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Platform Team/Package Management System/Getting started (view source)
Revision as of 15:56, 3 July 2012
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[[User:Alsroot|Aleksey]] has prepared a new distribution model for Sugar called [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets]], and asks about introducing it to non developers, {{Bug|3249}}.
[[User:Alsroot|Aleksey]] has prepared a new distribution model for Sugar called [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets]], and asks about introducing it to non developers, {{Bug|3249}}.
:: Sorry, but the ticket was about [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets Usage]], not about [[Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution |Sweets Distribution]]. [[User:Alsroot|alsroot]] 01:18, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:: Sorry, but the ticket was about [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets Usage]], not about [[Sweets Distribution]]. [[User:Alsroot|alsroot]] 01:18, 3 December 2011 (EST)
::: OK, good example of the confusion possible. From [[Platform Team/Sweets]], the assumption is made that,
::: OK, good example of the confusion possible. From [[Platform Team/Sweets]], the assumption is made that,
::: "It is important to stimulate users into becoming doers—to modify existing activities, and to share the results of their experiments with other people, viz., a distribution method should handle different variants of the same project.";
::: "It is important to stimulate users into becoming doers—to modify existing activities, and to share the results of their experiments with other people, viz., a distribution method should handle different variants of the same project.";
*Here is my log for fedora 16 gnome3-shell install of sweets-sugar:
*Here is my log for fedora 16 gnome3-shell install of sweets-sugar:
::http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Installing_sweets-sugar_in_Fedora-16_gnome3-shell -- [[User:Satellit|satellit_]] 8:03 3 December 2011 (PST)
::http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets#Installing_sweets-sugar_in_Fedora-16_gnome3-shell -- [[User:Satellit|satellit_]] 8:03 3 December 2011 (PST)
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''My introduction to the Package Management System might be a brief summary of these pages:''
These pages could be very roughly classified as
<span style="background:#ccffcc;">overview</span>,
<span style="background:#cce5ff;">conceptual</span>,
<span style="background:#ffccfe;">technical</span>,
or <span style="background:#ffe6cc;">Let's try it</span>
<span style="background:#ffe6cc;">Introductory page, Sweets is a [[Platform Team/Package Management System|Package Management System]]</span>
<span style="background:#ccffcc;">[[Platform_Team/Infrastructure|Infrastructure]]</span> This page describes the infrastructure map that the Platform Team provides.
<span style="background:#ffccfe;">[[Platform Team/Package Management System/Architecture|Architecture]]</span> This guide covers basic Sweets concepts.
<span style="background:#ffccfe;">[[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Packaging|Sweets Packaging]]</span>,This guide describes how to prepare software projects for sweets.
<span style="background:#cce5ff;">[[Platform Team/Glossary|Sweets glossary]]</span> Some useful terms.
This guide describes how to run Sugar using Sugar via sweets
<span style="background:#ffe6cc;">[[Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets|Sugar via Sweets]]</span>
This guide describes how to use Sugar Labs' Packaging Management System
<span style="background:#ffe6cc;">[[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets Usage]].</span>
<span style="background:#cce5ff;">[[Platform_Team/Harmonic_Distribution|Harmonic_Distribution]]</span> is a systems approach to provide all software tools.
This page, and all its sub-pages, covers implementation of
<span style="background:#cce5ff;">[[Sugar Network]]</span>.
These are overview and usage pages regarding the
<span style="background:#ffe6cc;">[[Sweets Distribution]]</span>.
These are technical pages regarding the
<span style="background:#ffccfe;">[[Platform_Team/Sweets_Distribution|Sweets Distribution]]</span>.
: But that might not actually cover in detail, Sweets Usage. I do see a need to provide further entry level explanation of the difference between sweets and sweets distribution.
:: I would put in a suggestion for the eventual removal of duplication between [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets|Sugar via Sweets]] and [[Platform_Team/Guide/Sweets_Usage|Sweets Usage]]. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 05:16, 28 June 2012 (EDT)
== Target Audience ==
== Target Audience ==
What sort of presentation to use? As a "can opener" can I identify three people in my target audience?
What sort of presentation to use?
'''Features''' Just to record my first impressions, these three links got me up to speed....http://0install.net/why.html ... http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome-packagekit ... [[Platform Team/Guide]]. Followed by {{code | sweets --help}} and {{code | man 0install}}
'''Features''' will be the same for all three audience members. Just to record my first impressions, these three links got me up to speed....http://0install.net/why.html ... http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome-packagekit ... [[Platform_Team/Guide]].
'''Advantages''' - What are the advantages for Tom Dick and Harry? Are we talking educational or productive?
'''Advantages''' - What are the advantages? Are we talking educational or productive?
'''Benefits''' - Are the benefits different for each? Does Sweets open different doors for each?
'''Benefits''' - What are the benefits?
:I find [[Sweets Distribution]] easier to use for Ubuntu' and its Derivatives (Adding an additional Repository to synaptic) as the packages are pre-configured, ready to use.
::[[Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets|Sugar via Sweets]] has a wider applicability to linux OS's but requires a more experienced user. [[User:Satellit|satellit_]] 7:17 4 December 2011 (PST)
::[[Platform_Team/Guide/Sugar_via_Sweets|Sugar via Sweets]] has a wider applicability to linux OS's but requires a more experienced user. [[User:Satellit|satellit_]] 7:17 4 December 2011 (PST)
::: " For now, sweets knows only enough about the glucose dependencies to install them from native packages in Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE, and Gentoo."
::: " For now, sweets knows only enough about the glucose dependencies to install them from native packages in Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE, and Gentoo."
* make Sugar Shell launch as simply and obviously as possible for early adopters,
* make Sugar Shell launch as simply and obviously as possible for early adopters,
* add new entrance for non-doers, the way to run activities via Sweets (big task that requires special treatment).
* add new entrance for non-doers, the way to run activities via Sweets (big task that requires special treatment).
:Perhaps the new web page could help to point the 'way in'. --[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 18:08, 9 January 2012 (EST)
== Explore further documentation ==
== Explore further documentation ==
Based on my limited experience of installing sweets on only two distros, Mint-12 and Debian, testing, Wheezy I have two possible suggestions for improved documentation.
Based on my limited experience of installing sweets on only two distros, Mint-12 and Debian, testing, Wheezy I have two possible suggestions for improved documentation.