activity authors about specific aspects of the platform and more in general on how to better integrate their activity in Sugar. Report about problems they run into.
- Help out new contributors to figure out where to start. Point out the tickets we need help with, discuss with them the implementation.
When and where
- weekly
- tusday
- 17.00(UTC)
- irc.freenode.net, #olpc-meeting
Every tuesday on irc.freenode.net, in the #olpc-meeting channel. Since people from the outside might not have the time to join weekly we will alternate in big and small meetings. The big meeting will try to be more general to allow to get the big picture. The first meeting in 2008 (19th February) was a big meeting so the 26th February will be a small one and so on... The time is not well defined yet but for now we scheduled it at 17.00(UTC). To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-02-18 17:00 UTC'
Who
The meeting is mainly targeted to Sugar core and activity developers, but everyone interested is welcome to join. It's primary purpose is to try to open up a bit the development, make it more transparent and allow the community to participate more easily. For when to join best see 'When and Where'.
Meetings
Tuesday March 25 2008 ("TTL-meeting") exceptional time: 15.00 (UTC)
Logs
Attending
Topics
TTS
Tuesday March 18 2008 ("big")
Logs
http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/sugar_meeting_Mar_18.log
Attending
tomeu, bertf, erikos, eben, HFactor, shikhar, santhosh
Topics
Update on everybody's work
- Redesign Home view (tomeu)
- Eben has been contributing code to match the UI design.
- Working now on visual notification for activity launch.
- Anybody interested can build and run inside jhbuild the following modules:
- Control Panel (erikos)
- Working now on providing a fade-out look around the dialog. Investigating the new matchbox that contains much improved composition support.
- Develop (homunq): can't attend the meeting but check it out. Search/replace is a mess but anything else, go ahead and start posting bugs. http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=activities/develop;a=summary . To resume editing on the activity bundles it creates, you need to use the DoppelJournal activity (included in the git tree), which is a renamed copy of journal with the relevant bug fixed. Homunq 09:43, 18 March 2008 (EDT) "git clone git://dev.laptop.org/activities/develop"
- santhosh and HFactor present Dhvani, a text-to-speech system for indian languages.
- santhosh has already worked into integrating Dhvani into Speech Dispatcher.
- Dhvani will need to be packaged in Fedora.
- Would be good to have a meeting next week with all the people interested in TTS.
Tuesday March 11 2008 ("small")
Logs
http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/sugar_meeting_Mar_11.log
Attending
garycmartin, eben, benzea, cjb, homunq, ChristophD
Topics
- meeting reminder
- people can put topics on the wiki until Tuesday morning
- erikos will send a message including these topics to the sugar-ml so more people read the topics and can join if it sounds interesting
- sugar-control-panel
- development: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/erikos/sugar;a=shortlog;h=controlpanel
- sugar-control-panel an activity?
- Eben made an interesting remark: The new design for the Journal supports actions that aren't "activities" so you are able to keep record of changes you made with the control panel (e.g. you changed your colors today").
- Lots of current activities don't have a bundle .xo for download on the Wiki
- this got special attention due to the build core changes
- how do we best address this issue?
- encourage the activity authors to upload bundles and update the links on the wiki or provide a mechanism in bundlebuilder or at another place?
Tuesday March 4 2008 ("big")
Logs
http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/sugar_meeting_Mar_04.log
Attending
- person, task, where
- Homunq, Develop, Guatemala (UTC-6)
- morgs, presence, ZA
- bertf, Etoys, Germany
- erikos
- tomeu
- eben
- garycmartin
Topics
- Latest redesign mockups
- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs
- new developments can be tracked at: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/tomeu/sugar;a=summary
- Sugar Control Panel (GUI)
- mockup:
- Changes to sugar requested for Develop Homunq 11:29, 4 March 2008 (EST)
- action item: create tickets for "Journal should let activity bundles be started in Develop". Done: <trac>6639</trac>. Also discussed: <trac>4365</trac>, <trac>6557</trac>, and <trac>2892</trac>.
- Speech synthesis: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-March/004411.html
- action item: eben reply to the thread
- New LiveCD with updated sugar packages: http://meta.fuentelibre.org/trac/wiki/LiveCD
- hardy packages + xubuntu in spanish
- "Faster" branch speedups -- status? Anyone planning on working on these?
- it is on the latest sugar roadmap so we want to work on it
- action item: Michael can you comment on what is needed here regarding kernel changes http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2276
Tuesday February 26 2008 ("small")
Logs
http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/sugar_meeting_Feb_26.log
Attending
tomeu, erikos, garycmartin, morgs
Topics
- eben's notes about the redesign wiki.laptop.org/go/Design
- does the journal belongs into the shell or is it an activity, Eben?
