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==Installation==
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While it is easy to find the download instructions, the non-GUI [[Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations|installation]] instructions are hard to find [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations#livecd-iso-to-disk_script][http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/Variations#liveusb-creator_from_command_line_in_terminal]and I don't know where the GUI instructions are.[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation] --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 21:28, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
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==[[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]==
 
==[[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]==
 
See [[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]] and [[Talk:Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]. For older versions of this page, see [[/Archive]].
 
See [[Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]] and [[Talk:Sugar on a Stick/FAQ]]. For older versions of this page, see [[/Archive]].
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SoaS is a Linux-based, Sugar-running, delivered-on-a-thumbdrive distribution focused on customizability, deployability, and local support, and meant for 1-to-1 use in schools.
 
SoaS is a Linux-based, Sugar-running, delivered-on-a-thumbdrive distribution focused on customizability, deployability, and local support, and meant for 1-to-1 use in schools.
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The term is currently a trademark owned by SL and used to refer colloquially to several things:
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The term is currently used colloquially to refer to several things:
    
* the code, based on Fedora, that Sebastian has been working on (...for lack of a better descriptor)
 
* the code, based on Fedora, that Sebastian has been working on (...for lack of a better descriptor)
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Who decides:
 
Who decides:
 
A decision panel convened by the SLOBs (the latter is happening now), with strong input from both the current "SoaS" team and the Marketing team. See [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-September/019548.html this mailing list thread calling for discussion panel volunteers].
 
A decision panel convened by the SLOBs (the latter is happening now), with strong input from both the current "SoaS" team and the Marketing team. See [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-September/019548.html this mailing list thread calling for discussion panel volunteers].
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=== Generate a list of SoaS spins ===
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(I'm using the word "spins" because it seems to work - feel free to suggest and use a different one if you've got an alternative.)
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We need a directory of SoaS spins so that developers interested in liveusb Sugar efforts can see which ones are currently ongoing. Developers can call their project whatever they want, so long as it does not interfere with the usage SL decides on for the term "SoaS" (in other words, a SoaS spin can't have the name "SoaS," though it can use the word "SoaS" in conjunction with some other term).
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Current spins:
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* Sebastian Dziallas is calling the coming iteration of the project he is working on '''''Sugar on a Stick, Blueberry''''' [http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg08994.html]; the name of the overall project is not known. '''needs a name'''
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* Other spins?
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This list will also have to be moved to its own (non-talk) page eventually. (If you'd like to volunteer to make that move, just go ahead and do it and announce it to [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas the soas list] and we'll be very grateful!)
      
== Completed next steps ==
 
== Completed next steps ==
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Both decisions would be made by SLOBs or a decision panel convened by the SLOBs. This issue is a peripheral one that isn't particularly within the scope of the current SoaS discussions in this thread, though.
 
Both decisions would be made by SLOBs or a decision panel convened by the SLOBs. This issue is a peripheral one that isn't particularly within the scope of the current SoaS discussions in this thread, though.
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==Soas-v7 Release Announcement==
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[SoaS] ANNOUNCE: Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
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pbrobinson 06/05/2012
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I'd like to announce Sugar on a Stick 7 (Quandong)
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There's been a lot of work go into this release from a lot of
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communities from Fedora and all the Fedora 17 features that give us
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new and exciting hardware support to the Sugar Labs community and all
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the new features that come with the Sugar 0.96 release on which SoaS
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v7 is based.
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Thanks go to all the people that have contributed to this release
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including Kalpa and Thomas who helped directly with SoaS, the Sugar
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development team and other Sugar developers. A lot of work has been
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done to ensure we can get working core Activities like Read and Browse
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and what should a good working base for deployments to test and add
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to.
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Some of the key new features of this release include:
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- Based on Fedora 17 and it's new features [1]
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- Massively improved x86 Mac support [2]
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- Sugar 0.96 with initial support for GTK3 Activities and many other
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improvements [3]
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- Return of Browse, now based on WebKit
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- The long awaited return of Read and inclusion of GetBooks
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- Enhanced hardware support with the 3.3 kernel
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- An increase in default Activities by nearly 50%
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Almost all of the previous Activities have seen updated releases
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including but not limited to:
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- Abacus 35 (GTK3)
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- Record 95
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- Physics 9
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- TurtleArt 138
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Newly added Activities include:
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- Browse 137 (GTK3)
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- Countries 33
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- Finance 7
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- GetBooks 11
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- Help 14 (GTK3)
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- Infoslicer 14
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- Labyrinth 12
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- Paint 43
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- Portfolio 21
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- Read 99 (GTK3)
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There are many more Activities available through the usual Fedora repositories.
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The release name, Quandong, continues the tradition of naming releases
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by types of fruit. The Quandong [4] or Native Peach is a native
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Australian bushfood.
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You can download the release from the following link.
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http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/
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It can also be installed as part of a standard Fedora 17 install and
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is shipped as part of the official Fedora installer DVD and the Fedora
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Multi Spin Live DVD. It can also be installed from the GUI package
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tool within a running Fedora install or by command line "sudo yum
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install @sugar-desktop".
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[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList
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[2] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12037.html
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[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.96/Notes
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[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santalum_acuminatum
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_______________________________________________
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SoaS mailing list
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SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org
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http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
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== Side notes ==
 
== Side notes ==
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Feedback from a first grade teacher: What teachers care about: (1) Is it friendly? (2) Is it consistent? (3) Can the effort needed to maintain it be sustained? What they don't care about: (1)  What group "runs" it? (2) Who owns the trademark? (3) What bleeding-edge features are being developed now for a future release? (3) What is the underlying technology? What would reassure them: (1) Peer support. (2) Seeing it in action, so they can create a "mental paradigm" category for something like Sugar/SoaS.
 
