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In order to remain innovative and current, and to take advantage of the latest developments, Sugar needs to follow suit and move to GTK3 and PyGI. Lagging behind on this conversion is already bringing negative consequences to Sugar; notably 2 of our most important activities (Read and Browse) are already broken and without a future until we catch up again.
 
In order to remain innovative and current, and to take advantage of the latest developments, Sugar needs to follow suit and move to GTK3 and PyGI. Lagging behind on this conversion is already bringing negative consequences to Sugar; notably 2 of our most important activities (Read and Browse) are already broken and without a future until we catch up again.
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Unfortunately, this is an API-incompatible change. As confirmed by the PyGI developers, PyGTK and PyGI cannot be mixed in the same process. If sugar-toolkit were to be simply replaced with a PyGI/GTK3 port, this means that all activities would stop working until they themselves have also been ported - <b>all activities will need modifications as part of this feature</b>. The community has expressed desire for old activities to continue working (many are unmaintained); unfortunately this is not realistic in the long term. As a compromise, this feature discussion includes the requirement that for a certain period of time, both PyGTK/GTK2 and PyGI/GTK3 activities must be able to function alongside each other.
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This task will involve modifications to almost every file within Sugar and its activities. Although much of this work can be automated, and the porting process for a given chunk of code is usually trivial, it is still a huge task. This feature discussion attempts to identify ways that this porting process can be done in distinct stages, where Sugar remains functional at the completion of each stage, making this more manageable.
  
 
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# PyGI is technologically better than PyGTK. It is a nicer way of calling into GObject-style libraries from Python that means less maintenance is needed upstream (PyGObject automates the creation of bindings to a degree much higher than PyGTK ever could, and automatically achieves more complete coverage).
 
# PyGI is technologically better than PyGTK. It is a nicer way of calling into GObject-style libraries from Python that means less maintenance is needed upstream (PyGObject automates the creation of bindings to a degree much higher than PyGTK ever could, and automatically achieves more complete coverage).
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# PyGTK is no longer maintained; PyGI is actively maintained.
 
# The move to GTK3 allows us to [http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2011/05/time-to-port-your-python-application-to.html keep up with our GNOME neighbours], as they improve and refine the base technologies that we share.
 
# The move to GTK3 allows us to [http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2011/05/time-to-port-your-python-application-to.html keep up with our GNOME neighbours], as they improve and refine the base technologies that we share.
 
# The move to PyGI is expected to result in [http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/reducing-sugars-memory-usage.html lower memory usage and faster startup].
 
# The move to PyGI is expected to result in [http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/reducing-sugars-memory-usage.html lower memory usage and faster startup].
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Sugar is divided into different components, many of which run in different processes. This means that we are able to
  
 
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Revision as of 08:09, 20 July 2011


Summary

Sugar needs to rebase itself on new generations of its key underlying technologies: GTK+ 3 and PyGObject Introspection. This page aims to summarise options and community opinions around this challenging shift, and to help formulate a plan of how it will be executed. In other words, it tries to take community input, answer all the unanswered questions, and present a logical path forward that can be adopted by the developers.

Owner

  • This plan/proposal maintained by Daniel Drake (other editors welcome!)
  • A number of developers will be needed at each stage to successfully execute this; Daniel offers his assistance for a coordination/oversight role if that would be useful.

Current status

  • Targeted release: (SUGAR_VERSION)
  • Last updated: (DATE)
  • Percentage of completion: XX%

Detailed Description

Two major changes have recently occurred in Sugar's underlying technologies. Firstly, GTK+ 2 has been obsoleted by GTK+ 3, and GNOME is now based on GTK+ 3. Secondly, PyGTK, the underlying Python library that Sugar uses to call into GTK+, has been deprecated in favour of PyGObject Introspection (hereafter "PyGI").

In order to remain innovative and current, and to take advantage of the latest developments, Sugar needs to follow suit and move to GTK3 and PyGI. Lagging behind on this conversion is already bringing negative consequences to Sugar; notably 2 of our most important activities (Read and Browse) are already broken and without a future until we catch up again.

