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Oversight Board/2009/Meeting Log-2009-09-25 (view source)
Revision as of 09:33, 25 September 2009
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:'''<walterbender>''' ok, then let's get started.
:'''<walterbender>''' ok, then let's get started.
:'''<walterbender>''' #start-meeting
:'''<walterbender>''' #start-meeting
* sdziallas looks around and waves
:'''<cjb>''' (It's 6am local time for me; if we could get the vote out of the way first that'd be helpful, since I might have trouble staying awake. ;-)
:'''<cjb>''' (It's 6am local time for me; if we could get the vote out of the way first that'd be helpful, since I might have trouble staying awake. ;-)
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb, do you have a list of volunteers?
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb, do you have a list of volunteers?
:'''<walterbender>''' so any final comments before we vote on the members of the decision panel?
:'''<walterbender>''' so any final comments before we vote on the members of the decision panel?
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor?
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor?
* walterbender is in favor
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:dfarning:^
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:dfarning:^
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain
:'''<tomeu>''' what sdziallas thinks about it?
:'''<tomeu>''' what sdziallas thinks about it?
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:if there's one question that you want to make sure gets answered, maybe we should get it in here
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:if there's one question that you want to make sure gets answered, maybe we should get it in here
* sdziallas looks up. more being specific than cjb said? well, there have been three questions being but up on the wiki page, if I recall correctly.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' FYI Abhishek Indoria also volunteered for the DP, for what it's worth his name was missed above.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' FYI Abhishek Indoria also volunteered for the DP, for what it's worth his name was missed above.
:'''<walterbender>''' sdziallas:and more questions were raised in the discussion
:'''<walterbender>''' sdziallas:and more questions were raised in the discussion
:'''<sdziallas>''' walterbender:I think "SL strategic plan" for it - if that's what its called - should be a topic for the maintainer, too. since this actually affects his decisions.
:'''<sdziallas>''' walterbender:I think "SL strategic plan" for it - if that's what its called - should be a topic for the maintainer, too. since this actually affects his decisions.
:'''<cjb>''' so a proposed mandate based on that question could be "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, including an answer to the question of 'Should "Sugar on a Stick" be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:'''<cjb>''' so a proposed mandate based on that question could be "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, including an answer to the question of 'Should "Sugar on a Stick" be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:maybe a different word than avoid? because one potential solution could be to qualify it rather than avoid it
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:maybe a different word than avoid? because one potential solution could be to qualify it rather than avoid it
:'''<lfaraone>''' cjb:oh, and Sean just volunteered.
:'''<lfaraone>''' cjb:oh, and Sean just volunteered.
:'''<cjb>''' got it.
:'''<cjb>''' got it.
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:so we have an obligation to protect the mark...
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:so we have an obligation to protect the mark...
* mtd sees the use of "Sugar on a Stick" squarely in scope, since...well, becqause of what walterbender just said.
:'''<walterbender>''' the DP should be aware of all of this... Karen at SFLA can help clarify
:'''<walterbender>''' the DP should be aware of all of this... Karen at SFLA can help clarify
:'''<cjb>''' ok. I don't think this needs to go in the mandate, but I agree that we should let them know.
:'''<cjb>''' ok. I don't think this needs to go in the mandate, but I agree that we should let them know.
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:OK, but if they recommend something that is contradictory to the law, we'll have to reject their proposal.
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:OK, but if they recommend something that is contradictory to the law, we'll have to reject their proposal.
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:so perhaps we should vote on whether the other questions on that page should make it in
:'''<cjb>''' sdziallas:so perhaps we should vote on whether the other questions on that page should make it in
:'''<mtd>''' cjb:perhaps noting that they are not not in scope would be enough? :)
:'''<mtd>''' cjb:perhaps noting that they are not not in scope would be enough? :)
:'''<sdziallas_>''' sorry folks, I just got disconnected :/
:'''<sdziallas_>''' sorry folks, I just got disconnected :/
:'''<cjb>''' mtd:it's enough for me, but I think sdziallas_ would like them to be a MUST instead of a MAY
:'''<cjb>''' mtd:it's enough for me, but I think sdziallas_ would like them to be a MUST instead of a MAY
:'''<tomeu>''' sdziallas:I will paste the logs
:'''<tomeu>''' sdziallas:I will paste the logs
:'''<cjb>''' yeah
:'''<cjb>''' yeah
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:we could decide to throw out their work and try again :P
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb:we could decide to throw out their work and try again :P
:'''<cjb>''' okay, so I think we're getting somewhere.
:'''<cjb>''' okay, so I think we're getting somewhere.
:'''<cjb>''' Here's another shot at the mandate:
:'''<cjb>''' Here's another shot at the mandate:
:'''<cjb>''' "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:'''<cjb>''' "Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:'''<cjb>''' *
:'''<cjb>''' *
:'''<cjb>''' yes
:'''<cjb>''' yes
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor?