Feedback from a first grade teacher: What teachers care about: (1) Is it friendly? (2) Is it consistent? (3) Can the effort needed to maintain it be sustained? What they don't care about: (1)  What group "runs" it? (2) Who owns the trademark? (3) What bleeding-edge features are being developed now for a future release? (3) What is the underlying technology? What would reassure them: (1) Peer support. (2) Seeing it in action, so they can create a "mental paradigm" category for something like Sugar/SoaS.
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Added Notes:(Tom Gilliard 9/21/2009) "satellit"
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Added Notes:
*1.) F12 and opensuse-edu now distribute a dual mode live.iso of Sugar-Desktop which boots into sugar as a CD or can be used to dd write to a USB/SD "stick". (persistence is a work in progress on these)[[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Dual_Mode_.iso_Files]] [[http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/04/28/whats-behind-lzma-compressed-livecds/]][[http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kiwi;a=blob;f=modules/KIWILinuxRC.sh;h=6591ab5125df730800bf3dc3dde9ce875183568c;hb=HEAD]][[http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/education/]]
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*1.) F12(rawhide) and opensuse-edu now distribute a dual mode live.iso of Sugar-Desktop which boots into sugar as a CD or can be used to dd write to a USB/SD "stick". (persistence is a work in progress on these)[[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Dual_Mode_.iso_Files]] [[http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/04/28/whats-behind-lzma-compressed-livecds/]][[http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kiwi;a=blob;f=modules/KIWILinuxRC.sh;h=6591ab5125df730800bf3dc3dde9ce875183568c;hb=HEAD]][[http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/education/]]
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*2.) Sugar from multiple distros is available[[http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/]] as a VMPlayer or Virtualbox "Appliance" which can be stored on a USB/SD "Stick" and thus is transportable with (persistence) from PC to PC.
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*3.) There are "full installs"(real file structure-not a live system) of: Sugar, Sugar+Gnome, Sugar+KDE on larger(4GB+) USB Sticks which are available for download [[http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/]]in compressed form that can be written to a bootable USB/SD with a dd command in several minutes.
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Added Notes:
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from Soas lists:
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Rubén Rodríguez Pérez
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* Trisquel-Edu (Live USB)
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* Trisquel-Sugar (Announced 09/28/2009)
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I will further explain the differences:
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We are including the Sugar packages in both our 2.2 LTS version (where
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you can find the Trisquel Edu edition), and in our new 3.0 STS version.
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All our live Sugar images will be based on the STS one, as it will
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provide better hardware support.
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Trisquel Edu, which is a GNOME based educational system, can run Sugar
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as an alternate environment, or serve it via LTSP. The Edu edition (like
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the Pro one) is only available in the 2.2 LTS version of the distro. It
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will be the recommended version for large Sugar-on-Trisquel deployments.
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== Development notes ==
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Processes we should document.
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* [http://me.etin.gs/sugar/sugar.log.20100317_1245.html how to make a kickstart file]
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: How to make a remix:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Instructions
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* [http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100319_0950.html minimal kickstart file]
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* Package selection: timeline and criteria. How does stuff make it onto SoaS?
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== Some checksum hash(s) please ==
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The following links are missing the SoaS SHA256 checksum/hashs
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http://fedora-spins.c3sl.ufpr.br/alt/spins/linux/releases/15/Spins/i686/Fedora-15-i686-Spins-CHECKSUM
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http://fedora-spins.c3sl.ufpr.br/alt/spins/linux/releases/15/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-15-x86_64-Spins-CHECKSUM
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Could someone post a png or gif of the hash for these files here since fedora won't update this until F16(Verne) is out.
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*2.) Sugar from multiple distros is available as a VMPlayer or Virtualbox "Appliance" which can be stored on a USB/SD "Stick" and thus is transportable with (persistence) from PC to PC.
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--[[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 11:29, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
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*3.) There are "full installs"(real file structure-not a live system) of: Sugar, Sugar+Gnome, Sugar+KDE on larger(4GB+) USB Sticks which are available for download in compressed form that can be written to a bootable USB/SD with a dd command in several minutes.
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:sha256sum 95650ec1257670e44466e75059ff8b05f636cd78658a025ae52c8992145f778c  Fedora-15-i686-Live-SoaS.iso
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:md5sum 67dc6fe4625f61d9d51f89c082f3c9c3  Fedora-15-i686-Live-SoaS.iso
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Are these also Soas? Or something different and does it matter that much, as long as they are allowing wider distribution and use of SUGAR?
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:sha256sum aa18f9dae1fe8d9bde47a45fefd19f2127dfc1001de3c1f76fbc1f85ec576e0d  Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso
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:md5sum db209baffdef41b7ca029b6e224ed7d1  Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso
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:: from my copies --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 12:30, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
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