Unfortunately, this is an API-incompatible change. As confirmed by the PyGI developers, PyGTK and PyGI cannot be mixed in the same process. If sugar-toolkit were to be simply replaced with a PyGI/GTK3 port, this means that all activities would stop working until they themselves have also been ported - all activities will need modifications as part of this feature. The community has expressed desire for old activities to continue working (many are unmaintained); unfortunately this is not realistic in the long term. As a compromise, this feature discussion includes the requirement that for a certain period of time, both PyGTK/GTK2 and PyGI/GTK3 activities must be able to function alongside each other.

This task will involve modifications to almost every file within Sugar and its activities. Although much of this work can be automated, and the porting process for a given chunk of code is usually trivial, it is still a huge task. This feature discussion attempts to identify ways that this porting process can be done in distinct stages, where Sugar remains functional at the completion of each stage, making this more manageable.

Benefit to Sugar

  1. PyGI is technologically better than PyGTK. It is a nicer way of calling into GObject-style libraries from Python that means less maintenance is needed upstream (PyGObject automates the creation of bindings to a degree much higher than PyGTK ever could, and automatically achieves more complete coverage).
  2. PyGTK is no longer maintained; PyGI is actively maintained.
  3. The move to GTK3 allows us to keep up with our GNOME neighbours, as they improve and refine the base technologies that we share.
  4. The move to PyGI is expected to result in lower memory usage and faster startup.
  5. Browse has no future under GTK2, it needs to move to WebKit and that move is dependent on Sugar moving to PyGI/GTK3.
  6. Similarly, Read has a grim future under GTK2 due to static evince bindings no longer being maintained and libevince itself moved to GTK3; we need to switch to PyGI/GTK3 to be able to keep calling into evince and let the Read activity live on.

Implementation Plan

Sugar is divided into different components, many of which run in different processes. This means that we are able to

API changes

The fact that almost all Sugar components and activities require sweeping changes as part of this shift presents an interesting opportunity for us to make API changes in sugar-toolkit. The importance here should still be placed on the technology shift, rather than on the opportunity to produce a perfect API (which we could spend all eternity designing and discussing), but this is an opportunity that we should not miss.

I propose that once sugar-toolkit is ported and mostly operational, we run a 30-day window where API changes that have seen some kind of planning and discussion below can be made and committed.

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http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.laptop.olpc.sugar/30466

Scope

What work do the developers have to accomplish to complete the feature in time for release? Is it a large change affecting many parts of the distribution or is it a very isolated change? What are those changes?

UI Design

Does the feature have a direct impact on the work flow, or does it need a UI? Link here mockups, or add detailed descriptions.

How To Test

Features/GTK3/Testing

User Experience

If this feature is noticeable by its target audience, how will their experiences change as a result? Describe what they will see or notice.

Dependencies

What other packages (RPMs) depend on this package? Are there changes outside the developers' control on which completion of this feature depends? In other words, does your feature depend on completion of another feature owned by someone else or that you would need to coordinate, which might cause you to be unable to finish on time? Other upstream projects like Python?

Contingency Plan

If you cannot complete your feature by the final development freeze, what is the backup plan? This might be as simple as "None necessary, revert to previous release behaviour." Or it might not. If your feature is not completed in time, we want to assure others that other parts of Sugar will not be in jeopardy.

Documentation

Is there upstream documentation on this feature, or notes you have written yourself? Has this topic been discussed in the mailing list or during a meeting? Link to that material here so other interested developers can get involved.

Release Notes

The Sugar Release Notes inform end-users about what is new in the release. An Example is 0.84/Notes. The release notes also help users know how to deal with platform changes such as ABIs/APIs, configuration or data file formats, or upgrade concerns. If there are any such changes involved in this feature, indicate them here. You can also link to upstream documentation if it satisfies this need. This information forms the basis of the release notes edited by the release team and shipped with the release.

Comments and Discussion