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I am waiting for a book on managing Usenet to arrive, so that I can try and fine tune things and use less brute force, as I have never until about a month ago tried to do anything with Usenet other than use a news reader. I chose Network News because it is a tried and true technology and already has everything built into it to weed out duplicate articles, and it was designed to not require any sort of centralized management. It also can be used without any TCP/IP links at all via UUCP or some other method of batching articles and sending them. (USB sticks and SD cards come to mind, as well as traditional dial-up modem file transfers.)
I am waiting for a book on managing Usenet to arrive, so that I can try and fine tune things and use less brute force, as I have never until about a month ago tried to do anything with Usenet other than use a news reader. I chose Network News because it is a tried and true technology and already has everything built into it to weed out duplicate articles, and it was designed to not require any sort of centralized management. It also can be used without any TCP/IP links at all via UUCP or some other method of batching articles and sending them. (USB sticks and SD cards come to mind, as well as traditional dial-up modem file transfers.)
==Feedback==
* I downloaded tn. I got in yesterday evening and posted one news item. But going to the neighborhood I get a page load error trying to connect to Bilbo's news or wiki: 'The connection was refused when attempting to contact nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn.' Seems like a certificate/security problem of some sort. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 15:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
*: That is not a certificitae/security problem it is a bug. you see the network neighborhood page is just a static HTML file that gets re-written when a new host is added to the network map. and bilbo is one of the 3 test laptops over here and when I tarred up the distribution that html file remained and since you don't have two machines on the mesh running the software it probably never updates that file.
*: The only interesting bits at this point in time are the network news and the personal wiki, although network neighborhood is also somewhat interesting (if not crude) when you have 2 or more machines on the mesh running tn. (allows you to browse to another machine's web server and look at/edit someone else's wiki, look at their news spool, etc)
* I tried installing it in a Sugar on a Stick Virtual Machine, but I ran out of space on the apparently small disc overlay that was provided. I'll try will a larger disc VM.
*: I have never tried installing it on a VM but space does get tight even on the real hardware, I find though that if there is no alternate OS version on the XO you get around 500MB of free space (or perhaps about 100 to 200MB less than that with a full install of all activities) one possible solution is to install it on an SD flash card by making /opt a symlink to /media/cardidhere/opt before unpacking. this can also have the benefit of freeing about 100MB of space because you could use an ext3 filesystem on the SD card and not have to work around the writable mmap issue on JFFS2 by having a 100MB file containing an ext3 filesystem that is loopback mounted to /opt/tn/news/spool
* Your general plans look interesting and good, but it would be better to discuss them with more experienced people than me. We can start on Thursday night. I hope you will post an announcement and code in a repository soon, as I think it will attract attention from more and unexpected angles offering more ideas to chew on.
*:: Thanks for all your efforts! --Fred
*: The repository thing is a bit difficult as 99% of the system is other peoples software and about 1% or less of it is simply glue code written by me to script it. I might want to do a bit more polishing up of the system and pay a bit more detail to how I package it before I start having others work on it. but I will enable access to the wiki at ___.___.___ and I will eventually have a build process for the system, at which point I might either use a free repository or just house it on my web server.
*: In either case, I really am looking forward to tomorrow if you bring in the XO that you put TN on and starst to run it at some point during the demonstration you will receive a lot of posts to the network news system which will propagate to all 4 laptops (or more as the case may be if Jeff has installed it) and all 4 laptops will have the post that you added to the tn.general group on your node. Plus any other posts anyone decides to add on any of the machines in the room.
*:also others without the software installed can easily just browse to the IP of any of the laptops running on the mesh and contribute/read postings, play with the wiki etc. and also download a copy of the software over the mesh from any of the machines running the software. This last bit actually saved my butt once because I didnt realize updating to version 802 would wipe out my custom installed software (including everything in /opt/tn!) I had updated 2 of the 3 test laptops and then found out that my software was gone. but thankfully there was one left that did not get updated yet and I simply restored the software over the mesh from the remaining box. as long as one machine still exists with tn installed it can be recovered.