- added a journal as core metaphor mock-up image --garycmartin 1:49, 29 February 2008
- presence service
- scalability issues for update.1
- morgs does want to look into groups
- groups would work like friending, there would be multiple groups, groups a teacher can add children to ad potentially multiple friend groups #4043
- would be interesting to know how hard the deployment need this
- webkit
- try to compare webkit http://live.gnome.org/WebKitGtk (comes with python bindings http://live.gnome.org/PyWebKitGtk) with xulrunner
- sugar
- accelerators (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-February/004344.html)
- benzea fixed palette issues (http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar-toolkit;a=commit;h=c9871633e3f3b38bcb8ae388ebeaaa81ad4123c9, http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar-toolkit;a=commit;h=826bf9dd4caa07903346a756f34779da3c6c47b1)
- browse: add right click and search
- add control panel option to set delay before frame pops in
- notifications: box containing an activity icon that pops up when someone is 'calling', could be used for notifications about devices, invitations and adding to the frame,
- Eben you had something like that in one mockup that each corner was used for different notifications?
Tuesday February 19 2008 ("big")
Logs
http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/sugar_meeting_Feb_19.log
Attending
tomeu, erikos, cjb, ChristophD, daja77, Ridderman
Topics
- roadmap: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_Roadmap
- Tomeu tried to describe the latest mockups for the New Home view and Frame design.
- UI for sugar-control-panel, ChristophD appearently did some work on this (early screenshot and info)
- Activity handbook:
- "The purpose of the activity handbook is to provide you with all the information you need in order to get started with software development for the OLPC XO."
- http://www.olpcaustria.org/mediawiki/index.php/Activity_handbook
- currently working on chapters about GUI elements and Journal, next update should become available over the next 2 weeks
- distribute/share activity
- distribute Journal entries and activities
- use ObjectChooser to choose the object to share
- bemasc was not around to discuss his activity
- Message Board activity
- the idea is to have some way of providing a persistent message board without a school server or Internet access.
- if you have a school server it could be a webpage on the school server
- for example, every laptop could broadcast every message board note it's seen and the activity could know to collate them and remove duplicates
- passing a USB stick with a portable mediawiki
- Disconnected backups
- Ridderman is working on focus bugs in Sugar / GTK. Kind of a nuts and bolts bug - http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2045
Tuesday October 30 2007
(all the meeting logs go here: http://www.pseudorandom.co.uk/tmp/freenode-olpc-meeting.log)
- How do we log the meeting. (see above)
- Quick status updates.
- Reinier introduction.
- #4022 browser cannot open files generated by view source.
- #3239 Control Panel, user preferences
- Correct way to get access to temporary file space during activity execution ?
- Update1. Branching and trac.
- Module maintainers. Distribute the release duties.
- Managing the build system chaos. (idea: coordinated releases of the Sugar core. What is core?)
- How do we bring back joyride into shape.
- What API changes to expect before next milestone.
Who is where:
bertf: Germany Cassidy: BE daf: UK edsiper: Chile Erikos: Germany hmmmbird: SA marcopg: Italy morgs: SA rwh: NL Sjoerd: NL smcv: UK
bertf: E-toys, implementing tubes Smcv: audit/improve tubes usage edsiper: developer console: stripping down, composed of 3 activities: Analyze, Log, Terminal http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_Environment cassidy: finishing stream tubes in Salut morgs: working on PresenceService reliability improvements, Connect sjoerd: finishing hmmmbird: WorldWideWorkshop Joke Machine (waiting #3060) marcopg: had meeting with Ivan and Tomeu about backups, marcopg & Tomeu do sugar side, Ivan client/server (school server), fighting with build system erikos: works on control panel, functioning version tomeu: next to backups, screenshots uwogBB: Implement support for custom keybindings, develop AbiCollab debug tooling, Implement "find" support in Write (done)
ACTIONS:
bertf: talk to smcv about tubes marcopg: list of activities, list of modules, assign some sugar + activity tickets to rwh, drop the created xm branch and create an update1 one
morgs: talk to jg about getting bot up for logs smcv: post logs at: http://www.pseudorandom.co.uk/tmp/freenode-olpc-meeting.log erikos: check for #4022 everything for 'Hint write about using txt with a view_source property' seems in place already
erikos: control panel, user preferences:do not move olpc-update into script, fix radio on/off, restart sugar hmmmbird: Correct way to get access to temporary file space during activity execution ? should use use get_activity_root() instead of /tmp everyone: read Walter's mail for clarification of the names (Update1 etc) module_owners: module owners should create update1 branches as necessary (help: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Git_Tips)
- The branch/build procedure discussion is moved to the journal/tubes meeting