:'''<walterbender>''' all in favor?
* walterbender yes
* cjb yes
:'''<walterbender>''' all opposed?
:'''<walterbender>''' all opposed?
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:^
:'''<cjb>''' tomeu:^
* tomeu is in favor
:'''<walterbender>''' all abstain?
:'''<walterbender>''' all abstain?
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain
:'''<dfarning>''' abstain
:'''<walterbender>''' and 3 absent :(
:'''<walterbender>''' and 3 absent :(
:'''<walterbender>''' whew. got that done... back to coding :)
:'''<walterbender>''' whew. got that done... back to coding :)
:'''<walterbender>''' actually, there are a few other topics.
:'''<walterbender>''' actually, there are a few other topics.
:'''<tomeu>''' the elections will fix the absents ;)
:'''<tomeu>''' the elections will fix the absents ;)
:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:yes, but ASAP
:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:yes, but ASAP
:'''<tomeu>''' heh
:'''<tomeu>''' heh
:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:I had one, but there wasn't a link from the candidates page--just added the link
:'''<walterbender>''' SeanDaly:I had one, but there wasn't a link from the candidates page--just added the link
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok will do that later today
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok will do that later today
:'''<bemasc>''' oh well, I guess I'm too late.
:'''<bemasc>''' oh well, I guess I'm too late.
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:I wish you had chimed in earlier
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:I wish you had chimed in earlier
* sdziallas has to run, thanks everybody.
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:maybe you can send a note to slobs and the panel explaining why
:'''<walterbender>''' bemasc:maybe you can send a note to slobs and the panel explaining why
:'''<sdziallas>''' bemasc:oh? heh.
:'''<sdziallas>''' bemasc:oh? heh.
:'''<walterbender>''' Caroline and I submitted a grant to the Wal-Mart foundation--out reach to Massachusetts teachers
:'''<walterbender>''' Caroline and I submitted a grant to the Wal-Mart foundation--out reach to Massachusetts teachers
:'''<caroline>''' the calendar is mostly empty for me
:'''<caroline>''' the calendar is mostly empty for me
* sdziallas is out now, talk to you all later :)
:'''<caroline>''' One of our interns submitted a grant to the "Do Something" contest.
:'''<caroline>''' One of our interns submitted a grant to the "Do Something" contest.
:'''<walterbender>''' I am working on a grant to the NSF that is due in two weeks re Sugar and creativity
:'''<walterbender>''' I am working on a grant to the NSF that is due in two weeks re Sugar and creativity
:'''<tomeu>''' nice, let's see how it goes
:'''<tomeu>''' nice, let's see how it goes
:'''<walterbender>''' also, I am working with a group of Babson students who are preparing some marketing material for us... Sean, I'd like to introduce them to you.
:'''<walterbender>''' also, I am working with a group of Babson students who are preparing some marketing material for us... Sean, I'd like to introduce them to you.
* walterbender bemoans the fact that there is so little time to code
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:We have 14 candidates. Ballot will be sent out by dfarning on 2009-10-01 via Selectricity to all members with an email on file.
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:We have 14 candidates. Ballot will be sent out by dfarning on 2009-10-01 via Selectricity to all members with an email on file.
:'''<walterbender>''' Bernie will be teaching my seminar with me next week. my students want to learn Python
:'''<walterbender>''' Bernie will be teaching my seminar with me next week. my students want to learn Python
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:why wait until 10/1?
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:why wait until 10/1?
* tomeu needs to go out, will read backlog later
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:Because it allows for any last minute changes. We announced the election date two days ago, it seemed useful to give notice.
:'''<lfaraone>''' walterbender:Because it allows for any last minute changes. We announced the election date two days ago, it seemed useful to give notice.
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok for Babson and ChristianV has found us a professor to speak with in Paris
:'''<SeanDaly>''' walterbender:ok for Babson and ChristianV has found us a professor to speak with in Paris
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:OK.
:'''<walterbender>''' lfaraone:OK.
* walterbender has to run in a minute too
:'''<walterbender>''' can we end the meeting now and continue with discussion over coffee?
:'''<walterbender>''' can we end the meeting now and continue with discussion over coffee?
:'''<walterbender>''' thanks for participating everyone.
:'''<walterbender>''' thanks for participating everyone.
:'''<walterbender>''' my apologies to bemasc for not sending the reminder
:'''<walterbender>''' my apologies to bemasc for not sending the reminder
:'''<walterbender>''' hi befana
:'''<walterbender>''' hi befana
:'''<walterbender>''' we are just finishing up
:'''<walterbender>''' we are just finishing up
:'''<befana>''' walterbender:hi
:'''<befana>''' walterbender:hi
:'''<walterbender>''' (I don't think the logger was working, so I will cut and paste)
:'''<walterbender>''' (I don't think the logger was working, so I will cut and paste)